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branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Chokeslam posted:

I cant beleive I've never read Vinge before this thread, being a big fan of the genre. Thanks heaps for bringing him up, I just finished Fire (great read) and am starting Deepness.

You have any other reccomendations beyond all the usual suspects already mentioned here?
his ex wife, joan d vinge is pretty great too. the snowqueen series & her short story collections are worth picking up.

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branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

WarLocke posted:

And to tiptoe back into dangerous waters, the Prince Roger series (Weber & Ringo) is another good one. It's almost entirely planet-based, though. And this was early Ringo before he started adding sex and rape to everything.

the covers are awesome.
blonde haired guy in sleek camo riding a dinosaur? check
hot chick in revealing camo? check
guy in futuristic silver amour? check
stupidly large firearms? you knows it.

the version i have goes so far as to cover half the book jacket in silver 'foil' & raise author's names so i can find it in the dark.

not bad if you like excuses for pitched battles, evolving tactics always based around one (new) trick & obvious character progressions. the evil empire is a green oriented socialist empire btw.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

WarLocke posted:

I guess I just have lovely taste in books. :ohdear:
I liked the empire of man series too, it was just fairly obvious the each segment was a set up to the next pitched battle using a different tactic based on utilising whatever the local economic speciality was.

I own about 2500 sci fi novels, i have no basis for intellectual snobbery.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Miss-Bomarc posted:

I like them, although it gets a bit repetitive sometimes to read about the awesomest soldiers in the universe being awesomely more awesome than everyone else. It's non-political, in the sense that it's taken as given that any politician is a total sniveling weasely bastard and the Slammers are the only people who can do anything at all.

Anything like gordon r dickson's dorsai (childe cycle)? I always loved those.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009
It might be worth noting that the whitehaven threesome thing is lifted from the life of nelson & lady hamilton, one of the main inspirations for hornblower.
Historical precedent doesn't make webber's take on it any less irritating to me.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009
Not to forget that hornblower's partial inspiration admiral lord nelson was a famous leg over merchant who lived openly with his mistress despite his wife's disapproval - actually in a manner not at all unlike harrington's marriage in the later books

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Velius posted:


Vinge was explicitly calling back to the old days of BBS postings and usenet. Which itself ties in with the overarching concept of the Zones of Space; that is, the universe he made has fundamental limitations in terms of technological potential depending on geography. Without the Zones, Vinge believes that space-faring civilizations can't possibly be rendered in a fashion conceivable to us, which is what the Transcendant Powers represent.

Not to forget the tines personality groupings being based on systems of small computer networks.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Chairman Capone posted:

I used to give Baen a lot of credit for their willingness to put both old and new titles online for free. But on the other hand, most of their free stuff is poo poo like this. Also the covers to their books are, without a single exception, absolutely terrible.



I have a different edition with raised silver & gold foiling on the names/title & on all the metallic objects. It's why i bought the book. It's the book equivalent of this...

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

TjyvTompa posted:

I just started reading A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge and...I don't understand poo poo. I've read the first 60 pages and so far I don't understand anything, some kind of wolf people? Does it get more explained later? It just seems like I missed something.

It helps if you know a little about network topography, but only in way knowing a bit about 17th century banking & the blood lines of europe during the reformation helps when reading stephenson.
Which is to say i always feel smug reading these things & then let down when that's a smartest thing i do in a week.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Rockefeller posted:

Sorry if I missed it, but does anyone know of some space operas set in our solar system? I can't get into made up space settings for some reason. Asimov's Lucky Starr was a fun silly read cause they were tootin around our planets.

Kim stanley robinson's mars trilogy, bruce sterling's schismatrix plus, john barnes' century next door series.
Ben bova wrote a series called 'the grand tour' based on the colonisation of the solar system. It's probably the most space opera of the ones i mentioned but i'm not a huge fan of the series. Space opera is usually not confined to a singular solar system.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Chairman Capone posted:

I was really sad to hear that Harry Harrison died. I thought he had a really unique voice, not to mention take on the genre. As much as I liked the Stainless Steel Rat and Bill the Galactic Hero, my favorite of his will always be Star Smashers of the Galaxy Rangers. What an incredibly brilliant and bizarre sendup of pulp scifi.

The Eden series was pretty great high concept alterna history and I really enjoyee the Hammer and Cross series, one of the few done well norse mythology books. His older pulp stuff like the Transatlantic tunnel or Deathworld or To The Stars! were alway readable and free of the weird 70s sex stuff that showed up in the work of many of his contemporaries

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Hedrigall posted:

This is real nerdy, too nerdy for the music subforum, but does anyone know of some awesome music to listen to while reading futuristic sci-fi books and/or thinking up stuff for things I may want to write myself? I want music that sounds like I am in the future :B

Here's some futuristic-sounding stuff that I really like already:
Faunts - Lights Are Always On https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bShslKmOkfY
Miike Snow - In Search Of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt7oAWzNSiA
Solar Fields - Cobalt 2.5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCGqqPaR6LY
Delphic - Acolyte https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6lzgY57s38

Daft Punk's Tron soundtrack is also in this category.

Immunity by Rupert Hine is a pretty awesome album of futuristic synth pop

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Groke posted:

Really? I found it was an incredible blend of pseudo-Norse D&D mythology (priests of particular gods all lined up with their different holy symbols and whatnot) with impossibly modern ways of thought among the good guys (20th century rationalist atheism WITH sexual liberation and equal rights for the women) on one hand, and "all monotheism is completely stupid and evil and Christianity especially so" on the other. And I AM a rationalist atheist who has played a lot of D&D and favours sexual liberation and equal rights and doesn't much care for monotheism so you'd think I'd be right there in the choir being preached to, but Harrison was just laying it on much too thick. I've read and liked a lot of Harrison, mind you, and even this series would have been quite enjoyable if I could have ignored the stuff I just complained about, but meh.

Hey, I'm a tolerant, agnostic Australian ... I just enjoyed the story for what it was. FWIW I thought it wasn't it wasn't monotheism or Christianity under attack but the Catholic Church, I don't think many people would defend the dark ages church for spreading tolerance and free thought.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Hughlander posted:

To be fair, the same could be said about David Weber only there are two archetypes, author insert and strawman adversary.

Also SPACE CATS

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

coyo7e posted:

Zero G cat poo poo sounds great, can't wait.

It's been awhile but I remember psychic space cats and a Lord Nelson/Lady Hamilton/Hamilton style love triangle but no toilets. Future neo-regency space has passed beyond the toilet

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

tonberrytoby posted:

I just read this. It was very good. Defiantly inspired by Banks.
Sadly the ending was pretty average, didn't fill me with confidence that the author can keep up with herself for the sequel.

I really liked it but would rather that was it. Ambiguity is a better outcome than a dead-horse flogged for another three to eight books.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Darth Walrus posted:

I enjoyed Germline. Here's my post on it:

I really liked Germline.

About the same time I read the Union series by Phillip Richards. Very gritty future infantry warfare written by a serving UK soldier.

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branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

ArchangeI posted:

Reminder that Tom Kratman believes that the right answer to an alien invasion of people-eating monsters is to revive literal SS-war criminals because they are "motivated to fight" unlike those pinko liberals these days who would just roll over.


not to be too nitpicky, but Weltenbrand is not the author, its the title (worlds aflame is the subtitle and is the literal translation of the Cool German Name). And yes, Red Storm Rising was what I was going for. Glad you liked it.



thanks for the effort, just bought a copy

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