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THX has been useless for years too, certifying cheapo Dell computers and Logitech speakers. This whole thing is hilarious. More comments here but go back to the beginning of the thread if you want to read more from the naysayers.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Seriously, why are these people so loving obtuse and simply don't want to understand binary encoding systems and transmission? Because they're coming from a world where dumbass audiophile tweaks were accepted because of the "mystery" of analog audio. The people involved are either trying to sell/promote useless poo poo or they want to be lied to about it because the very thought that a 50 cent monoprice cable is just as good is orthogonal to their entire way of thinking.
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flyboi posted:Ah, the know-nothing angry response to "audiophiles" that anything over $20 is wasted money. You should have posted the GoatKCD.
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I wouldn't trust my valuable system to a mere $5000 worth of voodoo http://www.electronichouse.com/slideshow/products/1827/371
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May 3, 2011 21:28
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Opensourcepirate posted:Blue Jeans Cable is my favorite source for premium cables at reasonable rates. They also have some very in depth and interesting articles on what makes a quality cable and why HDMI is a terribly designed standard. $38 is not "reasonable" for a six foot RCA cable.
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May 4, 2011 00:15
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Needle tracking in zero gravity requires too much force and I don't want to burn up my 180 gram records.
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Oct 17, 2011 19:57
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timb posted:Just read it with a laser.
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Oct 18, 2011 20:33
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danbanana posted:more casualties of the audio-wars. will the death ever cease? how much blood must we spill!? That gives me an idea, has anyone ever explored the sonic properties of human blood? 
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If getting better equipment has taught me anything about music it's that a lot of stuff was recorded/mixed really badly.
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Aug 1, 2012 02:04
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Audioholics did a review of the Pioneer Andrew Jones speakers and they only listed "con" in the summary is quote:Lacks high-end feel & pride of ownership factor
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Feb 27, 2013 19:49
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Ron Burgundy posted:In my opinion, in many ways Bose and Apple Computer are quite similar. They both started with great products but now just design equipment that is manufactured overseas for a massive mark up. The build quality is acceptable, but with a little know-how you could find something better for the price. This isn't a good analogy because Apple stuff runs different software than their competitors so what you get cheaper isn't comparable in any way except a spec sheet. They do get some sales from hype but you can't argue that they offer the same experience as cheaper competitors. Plus stuff like the 10" iPad is price competitive. KozmoNaut posted:Here's a link someone posted in AI, it's a glowing review of the Bose 901. Let's play "spot the bullshit": quote:So what exactly happened when introducing the Blackbody? Like I said and wrote many times: if I don't hear the difference to some extent instantly, then I become very skeptical about it. True, there is always some time needed to adjust to new things. Nonetheless, throughout the years I learned that there is at least some significant change right up front, otherwise, there's nothing there worth mentioning. qirex fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Apr 11, 2013 |
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Khablam posted:Herein lies the problem with the audiophile community - you could literally write complete nonsense based on nothing but compounded nonsense linked to pseudoscience, and it would legitimately be the same as everything they claim works. I enjoy the fact that even though it's been around for a decade there's people who can't tell that Machina Dynamica is a piss take [a piss take who will send you a jar of air or a ziplock of pebbles if you are dumb enough to buy them].
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May 31, 2013 18:51
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Supposedly The Chemical Brothers' entire first album was recorded off microphones picking up the music played back through vintage guitar amps. Nowadays there's a plug-in for that but I always thought that was hilarious [if true].
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Jul 18, 2013 00:02
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Ethanfr0me posted:Is the high end audio industry growing with rampant increases in wealth inequality or was it hit hard by the recession? I have a friend who is interviewing with a botique gear distributor and I can't decide whether to tell him its a silly industry or to take those suckers all the way to the bank.
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I got two Play 1s for my bedroom and they're great. Sonos stuff is not cheap but the setup is miles simpler than any comparable product I've used [I had three generations of Squeezeboxes]. It's the first actual easy streaming system I've ever used. The Connect is overpriced given that a $200 Play 1 has all the same stuff and a speaker but they know that people who need that functionality will pay more. in fact, sometimes people will distrust things if they're too cheap, Slim Devices made a $2000 "audiophile" Squeezebox and it actually sold OK despite the fact that the $300 already one had bit-perfect output.
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Mar 25, 2014 20:13
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cremnob posted:post the audio sperg reactions to apple buying beats itt I don't see why there would be, both brands are considered mass market junk by audiophiles.
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May 9, 2014 20:56
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Fun fact: Apple originally had to license "macintosh" from McIntosh but they bought the trademark in the '90s. I don't think that's too far out of the realm of possibility, but B&W seems like a better fit for Apple. A lot of high-end brands are owned by random holding companies right now, Naim/Focal just got sold:quote:F&N's management team, led by CEO Christophe Sicaud, invested alongside the GP consortium. Naxicap has acquired a majority stake in the company.
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May 9, 2014 22:06
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Spotify is a giant hole that their investors keep throwing money into [over $200 million to date], my understanding is that Pandora is the only streaming service that's even close to profitable and they're one more license fee bump away from insolvency.
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May 10, 2014 16:21
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longview posted:Audiophile mockery be damned, cheap RCA and TRS cables can gently caress right off. The thing is that professional-quality cables cost like $20 and not $17,000. Your average home theater owner is going to unplug and re-plug what, maybe once a year?
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May 29, 2014 20:29
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I've been using a mac mini as a music server for years, I can't believe I never thought to try it with a $3000 katana power cable.
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Atmos looks sweet but it seems like a half step to me since it just adds "sound objects" to the existing "flat" surround format. A true [IMO] next-generation system would be 100% sound objects and adapt itself to your setup. As it is for home atmos unless you got lucky with your previous purchases it's not really going to match up sonically anyway, especially those upward-firing "bounce" speakers. That said if I was building a system from scratch and had a dedicated room I'd probably do it but I think most people would do better just buying better amps, speakers and/or subs.
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Ethanfr0me posted:Anyone else working the Venetian at CES this year? Day 5 and I'm about ready to kill myself. If someone asks me to play a record with "lots of transience" one more time I think I'm gonna crack. this is my favorite audiophile CES product quote:
for 48 grand you could get a serious system from even some of the companies we make fun of in this thread hell you could get a system with a streaming interface, amp and a record player for that much and still be way in the realm of esoterica
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Jan 9, 2015 23:07
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in case you were wondering even the people making the pono don't think high resolution music sounds any better but they're happy to make an ancient probably going deaf old man's vision come to fruition http://nypost.com/2015/01/11/do-consumers-really-care-about-digital-quality/ there's of course argument like this highly impartial take on things: quote:“Of course hi-res files are better,” says David Chesky, a New York-based composer and digital recording pioneer who is also CEO of HDTracks, an online distributor of hi-res music. “You run into problems when you downsample (a hi-res file to CD-quality) … it gets grungier and closed in. It sounds like your 14-foot ceiling came down to 8 feet.”.
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Khablam posted:(it's a £9k squeezebox with added audiophile adjectives, that runs on batteries) I admit if I was building a fancy system I'd want something like this though just to look nicer than a sonos play. 
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I bought my sonos form a hifi shop and when I was paying for it I casually said "too bad the play is so expensive given that this speaker has all the same stuff in it and a speaker" and the guy ringing me up didn't get it and looked at me like I was crazy.
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The problem to me with this high resolution trend is that it's just going to convince even more people that anyone recommending anything better than spotify played via bluetooth on a Beats Pill is a crazy person, and this time it's the audiophiles playing reductio ad absurdum by intentionally claiming all "compressed" music [even lossless] is compromised. People come over to my apartment and they like my [modest] sound system and when I tell them they could get 95% of the way there for a few hundred dollars they look interested until I mention that I'm not talking about a soundbar or some other single box solution. I think people are so burned out on technology that anything that isn't molded plastic with a "go" button just gets dismissed as lame dad gear. At least Sonos seems to have some interest in their stuff sounding good [if not particularly "accurate"] and the experience of setting it up and using it is fantastic. I feel like that by making all of these absurd claims these audio companies are just focusing on the dad gear end of the market because they know they'll actually buy stuff and it's pushing out other people who could get into good audio but just look at the whole scene and go "ugh."
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jhcain posted:Hmm. I guess this will be amusing: That's probably a nice sounding system but the fact that you're both concerned with having a super nice DAC and using tube amps seems odd to me.
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Just a note, the Squeezebox Touch actually has a pretty good DAC
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Jan 30, 2015 19:20
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It's hidden somewhere in the wayback machine but there's some guys that took an official Dolby digital analyzer [like a $300k piece of equipment] and did a bunch of digital coax cable tests including using a wire hanger and they all passed 100%. It's like jitter, network dropouts and other things audiophiles like to spend tens of thousands of dollars to solve, if there's something wrong you'll notice right away.
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Feb 9, 2015 03:13
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GWBBQ posted:and coating the cones with asphalt to absorb "unwanted energy build up." BRB filing a patent for a concrete-driver speaker. [sensitivity 0.4dB at 1 meter}
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Feb 17, 2015 22:10
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The BeoLab 19 is the coolest looking overpriced subwoofer.
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Audiophile reviewers always must listen to some kind of female vocalist [jazz or Latin, take your pick], at least one dadrock band and one rock band that someone that old would consider "modern" like Coldplay, Radiohead or Cake. You'd think if they actually were trying to get a good comparison they'd listen to the same "test suite" every time but then they wouldn't be able to show off their cool musical taste. My favorite speaker shopping song is the long version of "The Box" by Orbital, I've listened to it a million times and it has pretty much every kind of sound in it.
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pricing and functionality wise this isn't that terrible of a product but one part of it jumped out at me:quote:Designer McGowan was adamant the cold, non-interactive nature of remote controls would not be part of Sprout. Instead, a precision human interface was chosen for the front panel: a stepped tactile volume control and input selector mechanism provide both feedback and a connection to the device itself.
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Beaten to knobfeel  e: There's definitely something to these companies trying to make digital gear feel "analog-y," since the kinds of people to whom an $800 t-amp looks affordable really, really like analog stuff. qirex fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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AudioQuest has a new solution to USB ghosts that can haunt your cables and interfere with your bitsquote:it is expanding the range with the creation of the AudioQuest Jitterbug - an advanced USB line and data conditioner 
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taqueso posted:Looks to be only passive components, so it won't be replacing any values. Well yeah, my question is how is this not just blatantly false advertising compared to the usual audiophile hand-waving. Like the thing can't actually eliminate any errors and honestly it's probably more likely to introduce them.
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High Resolution Audio: Everything you need to knowquote:These sites use compressed file formats with relatively and low bitrates, such as 256kbps AAC files on iTunes and 320kbps MP3 streams on Spotify. quote:The more bits there are meanwhile, the more accurately the signal can be measured in the first place, so 16-bit to 24-bit can see a noticeable leap in quality. quote:With more information to play with, high-resolution audio tends to boast greater detail and texture, bringing listeners closer to the original performance. quote:As with all the products we review, if you can't see or hear a difference, then save your money... Some gold in the comments too: quote:Nyquist was not a Musician. quote:What a lot of tecnical bla, bla,bla from arrogant prigs who are telling me what I can hear and what not........My only reference are my ears, and believe it or not, I hear the difference! Also their top recommended streamer [$3000] looks like an '80s car stereo had a baby with a Creative Nomad 
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BANME.sh posted:Being skeptical of things you don't understand is fine. What is stupid is when you remain skeptical despite large amounts of evidence in front of you. There's research findings that suggest that being shown evidence to the contrary tends to galvanize strongly held beliefs.
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My new subwoofer enclosure is almost complete, yesss
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