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Jagtpanther posted:I'm sure I remember Sable vs. Jacqueline that ended in boobs, my youtube-fu fails me though. It was one of the UK ppvs. Jacqueline was on someone's shoulders and Sable ripped her top off from behind.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2009 21:20 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 21:48 |
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I have fond memories of most of the cruiserweight title matches and angles. It's so hard for me to watch Rey Mysterio now considering what he was like when I was in my teens watching him in WCW. His matches aren't necessarily bad now but they're nothing like what he was doing back then.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2009 20:11 |
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LightsGameraAction posted:And compared compared to a lot of other wrestlers (especially Austin***) whose entire repertoire is/was mainly *punchpunchpunch* *throw into ropes, clothesline* *punchpunchpunch* *throw into corner, kickkickkick* *throw into ropes, punchpunchpunch* *signature move, other signature move, pin* he's an amazingly technical wrestler. That sort of move set totally fit into the Stone Cold Steve Austin character. Austin wrestling a technical style after becoming Stone Cold would not have fit the brawling, beer-drinking redneck character. Also I think his neck injury really limited him.
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2010 23:33 |
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I'm not a fan of stealing the opponent's finisher. A wrestler's finisher is supposed to be his move that he does better than everyone else, like Jake Roberts and the DDT. Anyone can do it, but no one can do it as well as him. At least that's how I looked at as a kid. I could really get behind some super special finishers that only get used once every year or two because they're kayfabe too dangerous and could only be used in no-DQ type of matches. Isn't the Burning Hammer something like that?
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2010 09:05 |
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I cannot fathom a boring Tajiri match. Tajiri shits charisma.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2010 01:52 |
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I have to think that anyone calling The Miz awful in current WWE must not be watching much of current WWE. He's one of the least bland and boring parts of the entire company and always seems to mix up his promos and his act a bit each time. He's not nearly as bad in the ring as people keep saying he is and his recent match with John Morrison showed that he works well when he's wrestling a guy that can actually go and not a 60 year old 'WWE Legend'. The guy has gone through an incredible transformation since his arrival in WWE and we probably wont see an improvement of that magnitude again for a long time. Plus the dude is just starting out as a main event player and can only get better. To suport what you're saying, hasn't the Miz outright said in an interview he had to tone down his style in the ring to keep people from cheering anything athletic or impressive that he can do?
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2011 23:37 |
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RBX posted:Ah ok I understand. It must be more of a go away heat because his character did get tired. When you compared it to Vicky heat I instantly understood because no one likes her. I love seeing Vickie interact with the crowd. I can't be the only person who loves the deafening boos she can generate.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2011 21:52 |
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Skinty McEdger posted:Sandman claims he has no balance when he's sober. He used to work on the scaffolding on building sites while drunk. Maybe that's why Bender looked like the Sandman in that Tales of Interest episode of Futurama. The Sandman is the prototype for bending units, and he can be arrested for being under his legal limit.
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2011 03:22 |
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LightsGameraAction posted:1. Earlier in the year there were a few times when Lawler/Cole/whoever would discuss on commentary the need to win the match so you "go home with the winner's purse". Is this really still how they run things in WWE despite how heavily scripted it's become? Or was this just trying to lay some kayfabe for the people at home? That has always been a kayfabe thing from back when wrestling was treated more like a real sport so the wrestlers had incentive to win and care about each match.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2012 20:45 |
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Wrong thread
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2012 22:12 |
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With a lot of words you've said WWE doesn't have to be perfect to be entertaining, which makes todays lows even more baffling.
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# ¿ May 27, 2012 20:38 |
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Perigryn posted:The point system to earn title shots and such helps. It also helped back when commentators like Dusty Rhodes sold it more as a sport where a lot of the matches were just athletic contests in which someone was going for a winner's purse while trying to advance towards a title shot.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2012 16:31 |
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If Eddie Guerrero were alive, could Vickie get a crowd to boo him?
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2012 03:35 |
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Atticus Finch posted:In this situation, did Eddie Guerrero die and then come back to life? Sure why not, make it a fair competition.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2012 03:42 |
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Glitterbomber posted:Well, I mean, when he was alive most of his career was getting people to boo him, so I guess having his wife involved would help? Did I just imagine the phase where people cheered him for his cheating? Am I misplacing that and it wasn't close to the end of his career?
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2012 04:45 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Jericho doing the 1004 holds thing predates Saturn doing the mop gimmick by a few years. However, Saturn and Jericho are buds, so it wouldn't surprise me if that's where Saturn got the idea. Did Saturn ever call it that himself? I only remember Jericho on commentary giving it that name.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2012 19:20 |
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ChaosSmurf posted:I honestly think Lawler makes Cole worse, he seems a lot better with Miz on Main Event or JBL whenever that happens. BUT I never experienced the truly awful Cole days so I've never properly hated him. Think Josh Matthews, JR, JBL are all better though. You're right. Lawler is so complacent and apathetic that no one sounds any good with him anymore. If they have to keep Lawler around, someone needs to ask him what it would take to make him invested in the job again. Otherwise get rid of him and use someone who is at least better at pretending to care.
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2012 22:25 |
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Wade Barrett doesn't need a submission finisher unless they drop the bareknuckle brawler gimmick. He should probably use more strikes so his current finisher makes sense.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2012 18:37 |
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Hey don't poo poo on Mark Henry. His title run proved he deserves to be in the main event.
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2012 06:15 |
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I like Wade and Alberto but claiming they could have just as easily done the Hall of Pain is just...
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2012 16:50 |
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She's not even that fat anymore. Make fun of her teeth or something.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2013 21:25 |
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GB888 posted:I think this proves that Professional Wrestling is the greatest martial art of all time. Sakuraba proved that in 2000.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2013 19:40 |
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Zack Ryder taking forever to change a tire while Eve acted hysterical was the dumbest thing I can think of in recent memory.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2013 21:19 |
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VogeGandire posted:Dumbest segment: Anything involving Hornswoggle. Counterpoint: Any time Finlay used Hornswoggle as a weapon.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2013 21:38 |
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Snitsky angles were generally pretty terrible. Considering how often they rename guys, why didn't they rename Snitsky? It's a pretty terrible name.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2013 21:45 |
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Gonz posted:I'm sure Punk wants to be able to function as a human being when he's in his 50's and 60's and 70's and so on and so forth, rather than be confined to a wheelchair and have to do DDP Yoga just so he can wipe his rear end without developing brain bubbles. I know what you're saying here, but you don't have to be a broken human being for DDP Yoga to improve your life. Everyone capable should do DDP Yoga. You'll feel pretty good after awhile.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2013 08:42 |
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You have to admit watching CM Punk deal with DDP's cheerfulness would be entertaining.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2013 08:47 |
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STAC Goat posted:Wrestling fans with young daughters? I don't know but if anything I'd say WWE doesn't market to girls and young women as much as they should. It would probably never be a huge money making demographic for WWE but I would think some clever Diva branding and merchandising could win over a new set of young fans and be pretty inexpensive. It seems kinda weird to me that WWE has such a problem with marketing to women considering all the barely-dressed muscular men they put on TV for several hours a week.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2013 03:21 |
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MassRayPer posted:I like John Cena. I'd rather see a happy winner than someone telling me how he is going to make wrestling fun again. I'd rather not have wrestling tell me that wrestling is bad and how this wrestling guy will fix it with things I don't really want to see. I latched onto a lot of what Punk was saying because I knew wrestling was fairly lovely before anyone on the show told me it was lovely. I've been a much more regular Raw viewer since Punk really got himself into the main event and I still think a lot of his criticisms ring true. In hindsight I was silly to think WWE was actually going to change with Punk in the main event, but it was exciting to have someone with actual personality at the top. Before ECW was taken off the air, that was the only weekly wrestling I was watching every week from about 2007 onward. WWE really wasn't fun and I could not maintain interest in the John Cena show. Happy winners are mostly lame unless they're like Mick Foley-types who clearly struggled to earn their victories or Kurt Angle/Daniel Bryan types who take it to a comedic extreme.
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2013 15:27 |
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89 posted:Somebody's gonna have to help me out here but long ago during Samoa Joe's ROH title run, there was a tag match. It was during the Aries/Joe feud. I think Aries/Joe got into a fight before or after it. Anyways, I remember feeling like that tag match was just a perfect introduction to the whole ROH thing. Back when I would make VHS compilations, I was going to put it on a compilation that was geared as an introduction into pro wrestling for the person who isn't a pro wrestling fan yet. Just...can't remember which tag match it was other than it had Joe in it.. Cena vs. Umaga Last Man Standing at Royal Rumble 2007 was awesome. For all the poo poo we can say about Cena as a character, he deserves another mention besides Money in the Bank 2011.
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2013 20:39 |
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Gonz posted:A WWE featuring nothing but heels would be a fascinating thing to watch. At least then WWE wouldn't be telling us who to cheer for.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2013 09:03 |
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Halloween Jack posted:I heard that this "Sandman" guy was supposed to be hot poo poo, then I saw him. I saw just enough to make me want Sandman on screen but not wrestling. Remember that battle royal that made us think for a moment that Sandman would be the Raw GM?
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2013 17:09 |
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Zack_Gochuck posted:Didn't they do this with Austin, and he used to jet around on an ATV? I picture Sandman doing the same thing and hitting walls constantly. You know, to stop himself and interject into the backstage stuff.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2013 17:33 |
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Halloween Jack posted:They could have him crash through a wall wearing a Stormtrooper helmet and flip the ATV. He would no-sell it just like hitting himself with the beer cans.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2013 17:37 |
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VogeGandire posted:I want to see Sandman joust someone on an ATV with the cane. This is better than Sandman hitting things with an ATV. Hit them with a cane from the ATV.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2013 17:57 |
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Spikeguy posted:What was the first thing that got you into watching wrestling on a weekly basis? I saw a series of with Ric Flair and Randy Savage in WCW around 1994 or 95. I also remember a lot of Arn Anderson promos as the TV champion. I watched wrestling before then, but that's what I remember getting me hooked on WCW, and Saturday Night and later Nitro are what got me watching wrestling every week. Getting hooked on those 3 really colored my perception of what good wrestling was and made it hard to watch WWF until much, much later. Disregard how lovely the rest of WCW was around that time period. I can't remember any of it except those 3. TenaciousJ fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Jul 31, 2013 |
# ¿ Jul 31, 2013 20:04 |
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Writer Cath posted:Which cliches do you guys hate? Champions having non-title matches - You're a champion. Every match should count if anyone is still pretending like wrestling is a sport. Non-title matches are only acceptable for heels when an authority figure is protecting them. Backstage brawls where attacks that normally drop people make them walk 50 feet down - The most egregious example I can remember was a horribly one-sided beat down from Kane on Zack Ryder. Zack spends what feels like 30 minutes getting in no offense but can't be bothered to run away. He just plods along to the next area where Kane can hit him with something or slam him into something. This kind of thing was also why a lot of the hardcore title matches without Crash Holly were boring. They usually just look like walking tours of the arena.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2014 08:59 |
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sticklefifer posted:I wonder if she'll be quietly future-endeavored if Superfly goes to prison soon. WWE tends to distance itself from murderers. She's related to the Rock and he takes pictures with her on Twitter. I'm surprised she's not Divas champion.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2014 15:53 |
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Does Del Rio count?
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2014 06:39 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 21:48 |
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edotherocket posted:Given the type of crowds that attend Hall of Fame ceremonies, what are the chances that there are some chants about Bruiser Brody during Carlos Colon's induction? I'm hoping Luke Harper inducts him, or the crowd chants for Harper while he stands up slightly confused.
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2014 12:38 |