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Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Perestroika posted:

This link (and the rest of conservapedia) always gives me a 403, am I the only one?
Not by a long shot. They ban any IP address range thought to be inhabited primarily by undesirables. Universities, ISPs, even entire countries.


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Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Guilty Spork posted:

But if there's one thing people never seem to get tired of, it's being wrong about gays.
Many anti-gay bigots I've spoken to quite literally believed gay people would rape them if given the opportunity. Thinking about it from this perspective you can see why they would imagine the situation being difficult to cope with.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

The concept of a worker-owned factory is deeply repulsive to me, as an AMERICAN.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Sarion posted:

Keshik - If you want to keep going with that conversation, demand that he explain how he would have built that business without roads, an educated workforce, or the internet.
Someone wrote a witty paragraph on this subject a while back. Could someone repost it?

It went something like "This morning I awoke at I got out of bed and ate cereal inspected by the FDA, drove on DOT maintained roads to my workplace where my safety is ensured by OSHA, [...] and posted on the Internet, created by DARPA, about how the government is nothing but a nuisance and should just get out of the drat way"

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Ana Lucia Cortez posted:

Those laws seem a lot more sensible. Why does God hate womenfolk so much? :sigh:
God is the original Men's Rights Activist.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Oh what's the point of it all, he lamented through the global packet-switched internetwork assisted by interface technologies designed to aid scientific research. This thing will never be of any use!

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

If the invisible hand won't jerk me off something must be holding it back. :colbert:

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

I don't have a lot of hate in me, which is why I'm wishing for an event 130 times worse than the holocaust.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007


Homosexual Behaviour in Animals

quote:

6 Some selected species and groups
6.1 Birds
6.1.1 Black swans
6.1.2 Gulls
6.1.3 Ibises
6.1.4 Mallards
6.1.5 Penguins
6.1.6 Vultures
6.1.7 Pigeons
6.2 Mammals
6.2.1 Amazon Dolphin
6.2.2 American Bison
6.2.3 Bonobo and other apes
6.2.4 Bottlenose dolphins
6.2.5 Elephants
6.2.6 Giraffes
6.2.7 Monkeys
6.2.8 Japanese macaque
6.2.9 Lions
6.2.10 Polecat
6.2.11 Sheep
6.2.12 Spotted Hyena
6.3 Others
6.3.1 Lizards
6.3.2 Insects
6.3.2.1 Dragonflies
6.3.2.2 Fruit flies
6.3.2.3 Bed bugs

Giraffes posted:

Male giraffes have been observed to engage in remarkably high frequencies of homosexual behavior. After aggressive "necking", it is common for two male giraffes to caress and court each other, leading up to mounting and climax. Such interactions between males have been found to be more frequent than heterosexual coupling. In one study, up to 94% of observed mounting incidents took place between two males. The proportion of same sex activities varied between 30 and 75%, and at any given time one in twenty males were engaged in non-combative necking behavior with another male. Only 1% of same-sex mounting incidents occurred between females.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Me in Reverse posted:

Is there a specific fallacy that covers "They did thing X, so I am completely justified in doing (unrelated/irrelevant/significantly worse) thing Y"?
"Tu qouque" is the one. Literally meaning "you too". :v:

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Sir Rolo posted:

Saturday, a good day for LL101:


Homosexuals
Haha holy crap. You're intolerant because you won't tolerate my intolerance! :byodood:

Insert tone_argument.jpg here.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

The shape of those blurs [the bokeh] is determined by the aperture of the camera. You can actually change it to other shapes:




Love orbs! :3:

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Halloween Jack posted:

THE MELTING POINT OF STEEL.
This is my favourite one. The sheer level of ignorance and intellectual laziness it takes to believe this is truly incredible.

Maybe blacksmiths are in the conspiracy too... This sure goes back a long way! :tinfoil:

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

This one is pretty funny. I mean come on, that's not even true in videogames let alone reality.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

"natural toothpaste" :heysexy:

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Haha, "misandrist". That explains everything.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

"Having your freedom and privacy taken away isn't a punishment." - A loving Retard

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

quote:

It was a gun, after all.

It was built, designed to glory in destruction, when it was considered appropriate. It found, as it was rightly and properly supposed to, an awful beauty in both the weaponry of war and the violence and devastation which that weaponry was capable of inflicting, and yet it knew that attractiveness stemmed from a kind of insecurity, a sort of childishness.

It could see that--by some criteria--a gun, just by the perfectly articulated purity of its purpose, was the most beautiful single artifact America was capable of producing, and at the same time understand the paucity of moral vision such a judgment implied.

To fully appreciate the beauty of the weapon was to admit to a kind of shortsightedness close to blindness, to confess to a sort of stupidity. The weapon was not itself; nothing was solely itself. The weapon, like anything else, could only finally be judged by the effect it had on others, by the consequences it produced in some outside context, by its place in the rest of the universe.

By this measure the love, or just the appreciation, of weapons was a kind of tragedy.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

No, the planes were merely delivery vehicles for super-terrorists who then stamped up and down in a huge tantrum until the buildings came down.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Forceholy posted:

This. Never underestimate a shift manager's petty display of power. I remember when I used to work at a pizza place while going to Community College, I used to have classes scheduled during my days off work. That didn't stop several managers from calling me in the middle of class trying to call me into work. I remember being threatened with termination if I didn't leave class that second. I've been written up for not answering my phone during class. I've had class schedules handed back to me with my manager telling me that if I didn't change it to THEIR specifications, I would be fired. Most retail/food service jobs like to treat their workers as if they're on call at all times, as if their employees live and die for McDonalds, Wal-Mart, ETC. The retail thread in BFC is full of stories like these.
That is some jaw-dropping bullshit right there. Also sounds like a great way to get stabbed.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I want to live in a country where the CEO of the electric company can selectively shut off power to potential competitors and the campaign offices of politicians he disagrees with. They can buy their own power company if they don't like it.
Enron came close enough, intentionally causing energy shortages and blackouts in California in 2000. As usual, it was to artificially increase prices trading poo poo.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

I hear they're using a new method to teach subtraction in schools. It's really bad wow whoa!! Look what our children are learning!

pre:
Question:
 100000000000000000
- 99999999999999999
-------------------
= ?

Solution:
(10 + 0) -  9      = 1 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
(10 + 0) - (9 + 1) = 0 (borrowed 10)
      1  - (0 + 1) = 0
------------------------------
                   = 1
Why does there need to be so many steps?! It's obvious! And how can I help my kid with this?! Instead of this insane 'borrowing' - an obvious introduction to socialism - why can't we stick with the easy old way of summing up distances between nice round numbers?

pre:
Question:
 100000000000000000
- 99999999999999999
-------------------
= ?

Solution:
99999999999999999 + 1 = 100000000000000000
------------------------------------------
                  = 1

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

The problem with this racist joke is the logistics: just. not. feasible!

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

They dream of being the abuser, having been abused all their lives. That's the American Dream.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

You mean the 1950s.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

My parents abused me and I'm proud of it (So others should suffer too)

The abused kick downward and children are easy targets.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Boywhiz88 posted:

Just to at least show that it's OK to speak out even as an officer.
Yeah, good luck with that. Some choice excerpts for those who haven't heard of Adrian Schoolcraft:

quote:

[...] Schoolcraft recorded conversations at the 81st Precinct police station, responsible for the Bedford–Stuyvesant neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York City. Schoolcraft amassed a set of tapes which, in his view, demonstrated corruption and abuse. The tapes include conversations related to the issues of arrest quotas and investigations. Schoolcraft says an overemphasis on arrests leads to wrongful arrests and bad police work.

Schoolcraft reports being harassed, particularly in 2009, after he began to voice his concerns within the precinct. [The] Department directed him toward psychological treatment rather than taking his concerns seriously. When he discussed issues like understaffing and stop-and-frisk with NYPD psychologist Catherine Lamstein, she directed him to surrender his weapons.

In October 2009, Schoolcraft disclosed his allegations to NYPD investigators in a meeting that he understood was to be confidential. [...] On 27 October Schoolcraft was placed under "forced monitoring".

By the end of his 31 October shift, Schoolcraft felt sick and intimidated. With permission from Huffman, he left the station an hour early, went home, took some Nyquil, and fell asleep. At 6 PM, his father called with a warning message. He looked out the window and saw police massing in the street. He stayed on the phone. After 9 PM, he heard people moving upstairs. The officers obtained a key to the apartment after telling the landlord that Schoolcraft was suicidal.

Schoolcraft turned on two tape recorders before the officers entered, and the subsequent interaction was recorded. About twelve high-ranking officers were present. [...] Marino eventually ordered, "Just take him. I can't f------ stand him anymore." The police found and confiscated one tape recorder, but the other one kept rolling.

Schoolcraft was involuntarily committed to a psychiatric ward in Jamaica Hospital Medical Center. He was handcuffed tightly to a bed and prevented from using a telephone, by orders of police who were present.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Cognac McCarthy posted:

article with fine tuning argument
That article would be a real beauty for a critical thinking class. The level of weaseling is incredible.

If some physical constants were different we wouldn't be here. True. But it's just a tautology dressed in scientific language. Consider the same logic on a smaller scale: me. If my parents weren't fertile I wouldn't exist. Considering I do, though, I'm not terribly surprised a necessary precondition for my existence was met. There's no other possible outcome I could experience.

The puddle of rainwater thought to itself: "Wow, this pothole fits me precisely. It must have been made to have me in it!"

Another rhetorical trick in the article is equivocating low probability with zero probability - the difference between possible and impossible is thrown away as irrelevant. True, as you multiply the probabilities down by each confounding factor you'll get a pretty small number, but it will never be zero. And that's all it takes: improbable things happen. Something being unlikely doesn't mean it won't happen, it means given enough chances it will happen. It's a staggeringly ancient and massive universe, and we only had to happen once.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

When people try to empathise with others in extreme circumstances, and fail, their stand-in always seems to be an omniscient emotionless robot.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Two phenazepam addicts having a friendly discussion, that's all.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

CowHammer posted:

I don't know why she even gives a poo poo.
The usual reason for everything in this thread: the belief positions you as superior while at the same time telling you there's no need to change or learn anything. You can stay stupid and you can still be better!

What's really sad is that it takes minutes to learn how these things work. It's so easy a little kid can do it.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Jurgan posted:

test results determine funding
What a sound policy. Allocate resources where they're least needed.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

30 second observations
Looks like we've got an optimist here.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Xarthor posted:

Does anyone have a link to a neutral/legal source laying this out? This seems correct to me, but if I present this argument to my dad I guarantee it's going to be 20-straight minutes of "OH HOW CONVENIENT YOU'VE THOUGHT OF LIIIBERALLLLLLLL WAY TO WEASEL YOUR WAY OUT OF IT. DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF OF THIS OTHER THAN YOUR LIBBBBERALLLL FRIENDS OVER AT MSNBC AND HUFFINGTON POST!?!?!?!?!"
Have you considered dropping him off at a garbage dump, saying "its u" then leaving him to die

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

When people hate on the poor in the US, I get the distinct impression that it's hating on blacks and the white poor just happen to be acceptable collateral damage.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Reading Americans commenting on maternity leave is comical and saddening. Continuing the human species just isn't as important as MY imaginary BUSINESS! :byodood:

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Map of countries by maternity leave:


There was a time when this would have surprised me.

edit: timg

Spatial fucked around with this message at 19:41 on May 12, 2015

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

I got it from here.

More likely they just have the same sources.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

idiot posted:

It's not that people are against maternity leave, they just think the government should stay out of it. If your employer wants to freely give you maternity leave, then they are free to do it. A really good employer would do that to keep top talent. Why should I pick up the tab for someone's vacation?
Shbobdb addresses his wife: "Sorry honey, I don't think the government *puts penny in swear jar* should require you be given time off just to give birth and mind our child during the most delicate period of its life. If you had a better employer, or you were better at your job, maybe you'd be better off. What? I'm not against it! It's just, why should I pay for it?!"

His mom slapped him, his sister punched him and his penis was never touched by his wife again.

The guy lives a tough life so let's try not to judge him, even when he compares an essential foundational function of society and the existence of our species to getting a hangover.

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Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

If you can be wrong, then I can be wrong!! :grin:

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