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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Defenestration posted:

There's definitely a period of tyrannical Michelle feeding your kid slop at school lunch. One of her being a fatty, ugly bitch (that picture of her going up the stairs From being compared to the two other wives). An ongoing "disrespects the office" thing whenever she did anything vaguely multicultural or focused on black people. Or spent money.

I didn't see the jungle fever thing you're talking about. Only she's ugly / manly/actually a man

I've always wondered if people are only satisfied with the First lady being a stereotypical Stepford Wife. I think its great Michelle Obama is taking childhood obesity seriously and the people opposed to it purely by association is downright embarrassing.

I suppose a good Republican way to tackle obesity would be to associate it with Communism lol.

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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Bushiz posted:

Nancy Reagan ran roughshod over the entire executive branch and they loved her.

They hate michelle because she's a democrat, and black.

Is there any Republican First Lady that Republicans disliked? Would Ben Carson's wife have gotten the same poo poo that Michelle got in some bizarro world where Ben Carson is president?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Keep in mind technology might be warping people's perceptions here too. Millenials have access to a lot of technology that Baby Boomers didn't; this might give some Boomers the false notion that they succeeded under a technological handicap, and/or Millenials are goldbricking thanks to technology that makes their lives even easier.

Not to get all :corsair: on the thread or anything, but when I was looking for jobs back in the day, I was still looking at classified sections of newspapers. Having the current iteration of the internet, e-mail, etc would have made all these things much easier. There are a lot of modern conveniences people benefit from now that many people didn't have access to decades previous.

And don't forget about all the bias that goes into people making value judgements of generations or evaluating hard work. I'm sure the people that whine about how lazy some Millenials are probably aren't looking at the burnouts of their own generation too closely; a smartass Millenial could probably point to the fact that most homeless people you see on the street are likely to be older folks hosed over by Reganomics, the closing of mental health facilities, etc.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Cracker King posted:

I complete agree. I graduated college right as the "great recession" hit and the biggest challenge my parents had was understanding that looking for jobs is different. My parents were so confused since when they were young they simply "went to the employment office, filled out a form, and walked away with a job interview." The concept of sending out (in my case 200 emails - it was 2008) and only have 3 responses (2 rejections - 1 interview) was complete bananas to my Baby Boomer parents.


The one thing I took away from the great recession and the people that clawed their way into employment is to get a job and be competitive in this job market you have to be more dynamic, flexible, proactive and determined than anybody up to that point. Much like other goons joking about when Millennials are old, I predict the fact that they had to deal with such a changing dynamic is gonna mean they'll just end up being super judgmental about whatever hardship young people are dealing with in 2050 jobwise.

Ironically, the job I have now I got back in 2007 actually did require you to go directly to HR and fill out of a job application there. However, I would have no idea of the 25ish steps it took me to get this job had I not been fortunate enough to have a landlord at the time that worked there and literally coached me through every step. I have to admit it wasn't solely some kind of gumption on my part, it was also being in the right place at the right time. I think a lot of Millenials will hopefully be pragmatic enough to seize on similar opportunities if they can put their own humility aside in terms of job field, expectations, etc.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Most of the people that didn't get hired at my job was because of :350: . Sorry hippies, all those squares you always made fun of are making $30 an hour at your expense!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Let's be glad most sadist parents aren't creative enough to use punishment methods that don't leave marks, like hot sauce or electricity.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Popular Thug Drink posted:

i can only see hot sauce being a punishment in super churchy midwest families that only eat cheesy potatoes and boiled cabbage or something because my kid prefers sriracha to dip her chicken nuggets in

Kids have a much more sensitive sense of taste. And using something like hot sauce as a punishment gives it an extremely negative association.

The mom that adopted the two Russian kids did this. One was always acting out because he had attachment disorder and she would punish him with "hot tongue". I think it was a Dr. Phil episode.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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LunarShadow posted:

In one of my education classes on child and adolescent development we were told by Alabama CPS that anything other than an open hand on the buttocks and doesn't leave marks is considered abuse. Realize that i am preaching to the choir, just thought it would interest people to know.

I can confirm this is consistent with California standards as well.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Zephyrine posted:

I feel that painting Hillary as some hardass with a body count higher than The Terminator is probably the wrong direction to go if you want to dissuade the gun tooting conservatives :v:

Yeah I'm always :psyduck: about this. Conservatives are enamored by this 'tough guy' persona but then portray Hillary Clinton as this bullheaded assassin master.

Sorta like how in Bush II's regime it was all about 'Respecting the Commander in Chief' but these same people think its completely reasonable to compare a President they don't like to literally the Antichrist himself.

I often wondered if they ever decided to be more consistent with their wingnuttery if they'd actually get more middle of the road voters to register R in elections. At least you'd know what to expect from them.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Zephyrine posted:

She will whack something like 15 political opponents just for the presidency. Can you imagine what she will do to Americans enemies? Iran and North Korea will sit down, eyes forward and not rock the boat unless they want to taste the wrath of the Hillary. Kim Jong will be calling her "ma'am"

Probably install a trapdoor in the Oval Office leading to a tank full of sharks too.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Can't married people file jointly in Sweden like in the US? When my wife was in grad school I worked a ton of overtime to compensate for being the only income earner at the time. We filed jointly, and because her income was zero and mine ~90,000 it was as though each of us only made 45,000 that year. Combined with a tax credit for being in school we ended up getting a huge tax return (enough to pay off both our cars).

Why would he need to hire his wife in the first place?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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xergm posted:

He's not saying he literally split the income. He's saying the tax brackets for married couples are such that it was as though they were 2 single filers each making half of his total income. It's an exaggeration at best, since it's usually not that good of a reduction in taxes, but it does help.

In most cases, there are 2 earners for a joint return, but with only one earner, you end up with much more of your income in a lower bracket than you would have as a single filer. Look at VitalSigns' post with the tax brackets. A much larger chunk of that $90K is getting taxed at 15% instead of 25%.
You do understand how progressive tax brackets work, right?

Edit:
Also, have you looked at a Federal 1040? There's no "yours" and "spouse" income lines. There's just one line for wages. That's likely what he meant.

We had gone through a tax preparer. Maybe it's not as generous as I assumed but it certainly felt like it;even factoring in the tax credit wife got for school and splitting our return in half, I got way more money back that year compared to when I'd file single; when saving up to pay for our wedding i was also working beaucoup overtime as well but got a fraction of as much money back on my return.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Zephyrine posted:

Filing jointly was abolished in Sweden in 1971. It pressured women into being stay at home partners to keep their husbands taxes down.

If you make between 13.000 and 40.000 euros a year the tax is 29%
between 40k and 50k the tax is 32%
From 50k to 67k the tax is 52%

So you do everything in your power to not make more than 50k.

Wow I had no idea. Shows how much I know about Swedish Tax Law.

Not being able to file jointly has got to hurt couples that make a wide difference in income though right? What happens when one spouse is working and the other is in school? That scenario was the whole benefit to be filing jointly with my wife (in the US obviously)

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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ErIog posted:

This stuff always gets me down a bit because I feel like people should be allowed to make mistakes like that without having their lives ruined. The problem, though, is that there's no mechanism in place to pull that white woman aside and let her know, "yo this poo poo is not even remotely okay like holy gently caress." So the only mechanism that can serve that function is worldwide public shaming via the internet.

I just remember being a loving idiot libertarian in college who loved playing devil's advocate. Now I'm a socialist. It would have sucked if my life were ruined by dumb bullshit I said back then. I also legitimately thought at the time that libertarianism would help people and lead to good results and stopped believing it when I was shown.. recorded human history.

I think this is why people double down on such clueless tone deaf poo poo like this. They know they're hosed and apologizing can't put the social media genie back in the bottle so they go full retard hoping their detractors end up wrong in the long run /attract sympathetic people to their side.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Popular Thug Drink posted:

it's really flat out terrifying that we live in a world where people can take a picture of you and upload it to the internet without your permission when you say/do something dumb and then there's a non-zero chance complete strangers will find you and make your life hell because of a snap judgement they made about how awful you are

if you're thinking "yeah well we need to punish racists" this cuts both ways, remember harambe mom

This scares me too. We're all potentially at the whim of the court of public opinion. People are also very reluctant to change their mind about something later if the initial image /rumor triggers a strong emotional reaction.

This photo will still be on the Internet when that girl applies for college, when she has a job interview, hell a decade later it could be dredged up.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Dirk the Average posted:

They'll have a hard time getting a bond for bail.

:doink:

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Ashcans posted:

Well if no one is willing to pay for the investigation, then the market has demonstrated that it has no value. What would happen is that when someone dies, the people that assign value to the outcome of an investigation would pay for one to happen. That might be family or friends who derive utility from the information, or it might be that people in the community feel that too much crime is going unaddressed and are willing to pay to resolve a crime that doesn't directly affect them in an effort to curtail future crimes. See, this is actually optimal, because it also allows the public to directly indicate to the police what crimes they consider important by only funding the ones that they are concerned about.

If only there was a way to streamline the process of procurement, and funding to determine the value and priority. Perhaps try to average out the expenses that all these agencies can take it upon themselves to pay, and scale the surcharge according to the value potential of the citizen! :downs:

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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the_steve posted:

Hey now, you can't demonize someone for dumb mistakes they made when they were younger.

:science: Except if they are black with a presumed childhood of thuggery!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

thats like a legit cool painting. its like a mix of buddha and jesus. id buy that.


wish i could swing a traffic cone that hard to shatter windows.


jesus gently caress. these people have issues.


all of these are horrifying. its either weird hosed up bigoted bullshit, or clickbait "thinkpieces" for right wingers.

I can no longer tell the ones that are played straight and the edgy ironic ones played for laffs.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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gfsincere posted:

I guess that would make sense to a racists mind that it's easier to shoot everyone than stop shooting black people.

Point is, living in this "bubble" is a white privilege that black children are not afforded. I was exposed to the harsh realities of the world and poo poo black people have and continue to go through at a very young age. I was exposed to white children my age not wanting to play with me because "black people are dangerous".

White parents specifically infect their children's minds with the same disease of racism they have. After generations and generations, in the age of information being at ones fingertips, one can only assume white people actually WANT things this way.

White people don't like the idea they'd have to apologize for poo poo they, or other white people have done. Because these particular white people are hateful, petty and spiteful they probably fear owning up to racism means the shoe is going to be on the other foot and black people are going to use every opportunity to rub it in their faces.

They don't want to change because they obviously don't want their bubble shattered. Their way of thinking is so simplistic and basic, and having to abandon it means using actual critical thinking and empathy for people that aren't them.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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My mom a threatened to disown me if I didn't vote for Dukakis.

I was only eight wtf!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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the_steve posted:

I have to admit, I am really curious how the world actually looks through the eyes of an EPORW fan. Not the memes and clickbait articles, but, the actual dystopian hellscape they're convinced they live in.
Like, just put on a pair of glasses and see the world through their eyes.

Think about when 9/11 happened, how people felt scared, worried, confused, and devastated. They are basically in that state of mind all the time; their way of life is constantly in peril, everybody either wants to kill them, rob them, or change them and they are convinced they are the only sane one in the asylum.

Pretty much everything they value is under attack in some way (no longer PC, too dangerous, too regulated, etc) which gives it some kind of implicit value. Their patriotism, guns and Christianity are revered because to them they are rare precious baubles rapidly becoming extinct. And that's before you get into the Zero Sum Game Just World Fallacy :tinfoil: attitude part.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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I'm baffled Trump would receive military endorsements in the first place. What brass would want him as commander in chief?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Donald Trump bit a million babies but Wikileaks has such a hard on for burying Hillary Clinton the public will never get to see the truth.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Why can't these people get worked up over civil forfeiture laws instead of just going :supaburn: over taxes themselves?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Who What Now posted:

Breasts I can understand, and legs too because those attach to the rear end, but who's creepin' on a lady's arms?

It's not the location, it's simply the cumulative square inches of uncovered skin probably.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Pro-lifers could get a lot more traction if they went in the other direction toward reducing/eliminating abortion, you know, providing more comprehensive sex ed, better programs to help single mothers, increased funding to the public school system, stuff like that. I'm sure abortions would go down in number over time.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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I can remember being a kid in California and having my dad get full service gas. It was a bit more per gallon but they'd pump gas for you and check your fluid levels. This was back in the :corsair: days of carbon paper transfers for credit card transactions.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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coyo7e posted:

I am shocked - SHOCKED to learn that Harrison Ford pic was a photoshop and not simply a badly-aligned printing press

Here's a quick BechdelLitmus test - how many women can you name (private or public figures are acceptable,) who're Libertarians? Ever wonder why?

Spoiler: It doesn't have to do with minimum wage, but it does have to do with how someone who's already in a position of entitlement feels that it's totally alright to leave everyone to fend for themselves because everyman

Take it a step further - how many women of color are Libertarians?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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ChristopherRobin posted:

I found this though I'm not sure it's the same gallery even though it's by the same person.

http://imgur.com/gallery/dsvlK

Checking her Facebook, she did a lot of other neat costumes too, creatively integrating her hijab into them. Not surprisingly, a lot of comic book characters wear hoods/headgear or have goofy hair anyway. Not sure if she did Elsa but I've seen an Elsa with a yellow hijab for the 'hair' and it was pretty neat.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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I think a lot of this boomer stuff is just projection on their part. Maybe they had lovely childhoods where they were physically and mentally abused by their parents and peers. Some of them won't want to accept this is lovely and so this existence becomes their baseline and they are hostile to the idea that anyone might think differently. Combine this with the fact that humans tend to hold onto positive memories and ignore or forget painful ones.

Keep in mind helicopter parents were often Boomers too, for the same reasons. It's not unusual for people to either double down on their lovely experiences or try to do the exact opposite.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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I told everyone at work happy holidays to see if anyone tried to correct me and say merry Christmas and it turns out nobody gives a poo poo outside of Facebook rants.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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jivjov posted:

We actually had a Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays incident at my workplace, leading to a customer complaint to management that our place of business needed to be respecting the original meaning of Christmas (she, of course, meant Jesus poo poo, and not the pagan celebration that Christians stole)

I'm guessing she forgot the first day of Hannukah fell on Christmas this year :jewish:

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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I think a lot of the complaints about younger generations boil down to people that are simply younger and less experienced. People can come off as entitled when they are still adapting to new expectations. Meanwhile older people that have grown out of it like to assume they sprang forth from Zeus's head already all-knowing.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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If auto mechanics were so underpaid that having to spend their own money on some tools was an unreasonable expense, they'd be complaining about it.

I'm pretty sure with union diesel mechanic jobs, they are provided with tools on site, then also get an annual tool allowance to spend on anything personally specific that they would need.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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I wonder what these kind of women do when they get divorced and have an oops baby when they are 38 with no job skills and steadily battered by glass ceilings and ageism? Bootstraps their way to a secret abortion in Mexico?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

They missed off porn, sex work, smoking and drugs. A shameful meme.


Is it because they're terrible at statistics, or because the media makes a huge loving deal about every minor terror attack (from the right group) and not about every time someone dies in their bathroom (~33x more likely than dying in a terror attack)?

Aren't these things that fundamentalist Christians hate anyway? Are they just scared some other religion is going to steal their Thunder?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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One angle I've been leaning toward with some Facebook dipshits is to use the :byodood: "Will someone think of the children?!" rhetoric against them.

:byodood: "We need to take away welfare from people that are rioting" (inferring that the only people that protest/riot are people with nothing better to do)
:v: "But what will happen to all the children that become homeless and starving when their parents lose section 8 housing assistance and foodstamps? Are we going to let them die over this?"

:byodood: "Drug tests for anyone on welfare, and dont let them get off the hook with free abortions!"
:v: "Wow those poor crack babies that aren't going to have any support system whatsoever because their parents aren't in a position to do anything to care for them!"

:byodood: "Teachers need to be armed to the teeth in case of a school shooting!"
:v: "So you're willing to let your own kid be a martyr for this cause when some noodle armed leftist preschool teacher with horrible aim shoots your child by mistake?"

I've found it usually stops their argument dead in their tracks. They'll get increasingly vague about who is going to take care of the massive amount of orphans, "Someone will take care of them!" "Uh, like taxpayers such as yourself?" "NO, somebody else!"

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

I remember when they threatened to boycott Target. I also remember when a few weeks later I had already seen everyone who threatened to boycott to me while I was their cashier shopping at Target again.

You should've asked them how your boycott was going.

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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

Do feminists even want to 'lecture boys about growing up to be gentlemen'?

Most feminist theory I've read runs the gamut from 'boys being told to conform to a narrow set of social expectations based on their gender is harmful to them and to women' to 'gender should be abolished'.

I'm not sure what philosophy says that boys should grow up constrained to fanciful depictions of the upper-middle class of times past, but I'm sure it isn't feminism. Sounds more like the 'everything was better when we had a king and you knew your place' nRx stuff.

I see feminism in general to be indirectly beneficial to men by moving away from arbitrary gender roles. But since chauvinists see every abusive thing they do to their sons as making them stronger in the long run, anything contrary to that abuse must by their logic be negative.

Also if there's one thing a sexist man truly hates its to have a woman talk to him with the same authority he always speaks to women with.

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