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He's been publicly crazy since the reunion in the mid-late 2000s. Since the early days of twitter he was tweeting about chem trails and poo poo like that. He actually cooled off for a while and touched base with reality (or so I thought), up until just recently.
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I think it's one of two things: 1. He's not a particularly intelligent person, but he means well. Because throughout the interview, he babbles on about listening to people and considering their viewpoint. 2. Or, he is an intelligent person, but just not very well informed and has been too poisoned to see that he's misinformed. I really think it's more #1 than #2. Like, it's hard to listen to him talk because he's so unfocused and there doesn't seem to be a point that he's trying to make. I think he means well, he just doesn't understand what he's talking about and has taken up with the wrong people.
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I always considered him that nerdy socially awkward kid that was gifted with an undeniable sense of song craft. It's high school and there's the one dude with the super awesome house and usually has bomb rear end parties. You want to be his friend because holy hell it's a GREAT time, but talking to him for more than ten minutes on something other than a mutual interest in Black Sabbath and you realize he's super goony and has some bizarre ideas, to the point where you don't really want to know him but god drat some of those parties were mythical weren't they?
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Cemetry Gator posted:I think it's one of two things:  hatelull posted:I always considered him that nerdy socially awkward kid that was gifted with an undeniable sense of song craft. It's high school and there's the one dude with the super awesome house and usually has bomb rear end parties. You want to be his friend because holy hell it's a GREAT time, but talking to him for more than ten minutes on something other than a mutual interest in Black Sabbath and you realize he's super goony and has some bizarre ideas, to the point where you don't really want to know him but god drat some of those parties were mythical weren't they? Cemetry Gator posted:...sings okay. Not
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:gently caress, I wish this was remastered: Thanks a lot. Inspired me to re-visit and fix my old Machina "pop" mix: Stand Inside Your Love I Of The Mourning Sacred And Profane, The Try, Try, Try Here's To The Atom Bomb [Judas 0 Version] Slow Dawn Let Me Give The World To You Innosence Raindrops + Sunshowers Real Love Imploding Voice, The Age Of Innocence Vanity If There Is A God [Piano] It's my, "Billy decided to make a lot of pop songs after Adore" tracklist. I really like Machina outside of the ugly and meandering tracks like Heavy Metal Machine and Glass And The Ghost Children, but that's also how I felt about Mellon Collie. As far as ugly is concerned, "Silverfuck" is the only mean Smashing Pumpkins track I like because it seems sincere instead of cartoon-y. Too bad the whole "art through adversity" thing is out the window with the current Pumpkins lineup or I'm sure the albums post-breakup would be good too.
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May 14, 2016 05:23
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Slow Dawn is so loving good.
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funk_mata posted:Thanks a lot. Inspired me to re-visit and fix my old Machina "pop" mix: No Go, no go.
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Also, I personally love Heavy Metal Machine and Glass and the Ghost Children and as a random guy on the internet I feel Billy should take my advice.
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syntaxfunction posted:Also, I personally love Heavy Metal Machine and Glass and the Ghost Children and as a random guy on the internet I feel Billy should take my advice. I really like that other Glass song "I'll be by the pool, playing with my guns" one.
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May 14, 2016 15:43
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Blissed and Gone is my absolute favorite post MCIS song. It is a shame it was buried on a Machina tie in disc and at the end of Rotten Apples.
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mayodreams posted:Blissed and Gone is my absolute favorite post MCIS song. It is a shame it was buried on a Machina tie in disc and at the end of Rotten Apples. I love it when its done with guitar and cannot stand it when it's the throbbing, gross sounding electronic stuff that made it onto rotten apples
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May 14, 2016 19:40
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Allen Wren posted:No Go, no go. So, does James Iha actually have a kid, or did he take some artistic liberties with the lyrics there?
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Noise Machine posted:So, does James Iha actually have a kid, or did he take some artistic liberties with the lyrics there? I have literally no idea, I admit I've never been able to parse that line and never bothered to look up the lyrics.
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May 14, 2016 22:31
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Billy is an intelligent guy but like a lot of smart people that led to intellectual laziness born of arrogance.
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May 15, 2016 02:15
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There's no way any of you is going to get me to believe that the dude from the smashing pumpkins is actually intelligent
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A human heart posted:There's no way any of you is going to get me to believe that the dude from the smashing pumpkins is actually intelligent see that's exactly what they want you to think sheeple
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A human heart posted:There's no way any of you is going to get me to believe that the dude from the smashing pumpkins is actually intelligent He has a really enormous head? Does that count for anything?
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BigFactory posted:He has a really enormous head? Does that count for anything? Well I mean being microcephalic usually means you're not too much in the IQ department, so it has to work the other way too right?
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Platypus Farm posted:Well I mean being microcephalic usually means you're not too much in the IQ department, so it has to work the other way too right? Big giant foolish toddler head=more brains.
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Corgan's politics are bewildering. It's fun to remember that this is the man who gave us "Blinking with Fists". edit: http://www.popmatters.com/review/blinking-with-fists/ Astrochicken fucked around with this message at 06:15 on May 17, 2016 |
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Billy was always a bit of an rear end in a top hat and now he's a rich liberal, once you get over the initial 'whoa' it's more like 'yep' Weird times for the rest of the band to start feeling they can stand to be around him though... baka kaba fucked around with this message at 01:19 on May 18, 2016 |
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I mean he's pro-Trump and thinks Bernie is a maniac, and he thinks social justice warriors are destroying our society. I don't know if I'd classify him as liberal at this point.
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baka kaba posted:Billy was always a bit of an rear end in a top hat and now he's a rich
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Baron von Eevl posted:I mean he's pro-Trump and thinks Bernie is a maniac, and he thinks social justice warriors are destroying our society. I don't know if I'd classify him as liberal at this point. His whole problem with 'SJWs' is that they're criticising him and other liberals, which apparently makes them worse than the KKK (whose free speech he'll grudgingly defend because he's not the target). He's left wing until it affects him, that's pretty classic liberalism. I'll let our good friend Phil Ochs step in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw I'll give you libertarianism with the whole gold hoarding thing though. Oh billy...
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baka kaba posted:His whole problem with 'SJWs' is that they're criticising him and other liberals, which apparently makes them worse than the KKK (whose free speech he'll grudgingly defend because he's not the target). He's left wing until it affects him, that's pretty classic liberalism. I'll let our good friend Phil Ochs step in He doesn't hold any liberal (in the sense of modern, democratic party liberalism, not the john stuart mill kind) views at all. He's pretty much the poster boy for the lunatic fringe right-wing neocons like Alex Jones. chemtrails, government cover-ups, monsanto being the new version of the octopus, and all that.
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May 20, 2016 17:04
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I was listening to Superwolf earlier and it reminded me that Zwan existed ahaha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLPgz9K4D20 aahahah
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Me in my single use time machine I invented: *clicks dial past kill Hitler* **clicks dial past 9/11* Ah, the date Sweeney and Pajo agreed to be in Zwan *slams button*
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May 21, 2016 06:15
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Yeah, but Mary Star of the Sea is better than anything else Billy's put out since maybe American Gothic.
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I bought the Zwan album the week it came out but I've never bought a smashing pumpkins album. I don't know if I've listened to it more than twice though.
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Yeah I thought it was pretty good too. At the time people compared it to Siamese Dream without all the doom and gloom. My phone auto capitalized Siamese Dream, thanks.
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BANME.sh posted:Yeah I thought it was pretty good too. At the time people compared it to Siamese Dream without all the doom and gloom. I don't know who the hell these people are, but goddamn, that definitely isn't a shared opinion, at least with me. I don't mean that MSotS sucks or anything, but Siamese quality?
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The weakest songs are towards the front of the album, but it's really loving good overall.
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Let's talk about his electronic solo album from 2005. I haven't listened to that since it was released. I wonder how it's aged
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BANME.sh posted:Let's talk about his electronic solo album from 2005. I haven't listened to that since it was released. I wonder how it's aged I liked this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMERrNAbzbQ I seem to remember not liking anything else. In trying to remember it YouTube also suggested this to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hYPo2py77A 
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A CRUNK BIRD posted:I was listening to Superwolf earlier and it reminded me that Zwan existed ahaha I like Zwan 
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Zwan was good. I think it's a little sad that it didn't pan out, because I really enjoyed Mary Star. Also TheCameraEye and Mina Loy from TheFutureEmbrace were good songs. The rest were meh to okay-ish.
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Muscially, Sad/Angry Billy > Happy Billy. Always and forever. EDIT: Also, while I enjoyed this song, the video does it no favours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7HheYR-vDM Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 05:10 on May 22, 2016 |
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May 22, 2016 05:02
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LordPants posted:I like Zwan There are dozens of us out there.
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Noise Machine posted:There are dozens of us out there. el sol into broken heart is maybe my favorite two song sequence of all time. I saw Zwan live 3 times when they were active and loved every single show and would rank them near the top of all the concerts I've ever seen.
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LordPants posted:I like Zwan I only liked 'chrysanthemum' does anyone have a list of the best live/bootleg pumpkins shows from the 90s? I only have a few bootleg albums and most of them aren't really noteworthy.
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