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Because I like going back and piecing these things together, The Ballad of The Outsiders and the Tag Team Championships Halloween Havoc 1996 - Outsiders win the belts off Harlem Heat Souled Out 1997 - Steiner Brothers beat the Outsiders for the belts The Next Night on Nitro - Steiners are stripped of the titles because a non-NWO ref counted the pin, Outsiders are awarded the belts Superbrawl 1997 - Lex Luger and the Giant beat the Outsiders for the belts The Next Night on Nitro - Luger/Giant are stripped of the titles because Luger was not medically cleared to compete, Outsiders are awarded the belts Spring Stampede 1997 - Kevin Nash d. Rick Steiner to retain the belts in a one-on-one match Nitro - October 17, 1997 - The Steiner Brothers d. Scott Hall and Syxx for the belts Superbrawl 1998 - The Outsiders d. The Steiners for the belts after Scott Steiner joins the NWO Slamboree 1998 - Sting & The Giant d. The Outsiders for the belts after Scott Hall turns on Kevin Nash and hits him with the belt Next Week on Nitro - The Giant turns on Sting Great American Bash 1998 - Sting d. The Giant for the tag belts. Sting offers the second tag belt to Kevin Nash, who accepts Nitro - July 20, 1998 - Scott Hall & The Giant d. Kevin Nash & Sting for the belts Halloween Havoc 1998 - Rick Steiner & Buff Bagwell d. Scott Steiner & the Giant (Scott Hall was wrestling in a separate match against Kevin Nash that night) Still at Halloween Havoc - Buff Bagwell turns on Rick Steiner, leaving one man once again in control of the tag belts The Next Night on Nitro - Rick Steiner selects... Kenny Kaos as his tag partner January 1999 - With Rick Steiner out injured (having never actually defended the belts on television that I can find), the championship is vacated, no doubt against Kenny Kaos's strong opposition February 21-December 13, 1999 - Fifteen title switches, none of them even remotely involving an Outsider so THEY AIN'T DRAWIN', BROTHER Nitro - December 13, 1999 - THE OUTSIDERS d. Bret Hart & Goldberg for the tag belts. THE CHAMPS ARE HERE December 27, 1999 - Scott Hall is sent home before the Outsiders can defend the belts  And that was the last we saw of them with their belts. For what it's worth, for that period from 1996-1999, I think I skipped over maybe three tag championship matches on PPV. They were very rarely defended.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:When exactly was Judy Bagwell a tag champ? It's also worth noting this was a completely separate angle, over a year before the Judy Bagwell on a Pole match took place.
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BAN DICKEYE posted:If that was the case, why did Ace book an entirely new and separate tag division in the Cruiser tag Titles in WCW? Or was that a Bischoff call when he was preparing to buy the company? It's certainly become even more extreme in the past decade or so, but even when WWF did have a strong tag division, it's never been as high profile as it is in a lot of other territories. So Johnny Ace might not be a hypocrite directly as much as a company line-towing yes man.
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Scirocco Griffon posted:Yes he did. Though he got suspended like half a dozen times in 1999-2001, so these may be true for two different suspensions. It was a magical time.
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Earlier this year there was an article from the Believer getting a lot of linkage from people I knew about the enduring legacy of WCW vis a vis contemporary poets and novelists and I was super duper confused until I realized they were talking about William Carlos Williams.
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Dumb question, how tall was Mike Awesome? Googling around I keep seeing him billed as 6'7" or 6'8", but I also see a bunch of pictures where he looks at most a few inches taller than guys like Raven/Crowbar/Paul Heyman. He's easily got six inches on Taz, but Taz is what, 5'8"? I wasn't playing close attention to WCW by the point Mike Awesome showed up, and he wasn't long for the WWF Invasion, but I remember him looking decidedly less monstrous once he hit the Big Two. Maybe it was just because circa 2000 WWF/WCW was overloaded with giants, but he just sort of blended into the midground of the Alliance.
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Wasn't the REAL finish to the Ms Hancock pregnancy storyline that she faked the miscarriage and she brought a bunch of 8x10s of "Perfectshawn" Stasiak out in a baby carriage?
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SuperHunBastard1690 posted:With the number of Samoans wrestlers and the more progressive view of the fan base as a whole do you think there would be widespread acceptance of a fa'afafine wrestler in the near future?
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May 25, 2014 05:28
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They test-marketed an NWO Wolfpac but pretty much everyone who tried to turn onto their back on the Wolfpac raft ended up in a bodybag.
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I'm looking through late period WCW PPVs and man, the Filthy Animals' feuds were perfect SHADES OF GRAY bullshit. They debuted feuding with Vampiro and the Insane Clown Posse, who I think were also supposed to be faces, but were playing heels. Then they started feuding with The Revolution, who were explicitly YOU PEOPLE heels. But in the middle of that they had a mini-feud with Ric Flair when they stole his wallet and in turn Flair cost them a match against the Revolution, despite Flair being a face. During the feud with Revolution came Souled Out 2000. This is the PPV that had Bret Hart (then champion) and Jeff Jarrett (Hart's partner in NWO 2000) both get injured the week before the show. So instead of Bret defending the belt against Sid and Jeff Jarrett putting Chris Benoit through a TRIPLE THREAT THEATER best of three series on the show, Benoit/Sid became the main event and a pre-show angle was shot where Revolution attacked Konnan and... Kidman was put into a series of three matches against the three members of Revolution. Except Shane Douglas was injured, so the third match Kidman had was against THE WALL. They were still faces I guess, even though they had recently beaten up Ric Flair, driven him out into the desert and left him for dead. Also Kidman had been teasing dissention and a heel turn against Konnan on and off for months while he was doing his KIDCAM which definitely wasn't GTV. Then the Filthy Animals effectively broke up for a few months so Kidman could actually turn heel and start his feud with Hulk Hogan, where Hogan put him over by beating him repeatedly and stealing his girlfriend. After that star-making feud with Hogan, the Filthy Animals reformed as lower-card heels. This is where Havoc904 came in. The next month they became lackeys for THE NEW BLOOD that was RISING for about a month before they turned face to feud with Russo's new lackeys The Natural Born Thrillers while Kidman feuded with Shane Douglas over possession of Torrie Wilson and a bottle of viagra on a pole. Then they kind of petered out, much like the promotion. I was going to say it's remarkable that they had three-four turns in their less-than-two-year existence, but it was Russo/Late WCW so it wasn't remarkable at all.
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Endorph posted:He had some bad matches and got stunnered. 1) Beats Hollywood Rock in a sloppy but crowd-pleasing match 2) Beats Chris Jericho in a match that for some reason turned into Jericho working submissions on an injured Goldberg for like ten minutes 3) Loses to HHH in an Elimination Chamber match via sledgehammer 4) Beats HHH to win the title 5) Beats HHH to retain the title 6) Loses the title to HHH 7) Goes into Royal Rumble as #30, eliminated by Kurt Angle, decides to get mad at Brock Lesnar instead 8) Beats Brock Lesnar in the trainwreck WMXX match, gets stunnered on the way out That's his entire run. Fully half of it was ultimately used to put over HHH.
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ayn rand hand job posted:Goldberg took a few months off after Slamboree in the summer for a movie. He had murdered Hall and Nash, but the title picture was a goddamn mess in '99 and it ended up being DDP beating everyone up. Souled Out: Hogan doesn't defend the title, Goldberg gets revenge on Scott Hall in a taser/ladder match Superbrawl: Hogan feuds with Flair, Nash/Hall unmask Rey Mysterio, Goldberg is in a feud with Bam Bam Bigelow for some reason Uncensored: Hogan drops the belt (and "control of WCW") to Flair, Nash beats Rey again, Goldberg is off filming Universal Soldier(?) Spring Stampede: DDP beats Flair for the belt, Goldberg gets revenge on Kevin Nash, Hogan is taken out in an injury angle Slamboree: Nash beats DDP for the belt, Piper beats Flair for "control of WCW", Goldberg wrestles Sting for some reason but the Steiners and Bret Hart interfere and I guess the NWO is gone? Great American Bash: No Goldberg, Hogan, or Hall. Nash continues to book himself as champion Bash at the Beach: See Great American Bash Road Wild: Goldberg returns to feud with Rick Steiner! Hogan returns (as a face) to retire Kevin Nash Fall Brawl: Goldberg is now feuding with DDP, Sting turns heel to take the belt off of Hogan Halloween Havoc: Hogan lays down in a worked shoot in his title rematch, Goldberg wins the belt in an impromptu match against Sting but title is vacated the next night Mayhem: Goldberg is feuding with Sid Vicious now, Bret Hart defeats Chris Benoit in a WCW title tournament, Hall came back Starrcade: Hart beats Goldberg for the title but it's vacated the next night, Nash comes back as a face, the next night NWO2000 forms with Hart/Nash/Hall/Jarrett feuding with Goldberg And then in the run-up to Souled Out 2000 it is revealed Goldberg concussed the hell out of Bret Hart so he had to re-vacate the title, Goldberg hosed up his arm, Scott Hall disappeared again, and Jeff Jarrett got a concussion too and had to vacate his US title. All of this led to the main event putting the world title on Chris Benoit, who left the company the following morning. Most remarkably, only a small portion of this was booked by Russo. But that's how Goldberg got his revenge on the NWO for the fingerpoke of doom.
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Maxwell Lord posted:That's something Death of WCW didn't go into enough detail for me on (unless the new edition adds anything.) The whole thing with the WolfPac (sic?) and all the infighting was really confusing at the time, and of course it meant that nobody in WCW really beat the nWo, they did it to themselves. Savage had a title match against Sting and botched NWO interference cost him the match. So when Hogan had a title match against Sting, Savage came down as part of the NWO scrum and hit Hogan, costing him the match. When Nash expressed sympathy for Hogan (after Hogan and Bischoff poo poo-talked not only Savage, but Hall and Syxx who were kayfabe/really fired respectively) Hogan responded by beating Nash down with a baseball match after they tagged against Piper and the Giant. So in retaliation for that, Nash came down and powerbombed Sting during Savage's next title shot, allowing Savage to win the title. Of course this is immediately where it starts to get dumb. Now the big inciting incident of the split is the next night where Hogan insists he get a shot at the title. This is two months after Hogan/Savage already main evented a PPV with a cage match, but whatever. JJ Dillon insists this match will have NO RUN-INS. It has four of them, culminating in Bret Hart attacking Kevin Nash as he tried to drag an unconscious Savage on top of Hogan. Hart then put an unconscious Hogan on top of Savage. And then yeah, it just sort of dragged on for that summer with no clear direction, Hogan was still ostensibly the top heel but he spent the summer feuding with Karl Malone and Jay Leno, then got his win back over Ultimate Warrior, then 'retired'. Then came back for the Fingerpoke of Doom which reunited the two feuding factions, minus all the people who were injured or who had wandered off. Then that version of the NWO lasted all of 3-4 months, then the NWO 2000 formed at the end of 1999. So yeah, no NWO faction ever (including WWE's) ever had a satisfactory blow-off. The Hollywood/Wolfpac split itself was booked somewhat competently, though.
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Looking at Glacier's match history is a trip down memory lane of WCW jobbers both remembered (Hardbody Harrison, High Voltage, Buddy Lee Parker) and completely unknown to me (THE GAMBLER, Mike Winner, Ace Darling). Also he had exactly one match as Buzz Stern, apparently.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I've always wondered why Jim Duggan, a guy seemingly willing to do a job for almost everybody in the later part of his career, picked THAT moment to be defiant. After that Berlyn match he wasn't used that much (the janitor angle, some health issues) but for what it's worth he didn't lose again on TV until nine months later, when he got pinned by Goldberg. Obviously six years later when he had that legends run with WWE was a different story, for a whole number of reasons.
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It's kind of amazing the string of main events that preceded Vince Russo's first stint in WCW. 1999's Pre-Russo main events: 1. Goldberg vs. Scott Hall in a Stun Gun Ladder match (no title defense, 1 run-in on main event) 2. Hollywood Hogan vs. Ric Flair (David Flair run in, turns on father, uses stun gun) 3. Hollywood Hogan vs. Ric Flair (David Flair and Arn Anderson run-in in a First Blood Steel Cage Match where the crooked ref refuses to stop the match when Flair bleeds but counts a pinfall resulting from a figure four after Flair uses a tire iron on Hogan) 4. DDP v. Sting vs. Hogan vs. Flair (DDP wins after special guest referee attacks Flair) 5. Kevin Nash v. DDP (run-in and Dusty Finish, match restarted, another run-in) 6. Kevin Nash v. Randy Savage (match ends in DQ following a run-in) 7. Randy Savage & Sid Vicious vs. Kevin Nash and Sting (world title changes in tag match) 8. Hogan vs. Nash retirement match 9. Sting vs. Hogan (three run-ins, heel turn, an unconscious man made to submit) Just for contrast, here are the WWF 1999 PPV main events, WITH Russo: 1. Vince McMahon wins the Royal Rumble with copious interference and very little time in the ring 2. Austin vs. McMahon ends when Big Show debuts and throws Austin through the cage 3. Austin vs. Rock (interference banned by Shawn Michaels and this actually works) 4. Austin vs. Rock (guest referee interferes) 5. Austin vs. Undertaker (guest referee interferes) 6. Austin vs. Vince & Shane in a ladder match (someone raises the briefcase when Austin goes for it) 7. Austin vs. Undertaker first blood (two run-ins) 8. Austin vs. Mankind vs. HHH (I guess Chyna interferes?) 9. Triple H/Rock/Mankind/Kane/Big Show/Bulldog (referee interferes) Everyone interfered all of the time in both federations, but (at least at the top) it's kind of amazing how relatively coherent the storyline on WWF's part was. Except at the end of the summer when Vince turns face again and wins the belt for a day.
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Speaking of all of the forty-somethings in the main event, does anyone recall what match in the endtimes/Millionaires Club vs New Blood maybe era where Tony spent several minutes talking about how he'd been talking to [insert hall of famer he probably hadn't talked to, Verne Gagne] and how it may look like Kidman's faster and younger and more athletic than Hulk Hogan but Vern told him that you don't truly hit your stride in wrestling until your forties or fifties, because you have the experience to go with the strength, so really Hogan is in a better position to win this than you may think, Kidman isn't old enough, plus this means that Hogan's best matches are ahead of him. It might have been Crowbar and Ric Flair or any other combination of "guy under 30" and "guy at or near 50" but it is still my favorite 'disconnect from reality' announcing moment from WCW.
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In the course of ten years or so, Leslie had two names in WWF: Eddie Boulder and Brutus Beefcake. In five years of WCW service, he wrestled as The Butcher, The Man With No Name, Zodiac, Booty Man, and the Disciple. Similarly, Ray Traylor managed to burn through The Boss, The Guardian Angel, Big Bubba (Rogers), and Ray Traylor in the course of about four years. The key to having a lot of name/gimmick changes on TV was to be an ex-WWF guy who lost his gimmick when he came over with Hulk Hogan.
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Keep your rafts, I'm still waiting for a Slapnuts Blvd sign to show up on eBay.
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Animal-Mother posted:I didn't believe you, but sure enough: http://www.wrestlecrap.com/sbt/someone-bought-this-slap-nuts-slap-nuts-slap-nuts/
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triplexpac posted:There's no getting up from the slap jack!! guess who's back, the slapjack of wrestling don't turn your back on the slapjack you might end up gettin slapjacked Was there ever a Stevie Ray/Jeff Jarrett feud in late period WCW?
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Super Dan posted:I just looked this up on wikipedia. In late WCW, Stevie Ray was doing color commentary on Thunder while Jeff Jarrett was world champion (he did feud with Booker T). Sadly, there never was a classic rivalry between slapnuts and slapjack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uODUnXf-7qc
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Pope Corky the IX posted:At least the Nitro Grill had fun with the menu items. The most you got out of WWF New York was "the People's Sundae"
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I know you really want to believe that, but you're wrong. Not only was I there a few times when it was still open, but here's the menu: The only two recipes I explicitly remember trying from it were: -Mark Henry's Sexual Chocolate Cake, which I think we probably screwed up because it turned into sludge -The Undertaker's Turkey Tetrazzini, which was incredibly off-brand but pretty decent, though I had just moved into my own place in college so my standards were probably pretty low It was way better than Mark Henry's Filth Pie though.
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The only thing I can't believe about those recaps is that Big Poppa Pump was being booked as a face.
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fart blood posted:To be fair I think Bret got injured like a week into it, and Hall was...well, Hall, so it died a quick death. 12/07/1999: Bret Hart and Goldberg beat Creative Control for the world tag titles, are challenged to a match by Hall and Nash. 12/13/1999: Hall and Nash beat Hart and Goldberg for the tag titles, continue to feud with both men to build up a world title match between Hart and Goldberg. 12/19/1999: Bret Hart wins a title match against Goldberg at Starrcade in a match where Roddy Piper is the guest referee and Piper *may* have screwed Goldberg in a remake of the Montreal Screwjob. Bret gets a bad concussion from Goldberg in this match. 12/20/1999: Bret Hart gives Goldberg a rematch, but Hall/Nash/Jarrett run in and NWO 2000 is born! They are poised to feud with Goldberg and Roddy Piper. 12/23/1999: Roddy Piper disappears. Goldberg decides to legit punch out the window of the NWO's limo, severely injures his arm, is out of action. 12/27/1999: Sid Vicious is slotted into Goldberg's feud with the NWO. Bret Hart gives Jerry Flynn a title shot and the NWO gangbeats him, leading to Tank Abbott running off the NWO. Abbott moves on. Jeff Jarrett wins the US title from Konnan after the NWO beat down all of the Filthy Animals. The Filthy Animals move on. Scott Hall no-shows, Scott Steiner swerves everyone and joins NWO2K to sub in for Hall in a tag title tournament. 1/3/2000: Terry Funk is appointed commissioner, helps David Flair and Crowbar beat Nash/Steiner for the tag belts. Bret Hart is attacked backstage by Sid Vicious. Sid Vicious is attacked by the NWO. 1/6/2000: The NWO continue their feud with Terry Funk, David Flair, Arn Anderson, and Sid Vicious. A still-not-fully-recovered from Goldberg's concussion kick Bret Hart faces Funk in a hardcore match for the world title. 1/10/2000: Terry Funk recruits Larry Zybysko and Paul Orndoff to fight the NWO. Terry Funk sets up Jeff Jarrett in a series of matches for the night, and declares the main event will be Nash vs. Hart. -- Jarrett vs. George the Animal Steele with special guest referee Chris Benoit. Benoit costs Jarrett the non-title match. -- Jarrett vs. Tito Santana, Benoit (and Orndorff) interfere to cost Jarrett his second non-title match. -- Jarrett vs. Jimmy Snuka, Benoit and Orndorff (and Zybysko) interfere to cost Jarrett his third non-title match of the night. -- Having done three matches with old guys and getting diving headbutted by Benoit at least thrice, Jarrett gets a concussion. -- Hart vs. Nash ends when Arn Anderson runs in to attack both men, allowing Sid Vicious to come in and powerbomb Hart and pin him while Arn counts to three. Sid Vicious does not win the title as a result. -- Terry Funk brands Kevin Nash. 1/12/2000: The Souled Out PPV is still advertised as having the following matches: -- Bret Hart vs. Sid Vicious for the WCW World Title -- Jeff Jarrett vs. Chris Benoit for the WCW US Title 1/16/2000: Neither Hart nor Jarrett are cleared to wrestle. Both vacate their titles. -- Scott Steiner has not been cleared to wrestle for any of this time. This leaves Kevin Nash as the only active NWO2000 wrestler. -- Nash and Funk have a match where if Funk wins, the NWO disbands. If Nash wins, he becomes commissioner and Funk is fired. -- Nash wins. -- Benoit and Sid have a match for the vacant World Title. Benoit wins. 1/17/2000: Benoit leaves the company and is stripped of the world title, making it vacant again. Commissioner Nash gives Jarrett his US title back. 1/24/2000: Sid Vicious wins the vacant world title when Jeff Jarrett's guitar-based interference backfires. That was basically the end of it. Just barely over a month and that one month span involved Goldberg/Hart/Jarrett (and maybe Nash at the very end?) getting injured, Hall getting injured/no-showing, Benoit quitting, and Scott Steiner coming back before he was cleared to wrestle to not really do anything. It was truly a perfect Vince Russo/late WCW storyline.
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Inasmuch as my college buddies watched any WCW in its dying days, I always professed to be a fan of Mister Slapnuts, but it was in the same way I was a fan of Who Let The Dogs Out or MD 20/20; I knew it was terrible but relished in having a slightly higher tolerance for its awfulness than my friends did, therefore torturing them with it.
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No Limit Soldiers would have got over if they had included Slam Dunk Gorilla
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The American Dream posted:As far as I know revenge is the only video game ever made with two Jews on the cover. 
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MassRafTer posted:Sting was in no shape or form a bigger star than Flair in 1995. Inoki was #16, and the Steiners were #15 and #19. Poor Ric wasn't even the most powerful wrestler on the card.
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syzpid posted:Someone would have eventually taken over that wanted Wrestling gone because it was a low class look for the network. It doesn't help that not only do adverts on wrestling pay less then shows with similar ratings, but that certain advertisers will specifically write into their deals that they don't want their adverts to be on during wrestling shows because it's considered low brow. Why did the New Yorker keep advertising during Wrestling Challenge then? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AidbSpdHje4 Wrestling ads are intellectual as hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCwzdzA-01Q
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Hogan faced off against an even more powerful opponent at SS2000, brotherBig Dave posted:Hogan then went after Bischoff. Russo told Bischoff he had a plan. Just before Hogan was going to throttle him, Russo came out with the police who all pulled guns on Hogan, and he backed off. Hogan sold the guns.
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My favorite thing about X-Factor (and there are a lot of them) is how that Uncle Kracker song isn't even a song written for WWE, it's just a song he had on his album that they dubbed X-FACTOR over that bastard or whatever the original lyrics were. I wish they'd really gone all in on that for the era so the whole thing would sound like an old B&V song contest HI My Name is (wiki wiki) CRASH HOLLY WHO LET THE BRITISH BULLDOG OUT? Everybody BULL BUCHANAN's Back, All Right! Somebody once told me the REVEREND D-VON is gonna roll me Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jul 17, 2019 |
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Kind of on that note I'm kind of amazed that at no point did WWF ever do a Rikishi video package to Back That rear end Up or a Steve Austin video package to #1 Stunna. And yet they got the Big Show into the video for the Thong Song Remix.
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It got heavily hyped up somewhere (WWF.com? On Raw?) and then yes, Big Show appears for approximately two seconds glancing and nodding approvingly at Foxy Brown's thong, all while being shot so he doesn't look remarkably large
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Other Worst Stable Facts: [Yo You Dealin' With the] X-Factor managed to get wins over a bunch of jobbers, the Dudley Boys, K-Kwik, Steve Blackman, the Hardyz ft. Eddie Guerrero, and the APA. In their brief run, the Natural Born Thrillers went over against Rey Mysterio, Diamond Dallas Page, Kevin Nash, Kanyon, Lex Luger, Rick Steiner, Tank Abbott, Lance Storm, Mike Awesome, Jim Duggan, Booker T, Bam Bam Bigelow, Curt Hennig, Buff Bagwell, Ernest Miller, etc. etc. I think that's a solid argument for "worse than any of the other groups mentioned" on that level. There's an argument for "worst stable" in terms of wasted potential but most of those (League of Nations, Nexus, Latino World Order) are cases of mishandling good talent as opposed to pushing awful talent. X-Factor and Misfits in Action I would argue, while being dumb, are at least using most of the people involved to their potential.
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rujasu posted:dude what Eddy beat Rey, Rey was forced to join, and then two weeks later Eddy was out with an injury and the NWO Wolfpac told everyone to take off their LWO shirts because they were the only group in town, and everyone agreed except Rey, who cannot deny MIS COLORES that he did not want to be a part of, so he got beat down by the Wolfpac and that started the angle that led to him losing his mask to Kevin Nash and Scott Hall. I'm not sure any of it counts as doing anything with any of them, except Eddy and Rey. It is mostly memorable to me for the shirt (which is great, I still have one) and the entire vibe of the scene who lost a match to be forced into a stable glumly wearing the stable's shirt for 4-5 weeks and then refusing to take the shirt he was forced to wear off.
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Anyone with ten pages of articles about/mentioning them on Media Matters is definitely a shitbag outside of any anti-wrestling crusades. Highlights include being one of the last True Defenders of Iraq Having WMDs in recent years, arguing for free speech by pointing out how Obama looks like a "skinny ghetto crackhead" so it can't be racist to call him a skinny ghetto crackhead because it's just pointing out the objective resemblance, and just generally being a loudspeaker for pretty much every lovely race-baiting, homophobic, Islamophobic, nostalgic-for-white-nationalism Trumpian talking point of the past few years, which got him an invite to that Social Media is Censoring Conservatives 'summit' a few weeks ago.
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Not to take away too much from all of the premature deaths and tragedies in wrestling, but some of those stats are skewed by how wrestlers work long past the age that most other pro athletes would. Which probably also contributes to premature deaths, but unless we have different lists of "six participants at Superbrawl III": Chris Benoit (26 at Superbrawl III) Brian Pillman (31 at Superbrawl III) Davey Boy Smith (31 at Superbrawl III) Big Van Vader (38 at Superbrawl III) Harley Race (50 at Superbrawl III) Hiro Matsuda (56 at Superbrawl III) The average age of an NFL player has hovered in the mid-late 20s for the past thirty years, which means that anyone playing in that game who avoided drug overdoses or murder-suicides haven't hit the point there they have the health problems that killed Vader/Matsuda/Race in their 60s or 70s. I feel like the wrestling industry of the late 20th/early 21th century is enough of a charnel house of tragedy that it's weird to lump "heavy smoker dying of lung cancer at 76" into the pile.
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