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Who Killed WCW?
Eric Bischoff
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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Rusty Shackelford posted:

Gayer than the tag team of Buff Bagwell & Scott Norton called Vicious & Delicious?

Buff Bagwell and Scotty Riggs: The American Males

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPP-sM_2YU

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Dario Delfino posted:

Same thing with A.J. Styles' tag team, Air Raid (he had a team with a guy named "Air Paris").

The word "spotfest" gets thrown around a bit these days but nothing I have seen comes close to this match in perfectly encapsulating a spotfest at its most extreme. For ten minutes a match featuring absolutely zero psychology, finishers and big moves being no sold and the most lame finisher compared to every other move in the match wondering how the gently caress that put them away:

Air Raid vs Jung Dragons (Jimmy Yang and Kaz Hayashi)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V37gmLnGlxQ

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Hedgehog Pie posted:

RTC was undeniably a Vince vanity project at heart, but most of the things I've heard about the PTC doesn't exactly make me sympathise with the non-Vince cause for once.

Though you should keep in mind that my knowledge of the PTC comes pretty much entirely from wrestling fans.

the PTC crossed a lot of lines regarding media in general, music, television and film being the bigger ones

they wanted a boycott of The Muppets

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Pope Corky the IX posted:

I know I saw a reference at some point to Hogan calling someone a "jiggly jiggly Jew" on Nitro. What the gently caress?

https://mobile.twitter.com/maffewgregg/status/1030876073368662016?lang=en

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Pope Corky the IX posted:

Not at all what I was expecting. I don't know what I was expecting.

Isn't that Chuck Zito?

Yes it is

https://www.tmz.com/2009/09/26/hulk-what-the-hells-angels-it-was-a-joke/

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Randaconda posted:

I used to have an old rear end tape of some of Sullivan's Florida run, and it loving owned


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCzzKfM7aNU

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Randaconda posted:

That whole Sting/Luger are BFFs storyline was really well done, and it fed right into the nWo storyline in a natural, organic way.

This was what made the Cody and MJF team so perfect.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
this thread has lasted twice as long as the monday night wars

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JaimsVanDerBeek/status/1285259617241460736

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://streamable.com/zvi14

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-d6p_D1OQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mOIl3VVaTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeKyujQ9jeY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upFCjcCwZ_Y

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjUrKlTlwnY

Uh, come on
Uh, uh, uh, come on
Come on, come on
When Drag finger foreman
I don't ever wanna get off
Skip three, count to ten
Ref. Griffin step to him
Y'all know how the riders ride
We always disqualified
I'mma a total savage
Like Lex Luger, you'll get the total package
Straight power bomb like Kevin Nash and Sid Vicious
Small like Rey Misterio put y'all in big ditches
Boy missing, it's that boy Drag from the kitchen
Slap your man hand, get an equal rear end whipping
Roll like Wolf Pack, toss men like Four Horsemen
And y'all can meet Drag in the middle of the ring
Y'all can bang like I'm in the ping
Before y'all hear the ding
I bring the things that'll make ya sweat
Make the blood sting
You can be a big wrestler still I pimpin' ya
The call me 'The Crippler' leglock will cripple ya
Cause I don't care who's the tallest
My body slam's flawless
Then run for governor like Jesse "The Body" Ventura

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

My takeaway from this is that Andre was the big man seller of all time.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
i got bored so decided to check youtube for wcw and nwo videos from the last month and heres Flair in the month before WCW going under talking about Chi-Town Rumble with Ricky Steamboat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8h3ECMvt0k

also this thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjOWnl39LKs

Hirez posted:

God Bless Rick Rude


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikgGDcJ3f1w

Edit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDAY1w732uQ

Lid fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Feb 16, 2021

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Is this new?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAx7Wc6sp9s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvWpdEV9bQQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxmMQMgO0so


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_JTbqm0aY

Lid fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Feb 24, 2021

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Snake Neck Rey Mysterio isn't real he can't hurt you

Snake Neck Rey Mysterio: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/wcw-toy-biz/114698002816?hash=item1ab488a180:g:MsAAAOSwQndgKgIq

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Red posted:

Why does everyone have a Hitler mustache?

because they talk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsIfSvaUz88

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
i've watched this on repeat but only because i cant work out if thats Vampiro or Shaggy 2 Dope

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:

well unless shaggy put on 50 lbs and grew out his hair....

back then Shaggy had hair!



so did Vampiro for that matter

every mother fucker balding

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
reddit introduced me to another on the list of Curt Hennig was deceptively ridiculously strong to go alongside the time he Perfect-Plexed The Giant

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/IncomparableGoodnaturedKilldeer-mobile.mp4

Jesus Christ Hennig ruled

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

TheKingslayer posted:

Considering the connection there I'm shocked Hogan doesn't have a story about how he was approached to be Batman in that movie.

https://whatculture.com/film/12-shocking-batman-movie-plans-that-almost-happened?page=5

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Renaissance Spam posted:

Early Nitros when Bischoff was aggressively taking shots at the Fed are solid choices. If anything watching the first Nitro and the related Raw would probably be a cool experience.

Importantly the first Nitro was not head to head with live raw, and was not for several weeks.

Raw used to be pre-taped though i forget if thats why for the first few weeks Nitro was effectively unopposed.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

remusclaw posted:

Yeah even the one I was thinking is a taped Raw, hence the asses in seats thing. Ideally I think nWo vs Austin era seems the way to go. Though early Austin could be fun, the Hart foundation feud ruled. We don't really watch much WWE in this thing, especially Attitude era.

These might be your best choices:

https://www.f4wonline.com/bryan-and-vinny-show/bvc-retro-raw-and-nitro-19-years-ago-week-256001

https://www.f4wonline.com/bryan-and-vinny-show/bvc-retro-raw-and-nitro-19-years-ago-week-211826

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/353630267087?hash=item525601a6cf:g:GVkAAOSws7dhHMa7

wowie zowie

edit: only after posting did i see the photoshopped current WWE title so this isnt old as WCW, but im not sure that makes this any better... or significantly worse

Lid fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Aug 21, 2021

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Mortis' theme is straight out of Castlevania or Yngwie Malmsteen

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewAi27WLTLc

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Sick Boy's finisher was called The Cure and was a pedigree.

Meat's finisher was called the Meat Grinder and was a scirpion death drop.

I dont know which name works less well.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Griff Garrison has been around longer than I thought.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Flight Bisque posted:

Just think, if they hadn't let it air then we'd have lost 20+ years of angelfire sites telling us that Goldberg was totally one of those guys!!

More bafflingly that it was Luther Reigns legitimately is one of the oddest bits of wrestling trivia.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
That man is a legend.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

smarxist posted:

Hulk Hogan vs Fake Hulk Hogan for The Hearts & Minds Of India match

But what about the Champion of Pakistan?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
not to mention that WCW's steroid policy was even more lax than WWF's, which was still very lax but Vince tried to keep it lower because of the steroid trials, and the thought of uninhibited roided up Shawn Michaels is a depressing one

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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And I think my head is burning,
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To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Maxwell Lord posted:

Not to mention yeah, WCW's culture just wore people out quickly. Shawn mighta ended up like Hennig or Luger, just already broken down before 2000.

I was thinking Randy Savage, from lithe ultra-athletic out of this world seller to jacked up beefcake that can barely move with everything shot

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1437570695756718086?s=19

Late era Evan push was very odd.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

If the next twenty seconds of that isnt Juvy either unconscious or stiffing Kanyon repeatedly i dont know what happened. There is no way to take that well.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Halloween Jack posted:

That's because

whereas the Killswitch is the kind of lovely finisher they make developmental guys use as a punishment

looks at juice robinson

Checks out

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17OwA5Nanp0

this video is showing Hogan going into business for himself against Vader but the bigger thing is the first five seconds where Hogan sandbags the poo poo out of Vader and Vader herks him up anywhere and does a beautiful powerbomb

Hogan is not a small man, he is a legit 6'6" and thick. Vader was something else.

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
I quit watching the moment David Arquette became champion necause even to teenage me it was clear this had no respect for the title as a thing to be won by the best. It was such an insult. I tried WWF too but Arquette was so poisonous i gave up for several years until mid 2000s RoH brought me back as it was like this is what wrestling could be again. Took 15 years for that dream to become reality.

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