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IANAL, but I got divorced in Ohio in 2011. Mine was the simplest divorce possible; everything was as amicable as could be expected and we used the simpler "dissolution" process (since Ohio differentiates between the two). Everyone told me I could go it without a lawyer, and maybe I could have, but man it was so much easier to just pay someone to make sure everything got filled out and accounted for and filed properly. The dissolution cost me about $2k in lawyers fees, and an estimated $4-8k if it became a full divorce. Court fees are also higher if you go through the full process, because a magistrate gets involved earlier and does much more in terms of dividing up property equitably.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2014 13:17 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 03:46 |
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As a taxpayer, I always thought your recourse was to either pay the money you didn't already, or get back the money you overpaid, every year about mid-April.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2015 21:32 |
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To add to the kid-not-on-the-insurance question, a similar thing happened to me about a year ago. Some 16-year-old kid was texting and not paying attention to the road, blew a stop sign, and t-boned my car (only going about 10 so not huge damage). I didn't even call the police; I took a ton of pictures (including the kid's license and instance card with mom's name on it) and I was recording a video when he got out of his car and started sobbing about how it was all his fault and he was in so much trouble because now he was going to be late to a school dance. I called my insurance and they paid for the repairs. I had to pay the deductible, because $kid told his parents it wasn't his fault and that's the story they gave their insurance. Once my insurance sent the pictures and video over, $kid's parents said he wasn't on the policy, then stopped responding altogether. So I was out $500 and I had a claim on my record. Then 9 months later my insurance sent me a letter that the claim had been resolved through subrogation, my premium would go back to what it was before, and I got a check for my deductible back. The moral is: call your insurance and let them fight the other company. It's what you pay them for. Edit: No wait, the moral is to call one of the lawyers in this thread to sue everyone within 5 miles for creating joinder with your non-corporate entity. Sonic Dude fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Oct 24, 2015 |
# ¿ Oct 24, 2015 14:31 |
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Let’s say a person in Ohio was married, and that person’s spouse (alone) signed an “automatically renewing” agreement for some years of a service at their shared home. Let’s also say that after that person was divorced from the spouse, they continued paying that monthly bill unaware of any automatic renewal, as the person who remained in the home assumed it was and had always been a month-to-month bill. Would the person reasonably be subject to the terms of that agreement, despite being unaware of it? The person in question has reached out to a lawyer for their specific case, but I have yet to hear an update. I wonder for my own curiosity.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2018 00:44 |
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joat mon posted:Are you wondering whether 1) 'that person' has to continue paying an automatically renewing agreement until they die, or 2) whether some specific term of the agreement applies to them? I didn’t assume they’re screwed forever, but it’s something like 3 years left on a recent “renewal” for a pest control thing, and they’re looking to move so I assume (and have been told loudly) that they aren’t interested in paying to treat a house they don’t own. I’m not sure what the divorce decree says, I wonder if it’s even in there. My divorce had a bunch of minutiae about monetary debts and accounts but nothing about obligations like that (maybe it gets lumped in with the house and its “contents”), so I’m not sure if that’s a common thing to consider.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2018 03:43 |
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Thanatosian posted:Has your friend tried just calling and explaining the situation to the exterminator? EwokEntourage posted:Is your friends name on the contract? If not, has he just considered not paying it? If his name isn’t on it, and it defaults, they’ll probably just send it to collections in whoever’s name is on the contract....
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2018 07:54 |
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Phil Moscowitz posted:What to expect depends on lots of factors but yes bring a book and expect the potential for waiting a long time doing nothing. I suppose this is a legal question (and I assume the answer comes with a healthy dose of “it depends on where you are”), but presumably people are allowed to have their phones nearby when waiting around for jury duty? Or do you have to lock them up or something before going to the waiting room to grow old? If phones can be in there, what’s stopping someone from taking some variety of portable video game or music player, etc.? Or is that a thing people do?
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2021 03:57 |
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euphronius posted:Also what do you do if the jurors wrote down notes about evidence later removed As someone with no experience in the legal profession (outside of wanting to go to law school 15 years ago and deciding not to because there are like 50x more law school graduates than there are retiring lawyers every year), this is something which baffles me. I understand it from a logical standpoint; a person can be told “use this set of evidence alone to draw a conclusion,” and they’re supposed to consciously ignore anything else they’ve seen or heard. The problem is that I’ve worked in both retail and fast food, and most people lack the mental elasticity to ignore the things they’ve made up in their own heads about the world around them, let alone some presented-but-removed evidence in a trial that they can barely comprehend to begin with. Is the whole process just based on an understanding that the court is asking jurors to do a thing that they’re plainly not going to do?
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2021 19:27 |
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In my younger, more-willing-to-piss-off-my-boss days, the company I worked for made everyone put one of those “if you read this and you’re not the intended recipient then you must contact us by carrier pigeon” disclaimers at the bottom of our email signature. I added in “if you are reading this and you are the intended recipient then you owe me $5” to mine, and left it there for 4 years. Only one person ever (apparently) read it and noticed. Thread-relevant: I assume those are basically nonsense, but is there any situation in which (assuming the person writing it is competent, and not a trust fund kid who happens to own a company) those disclaimers actually encumber the recipient somehow?
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2021 01:35 |
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blarzgh posted:The judge is also coming across as a bit of a wild-card, but I think its a bit overblown. Without attempting to deduce his (somewhat transparent) opinion on the case, is it uncommon for judges to act this way, or is this just sensationalism latching onto a typical element of a trial and blowing it out of proportion? Specifically, I’ve seen a lot around the judge allowing the accused’s victims to be called “arsonists” in the absence of any charges/conviction, not allowing the victims to be called “victims,” allowing the defense to use racial slurs in court, and the judge giving the jury an extended Bible lesson from the bench.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2021 15:42 |
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Thanks for the detailed replies. It seems like most of it is media bluster, but I still get the sense that the judge has a preferred outcome.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2021 22:14 |
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I used to do IT at a small MSP with a couple of nightmarish “law firms” (solo cryptkeepers who kept practicing well into senility) as clients. It was hell. I’ve never met a demographic so willfully ignorant of not just modern technology, but the passage of time as a whole. We also had one guy who almost redeemed the whole lot because he knew he didn’t understand any of it, and so he trusted his assistant to hire us and get his poo poo in order. We replaced an ancient dictaphone tape machine in the attic with two iPads and it blew his loving mind. We also had some younger/slightly larger law offices as clients, and they were absolutely average for any small business we worked with. It was just The Olds™ that were a disaster. Sonic Dude fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Nov 19, 2021 |
# ¿ Nov 19, 2021 05:24 |
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Nice piece of fish posted:Or just get rid of the jury altogether yaknow And replace it with what? The judge just gets to decide and everyone goes home? Whether, in this case, the judge’s various actions were or were not out of line, and whether they affected the verdict or not, it’s clear to anyone who has a MAGA uncle in their family that he had a preferred outcome the moment he walked in the door.
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 16:10 |
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Woozy posted:I don't understand how people convince themselves of this. Consider the world he lives in. He's not "set for life" by any normal person's understanding of what that means. His day-to-day is extraordinarily expensive and currently quite precarious--once the fifteen minutes are up there will be no one to bankroll it. He doesn't "get" to be a minor celebrity. Even if that were his sincere desire, he really doesn't have a say in the matter. The price of getting through the trial as a social pariah who lives in the crosshair of a hostile and frankly slanderous press is that he has to embrace the only allies he has, which are political groups led by some of the shadiest people on planet Earth. Unless you want to volunteer for his security detail or at least tell your comrades to stop sending death threats to the family, I'm not sure where you get off complaining about this. He isn't going to roll over and die just because you want him to. “A white supremacist who crossed state lines with the intent of terrorizing people and maybe-accidentally killed two people won’t have unlimited money forever” is not the hot take you think it is.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2021 19:51 |
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Woozy posted:I'm curious why you think this detail is relevant, since it's not. Everyone who has some kind of take about this case talks about it in the same way. Are you suggesting there should be federal charges of some kind? Someone explain the "state line" blubbering to me. I realize beggars can't be choosers but ideally this person would be someone who ordinarily gives a poo poo about imaginary boundaries. I suppose the numerous posts talking about how he danced around firearms charges in different states were illegible. It’s telling that, for you, the white supremacy and killing are secondary to “but why would anyone dare to point out he didn’t even live near the T.J. Maxx that he felt he needed to defend with (technically) someone else’s high-powered rifle.” FrozenVent posted:Asking for a friend. Does the answer depend on whether the sex arses have gold fringe?
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2021 20:33 |
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Woozy posted:Okay. Do you have some reason to think the weapon crossed state lines? Tell me where you're going with this, counselor. Wait, you’ve been defending the gun itself this entire time, not the terrorist?
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2021 20:57 |
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Here's your legal advice: shut the gently caress up I have no money to retain you as my attorney, so I will have to pay in, ironically, hot dogs.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2021 21:07 |
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I had an airline close the doors early, less than 5 minutes after boarding was supposed to begin (they started early, while I was enjoying a $19 cheesesteak or something), and I missed the flight. I was in line behind a screaming banshee who promised to rain death upon all of the employees, and I tried to be nice to the people who get paid a ha’penny an hour to absorb abuse all day, so I got booked on a direct flight about an hour later. I did not require the services of an attorney, although I had a team of them en route to the airport just in case. On Crazydude v. SA: I do wonder what the solution is to insane people filing insane things. I know someone mentioned they do a review of pro se/in forma pauperis filings and throw out the garbage quickly, but there’s surely a non-zero cost of doing that, right? Is there an actual penalty for wasting the quantity of time that this guy wastes?
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2022 04:29 |
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Outrail posted:The guy seems legitimately insane. What morally acceptable penalty could possibly dissuade him from doing insane poo poo? I don’t know. Just… don’t accept the filings from known frequent-flyer crazypants people without involving a lawyer? That wouldn’t necessarily exclude crazy people who are also lawyers, which I hope is a demographic that is not as common as it may seem on the news. I assume that the level of computerization or automation to say “nope, cram it” before wasting an actual person’s time costs real money and is therefore not yet implemented in any court, though.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2022 05:29 |
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euphronius posted:It’s not that easy and there are lots of meritorious pro se filings. I’m not saying “throw out anything that doesn’t come through a lawyer.” I was wondering what could be done, constitutionally, to shift or reduce the cost of handling situations where the same person files things (which seems to generally be pro se, because unless they’re very rich, it’s probably hard to find a lawyer willing to attach their name to “I don’t visit porn sites often” suits) with the apparent goal of wasting everyone’s time and/or as part of an untreated mental health issue. It sounds like the answer is that there’s not much that can be done. I don’t have any skin in the game (being neither a lawyer nor a vexatious litigant), it just bothers me on principle that time is spent on this stuff, which delays things (even a little) for non-crazy people, whether those non-crazy people have lawyers or not. Thanks for the discussion.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2022 14:31 |
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bird with big dick posted:~4 months later they still hadn't managed to get a duplicate title. I had my stuff delivered to my new house, found the title, mailed it to them, and that concluded the transaction. I'm not sure what would have happened if I hadn't gotten the title. Sounds like Tenchrono is trying to give it back to the dealership, in case you want that car back.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2022 04:22 |
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Alchenar posted:In isolation, that appears to imply you cannot give restaurant recommendations to your friends. “I feel like having a steak. Let’s go to Johnson & Co. Widget Manufacturing, Inc. for dinner. Oh, you need to get your car fixed? Better call Johnson & Co. Widget Manufacturing, Inc. right away. My partner needs to have a minor surgery next month, so I sent her over to Johnson & Co. Widget Manufacturing, Inc. to get checked out.”
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2022 23:38 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 03:46 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Also why attorney billboards do the same thing. "Dial all nines!" Unrelated: a cab company in the area had (still has) a phone number of 444-4444, and ran a radio campaign that said “just keep pressing 4” some decades ago. I met someone who worked there around that time, and there was apparently a post-bar-closing rush of phone calls that just went “BEEEEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEEEEP” until the operator could yell loud enough for the incredibly drunk caller to notice that they were connected. Somewhat legal related: The unsupported rumor was always that they stopped their ad campaign because they were sued by some religious group for whatever liability the church thought they assumed for “promoting alcoholism,” but I suspect it’s actually because they didn’t feel like wasting 30 extra seconds on every phone call waiting for someone to start talking. Also because nobody calls a cab from a pay phone in the modern era. Sonic Dude fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Feb 6, 2023 |
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