Dislike button posted:

Most car designers in the last several years haven't gotten that memo. You can get some stripper model cars with 15"s but even the new Accord has 19"s stock (depending on trim). I think we can all agree that wheels that fill the well generally look better, ride consequences aside.

Mange Mite posted:

AWD is rather bad on minivans because the need for additional drivetrain to the rear wheels compromises the whole low+flat floor thing that, along with sliding doors, more or less defines the category. People like minivans because they're easy to get in/out due to the low floors and high roofs. Until electric AWD systems get cheap and common, it's going to be a tricky sell because of packaging.

FuturePastNow posted:

I remember seeing pictures of a 4-door Wrangler concept in like 1995 or so. Chrysler could have printed money selling it then, during peak SUV. Idiots.

Q_res posted:

Well, I think the guy before was talking about using the Silverados 4.3 V6 in the Colorado instead of the 3.6, which to be fair would seem better suited for it.

As for the Ranger, I'd almost be willing to guarantee that the engine lineup is going to be 3.3/2.3EB/2.7EB/5 cylinder diesel out of the Transit.

Pryor on Fire posted:

If anything it probably depreciates more than that, the used car market is not doing so hot and there are deals to be had:

Sadi posted:

I mean let's not beat around the bush, it's impressive the BMWs are that light. There's got to be a lot of carbon and aluminum to get cars with all those luxury features at those weights. The stinger looks cool, but I imagine they aren't quite 5 series well equipped.

Powershift posted:

new G30 M5

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2018-bmw-m5-photos-and-information-news

still the S63, 24 pounds of boost, 600hp, 553ft/lbs.AWD only, no manual transmission, 4350lbs.

With teslas and hellcats and stuff, it just doesn't seem $100k special anymore.

Ultimate Mango posted:

$40k 3-series competitor with two option and trim packages, sure out the nail in Infiniti's coffin. Then aim at Lincoln Mercury small sedans.

Hyundai truck will be hilarious. I'm picturing a Korean Subaru Baja.

dreesemonkey posted:

Wife stopped at the Honda dealer this AM and looked over the Civic EX-T manual sedan they had on the lot. She was impressed, it's optioned pretty well and she seemed to be happy with the size. She also liked a few accords they had there, but I don't think the MPG would be that close between them.

Not sure what we're expecting for trade-in for the Sonata, but I may have to go down there later after work to check it out if the numbers aren't that far out of line. (MSRP around $23k for the civic ex-t)

CornHolio posted:

The fabled mid-engined Corvette?

Powershift posted:

People already pay $100k for LS based mid engine kit cars.

Godzilla07 posted:

Meanwhile Nissan is the worst. Calling Nissan "Japanese Chrysler" today is an insult to FCA, who does actually make vehicles that people dream about owning.

I don't think there's a single Nissan worth buying new today. Even if you have bad credit, Hyundai/Kia make better vehicles than Nissan.

ilkhan posted:

I have to admit it will be interesting to see how Tesla does when they aren't the only usable EV in town. Dealerships vs sales centers, the big touchscreen vs buttons, superchargers vs charging networks; if nothing else it will be entertaining to watch.

BlackMK4 posted:

Anyone know when Honda usually announces their model year refresh? Appears that 2020 will get an updated Civic Type-R, Civic Si, and Fit. I will be buying one of the three, just curious how long I need to wait to see if it is worth it.

Godzilla07 posted:

Modern GM would build that Wrangler fighter, and have it 20% short of greatness in the first-gen. And then GM would totally gently caress up the redesign.

Russian Bear posted:

If acura still made the tsx sport wagon, it would be an AI favorite.

Powershift posted:

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

In my hands the 86 isn't slow at all.

Just like the MX-5.

Honestly this whole Waaawaaa 86 slow!!!! is absolutely loving dumb as gently caress bullshit by bench racers. And hypocritical as gently caress when the MX-5 gets a pass. Drive the ringer off it and welp no it's not slow at all.

Godzilla07 posted:

The V6 Camry isn't the best vehicle in its class, or even the best Camry


The IS, GS, and LS are direct competitors to the 3, 5, and 7 Series respectively. The ES is priced like a 3 Series, and it offers far more room at the expense of driving dynamics since it's an LWB Camry underneath.

I sat in a new LS recently and the interior justifies the price, even if it feels small for such a big car. I appreciate the LS's styling as every LS after the original one has looked staid to me. Lexus should've kept the V8 though.

Previa_fun posted:

But now you can get a 2.0T detuned type R motor/6MT

PT6A posted:

Have we just been lied to all this time and Italy is actually a 3rd-world country?

Powershift posted:

i own every Bionicle posted:

If the BRZ/86 had a Toyota motor in it, it would be inline. This would dramatically raise the hood, and the belt line. It would also move the CG both forward and higher in the car. Yes there are problems with many Subaru engines but they have serious advantages for packaging and CG.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

yeah i mean you want a wagon but unless you're splashing twice as much money for an E-class or a V90 you really can't get the space in a true wagon form

Rhyno posted:

Is it? I recall most people who cross shopped said it was not impressive.

kronix posted:

GMs problems

1. Management
2. Dealerships
3. Lack of internal competition
4. Uninspired, committee driven design
5. No class leading products

The company is so fundamentally hosed up in so many ways that anything short of fundamental transformation always ends up the same way. New leader comes in, GM gets a run of good products, finance ruins them, management gets fired.

got off on a technicality posted:

Only poseurs would consider entry level a burn

I have wondered how long it will take Ferrari to poo poo its bed in the marketplace with increasingly mediocre products (Exhibit A: the Roma). We're definitely agreed on this one

Godzilla07 posted:

It's about as distracting as a touchscreen because you still have to look down to find stuff. The buttons are small and not differentiated well by feel or color, and the giant button bank means there's no place to put your phone.

The Oldest Man posted:

The new XC90s have optional full wool upholstery like a Toyota Century

i own every Bionicle posted:

The whole design of the twins leverages the packaging of the boxer. An inline motor is so much longer and taller that it would push the hood up and forward with the required distance between the engine and outer body panels. Sure some guys have swapped them and made it work, but they don’t have to pass pedestrian impact regulations

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

You can not put a inline motor further back in a BRZ without major firewall and transmission tunnel work. Also the front crossmember is in a reeeeeeally awkward place for the sump. Also that bonnet doesnt close too easy

Source - I got the Toyota I4 we fit into a BRZ at the side of the garage.

The Oldest Man posted:

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