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LordNad posted:Yeah when she said she was one of a handful of female ROs in the country, I thought it was some bullshit thing she made up to make herself feel better. Don't know about my uncle's plant (Seabrook station), but my mother says her plant (Pilgrim think? they change hands every so many years) has it's own commandoesque team for defense. Do you guys have the same thing? Trumped up security guards running around with submachine guns and tacticool poo poo? I used to live near BWXT Pantex and they had their own security force and were more than prepared to handle pretty much any threat. At my high school, we actually had to do radiation drills. Fun poo poo.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2010 01:48 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 06:30 |
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Slippery posted:Wait did you just dis your own mother? That's cold, man. With the man hours and server time he saved over $50,000 on various projects by not forcing all of us collectively complete the dis for him. That man deserves a NAM or commendation letter at least.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2010 19:50 |
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oddspelling posted:I'm looking at a few different military scholarships as options for paying for school, and I was wondering if anyone here knows much about the Navy's Nuclear Propulsion Officer Candidate Program beyond the blurb the website has on it: NUPOC is where you'll get paid starting as an E5 for your last couple of years at school. You can get promoted based upon various things. After you graduate, you go to OCS. Upon OCS graduation, you either go to a ship to get SWO qualified and then go to nuke school or if you end up subs, NR, or at NNPS you'll go straight to nuke school and then to work after. All in all it's a really sweet deal aside from the fact that you'll be a nuke officer and basically hate the next 5-7 years of your life until you resign.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2011 19:24 |
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So you have a college degree? Have you tried putting in a package for OCS? Don't listen to anything about "Hey you can enlist and then apply because you'll have a better shot" because it's horseshit. Also recruiters are going to push nuke hard on ANYONE who remotely qualifies because the Navy is always strapped for nukes. Why are they strapped for them? It's not because it's too academically rigorous. Take a look at KetTarma's post history to get a glimpse into why being a nuke is not glamorous, fun, and in some cases downright sucks. If you're looking to turn 6 years in the Navy into a civilian career paying triple, well, nuke might be the place for you. If you're going in because you're a math aficionado and are looking for a challenge, I don't think you're barking up the right tree.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2011 07:04 |
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1337_ScriptKiddie posted:But I want to be a sea warrior, not some punk kid that shuffles papers with a gold bar on his collar! There are plenty of officers with worse GPAs than you. That's not all they look at. They look at the whole package - IE your character, community service, recommendations, etc. Second, your chances of getting picked up at school are next to none. Yes, people do get picked up. I'm not saying it is impossible, but if that's your only reason to want to join, that's the wrong drat reason. If you want to be a cop, apply for the damned police academy. Don't sign away a good 4-6 years of your life to do something you might hate when you already know it isn't what you want to do.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2011 08:10 |
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1337_ScriptKiddie posted:Well I will give it a shot for sure then. That officer recruiter is getting back to me before MEPS. I just never thought of enlisting in the navy as such a fork up the rear end because I have a couple friends from high school that are in it and both reenlisted and actually enjoy it. I would love to go MA like my buddy but I think I hosed myself by doing so well on the ASVAB. I don't think being a nuke will help your resume more than any other military service unless you're applying for a nuclear job or the person hiring you is a former nuke himself. With that said, you didn't gently caress yourself with your asvab. Yes, they are going to pressure you to go nuke because that's what they're supposed to do. You are eligible for every single job the Navy has to offer. If enlisting is really what you want to do, demand the job you want. Don't take no guff and don't settle for something you're already skeptical of. Now, the military isn't necessarily taking every person off the street and you may have to wait for the job you actually want, but you can have any job. Demand it! The recruiter is just going to try to shove you into whatever box gets him the biggest brownie points. For you that happens to be nuke. If you want to be a military cop, tell him you want MA and nothing else.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2011 09:01 |
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I'm not trying to sound all negative and rain on your parade. I'm just saying go after something you want. You're the one who will have to live the next 4-6 years of your life with your decision. Don't take it lightly and do as much research as possible. Sometimes it's better to walk away than it is to do something you'll regret. The navy has been great to me. If I can get into law school it'll be even better to me than I could ever have dreamed. Am I a 20 year officer? Probably not. I do enjoy it, for the most part, but I know it isn't something for everyone.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2011 09:07 |
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1337_ScriptKiddie posted:I will. Thanks! You need to be clear with him that it is your goal to be an MA in the Navy and not just join the Navy. If that's all you really want, make sure he knows as such and that you don't want anything else. Now, I will say that you might not get in right away. There may be long waits that you might not experience otherwise, but at least you'll be doing something that you actually want to do.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2011 16:03 |
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1337_ScriptKiddie posted:I guess what I what I am confused on is at this point, is who allows me to pick my job? Is it the recruiter or the guy at meps? The recruiter seems apprehensive about making a statement anything job related. You will actually make your job selection at MEPS.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2011 17:16 |
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I'm just sitting here smdh.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2011 04:30 |
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But because of human nature, you're going to have convinced yourself you made the right decision. You'll tell yourself that your recruiter, a man whose sole job is to get you to boot camp, preferably as a nuke to pad his own numbers, has your best interests in mind over a bunch of people on the internet. What do we know, after all? We're not the guy in the uniform with the giant rack on his chest and those silvery dolphins staring down at you. We're obviously not right and things will be different for you. I need some coffee.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2011 04:35 |
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I don't think anyone ever said they'd only choose nuke. And yes, life can suck quite a bit. Just re-read this thread to see what you've done to yourself. I hope it works out for you in all sincerity, but I just wish you had done a little more research into actually finding something you wanted instead of letting yourself get talking into something they wanted you to do. Well, we do need bilge cleaners. What rate did you pick?
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2011 06:32 |
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LoveThyNeighbor posted:Yes, Direct appointment through ODS as a Nuke school instructor officer So what makes you want to be a DILDO?
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2011 08:22 |
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moker posted:Why wouldn't you? Never on duty, never at sea, never have any actual responsibility, officer pay. I'd do it in a heartbeat Counterpoint - surrounded by nukes and baby nukes.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2011 11:07 |
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KetTarma posted:uhg. been on 14 hour lockshift for a few weeks now. for the uninitiated, that's where you work x number of hours on, y number of hours off every day with no weekend or off days. I feel so bad for you. The system we have in place for nukes just simply cannot last.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2011 06:21 |
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KetTarma posted:The prototype I teach at is being repaired. They towed it from charleston, sc to portsmouth, va and shipped the instructors up with it to stand watch, clean, do maintenance, and do support jobs like pulling up tiling, grinding off rust, and painting. Most of us are E6s. This is my shore duty. I'm billeted as a nuclear instructor/supervisor. Most of my time is spent scrubbing dirt off of the walls. At least I'm senior enough to get out of most bad deals here! Are you at least getting FSA? If not, I think each and every one of you has room to file a grievance and make an IG complaint.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2011 05:17 |
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KetTarma posted:Anyone that's married gets FSA. All of us get per diem. Well, at least they're loving you with a little lube. It might just be some spit on the tip, but at least it is something.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2011 19:29 |
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Cerekk posted:can't be stationed in Japan on a submarine though No but you can get Guam!
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2012 22:42 |
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KetTarma posted:Nothing better than starting ORSE preps.. especially with "we'll probably go back into shiftwork soon to support" At least it will all be over soon, right?
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2012 17:15 |
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The human resources officer I tapped for STA-21 boards turned out to be prior enlisted. He got out, went to school with the GI bill, got accepted for NUPOC for one of the teacher jobs, and then lat transferred to HR.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2012 19:41 |
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Nevvy Z posted:I'm a brilliant moron who should have gone into Navy nuclear poo poo in college but I got a scholarship and let people talk me out of it even though it sounded great. Then I went to law school because I'm, again, a loving moron. Do you have your JD? Have you passed a bar exam? If so, join the JAG corps. If not, don't enlist.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2012 23:34 |
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Ron Jeremy posted:What are typical shore assignments for sub officers? Do they typically stay within the submarine or larger nuclear community? There's a lot. DESRONs and CSGs almost always have sub guys on staff. They can do ROTCs and other schools. My XO at school was a sub guy. It just really depends on what they want to do. Once you get to a certain point, an URL (Unrestricted Line) officer is a URL officer. There's a lot of overlap once you start getting senior on the types of jobs that you do. There definitely are some specialized jobs, but there's a lot that it's just a body.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2012 06:54 |
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belt posted:edit: I'm dumb. Don't worry. We all are.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2012 19:23 |
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KetTarma posted:Its not so much that as understanding the philosophy behind what you want to do in each casualty. I lost lube oil flow. Why? What will make things safe for the next few minutes? What about long term? It ultimately goes back to getting good systems checkouts. You can always tell during casualty checkouts who understands the system and who got it signed off because their partner carried them. This really doesn't just apply to the nuke world, but any casualty to equipment you'll ever deal with in the Navy. It's all about following two paths: what could have caused this and what will my actions cause. You have to understand that there's likely causes for every engineering casualty, and there will be definite consequences of every action you take. Most of it is pretty logical to step through. Go down and look at all the actual gear and just trace things out and piece together what you'll lose each time you have to secure something.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2012 20:02 |
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Smart man.
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2012 16:52 |
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You guys must keep all the flags over on sub side. The only flag we ever see on surface side is MIDPAC, and he's not even a weekly sighting. If you're not his flagship or prepping for an inspection, you might not see a flag for an entire month or two.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2012 21:28 |
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monkeyboy posted:SUBPAC was right across the street from the sub piers, but the Makalapa facility (CINCPACFLEET and the other big guys) was closer to the sub side. Seems like every 5 minutes we'd be ringing the bell and saluting some admiral's barge/gig going by. None of the people from PACFLT ever really cross the highway to come over to the base that I see.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2012 23:55 |
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grover posted:Right here, this is your problem. What you REALLY needed was a car. You'd have a miserably loving experience on nearly any base in the world if you spent the entire tour/port visit/whatever within a short walking distance of your boat, letalone as far out as Polaris Point. Buy a car, seriously. Or if it's just a short visit, split a rental car with your buddies or something. Yeah, typically people don't have the ability to rent a car in Guam. Your shuttles are your only choice.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2012 23:58 |
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ChewedFood posted:Well that's not bad at all. I wonder if they calculated wasted time. You're a salaried and contracted employee of the military. Your time is pretty much worthless and this never wasted.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2013 23:31 |
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I haven't built a computer for myself since about 2004. Been just using MacBooks since.
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2013 21:59 |
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STAR is the biggest loving scam out there. It's trading a few months of E-5 pay (because almost anyone with half a brain can pick up E-5 via the exam) for extra YEARS of service. It's really brilliant, honestly. The nuke community has loving it's Sailors down to an art that SWOs could only wish to achieve.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2013 19:17 |
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Choose your rate choose your fate, shipmate. Should have been an ET.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2013 19:29 |
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genderstomper58 posted:i was an mm and it didnt make it any less stupid. also you dont choose your rate as a nuke I know! That's what makes it even better!
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2013 20:31 |
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He's going to use you up and then sell you for a pack of smokes and half a tin of skoal.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2013 22:41 |
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scripterror posted:So it wasn't county, it was the brig. LTJG blew past the security checkpoint on his way to DTP, guess he thought he didn't have to stop. He was wrong. Not near as good a story, but still a great one nevertheless. I always love hearing about gate guards tackling an O-6 or something.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2013 20:07 |
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Cousarr posted:Sub JOs work really long hours and get poo poo on all the time. Make sure it's what you really want to do and you're okay with this. By long hours, he doesn't mean civilian long hours like 50-60 hours a week. He means military long hours, which is upwards of 100-120 hours a week. That is a massive chunk of your life. You must be prepared to do nothing but work and sleep until you're qualified, at best, and then things might chill out to only 90 hours a week.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2013 01:14 |
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1337_ScriptKiddie posted:Is Charleston nptu really going to put me on fep for a sat pfa? Sat?! C'mon, son. This poo poo ain't hard. And, probably. Most training commands I've ever dealt with require good low as a minimum.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2013 17:12 |
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Harmburger posted:Is it actually possible to be put on FEP for passing? I thought that was reserved exclusively for failures? Training commands frequently have it in their local FEP/PRT instruction that anything below a good-low will result in placement on FEP. It's a common thing at training commands. It's not as common in the fleet, but still can happen.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2013 01:00 |
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Veins McGee posted:I met my first nuke in person today. He talked in excruciating detail about everything but what I wanted to know. He also mentioned that he was in the Navy about 5 times. He didn't appear to be a brony or an anime lover so I feel let down that I didn't get the whole nuke experience. Bronies and animes tend to be linguists. Nukes are just spergs of all varieties.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2013 13:54 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 06:30 |
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It's loving sad. We need more nuclear plants, not less.
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2013 16:57 |