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Schizotek posted:So, anyone else give Clockwork Angels a listen? All of Rush's best albums are between Moving Pictures and Clockwork Angels.
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Prog Doctor posted:I'm letting Clockwork Angels digest a bit before I decide how much I like it. I like it a bit more each time I listen to it. There are some low points though that I'm disappointed with - like "The Garden". "Carnies" has an amazing opening riff that should have been focused on more. And I don't know why they even bothered to include "BU2B2"...As of right now, I don't think it's as good as Snakes And Arrows, or even Vapor Trails. But maybe in a few weeks Clockwork Angels will have endeared itself to me... I don't think it's as good as Vapor Trails, either, but it's definitely better than Snakes and Arrows. It's a grower, though. There are a couple of crappy songs, most egregiously The Wreckers which sounds like a song that got left off of My Favorite Headache, but Lifeson just rules the whole way through. Great effort by him.
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Jun 23, 2012 22:46
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Punch Card posted:Maybe I just thought the last few albums were terrible, but Clockwork Angels seems better than anything they've done in at least twenty years (again, not a big feat when you look at it). Better than Counterparts? I can see people not digging T4E or Vapor Trails (personally love both of them), and I think Snakes and Arrows was a let down, but CP is just a better record.
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Jun 24, 2012 12:44
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Parapsyche posted:Clockwork Angels definitely didn't stick out at me too much at first, but after listening to it multiple times I'm liking it a lot more and it feels very cohesive as a whole. Definitely not my favourite Rush album (that would have to go to A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, or Moving Pictures...give me a break, it's like picking a favourite child), but it's climbing up my personal Rush chart for sure!
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Jun 26, 2012 15:13
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Rollersnake posted:Danny Carey played on Adrian Belew's album Side One, so there is some history other than KC and Tool touring together. What should have been the greatest power trio in rock history - Belew, Carey, Les Claypool - was a little underwhelming, in my opinion. I would've liked to hear more from them, but at the same time, the couple of tracks of Side One didn't blow me over.
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Sep 7, 2012 20:26
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Noise Machine posted:Any band that has Les Claypool is going to sound like other dudes AND Les Claypool, rather than Les trying to blend into the group. I feel kinda the same way about Adrian sometimes but he has the musicality to rope it back and still do his thing in a group setting (EG when he was touring with Talking Heads) I dunno, I thought Oysterhead worked. I'd really like to hear more Oysterhead. And I don't know if that was the problem with the cuts from Side One, either. There was just something missing.
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Sep 10, 2012 21:28
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Am I crazy, or did Marillion basically invent (music industry) crowd sourcing? I know I've got my name in the Anoraknophobia liner notes, and that was a long, long time before Kickstarter. Marillion rules, in any event. Well, I find Fish-era stuff unlistenable, but the rest of it rules.
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Sep 26, 2012 15:56
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iamathousandapples posted:You haven't heard about Marillion.com yet? (it's at the very end) They pretty much did every online thing before every band. No, I'm pretty aware, which was why I figured they were the first to do stuff like that. And marillion.com is good! I think the aforementioned Brave and Marbles are actually overrated, and the quality of the 90's-'00s albums are all pretty consistent. I like Radiation, .com, and Anoraknophobia as much as Marbles. I think so, at least. Haven't listened to Radiation in a while.
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Sep 26, 2012 16:07
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Dog Years is badass. Best song on T4E. Maybe the best drum chart Neil's written.
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Dec 10, 2012 15:35
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solids2k posted:I can't stand T4E beyond the title track, Driven, and Limbo. Vapor Trails is fantastic. A tie for worst Rush record in my mind is Presto... beyond "The Pass" "Available Light" "Red Tide" and "Show Don't Tell" it seems to showcase weak songwriting without the usually sick playing and has thin production. I love Vapor Trails, but it makes my ears bleed. I find myself trying too turn it up louder and louder to make out whats going on, and it stays inscrutable.
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Dec 11, 2012 22:22
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Seventh Arrow posted:On an unrelated note, I picked up Rush's "Snakes and Arrows" recently and really liked it. What's the general consensus on "Clockwork Angels"? Better or worse? Overall, I'd say it's much better. The concept is stupid and there are a couple of stinkers, but a couple of outstanding tracks, too. I find S&A to be incredibly boring, though. I'm sorta in the minority there.
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Jan 23, 2013 17:41
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I think Marillion with Steve Hogarth at the helm is actually a really cool band. I don't think you can go wrong with any of their, say, post-1994 output. Even the duds (maybe Radiation or This Strange Engine) at least have a few good songs. Although I honestly haven't listened to stange engine in forever, it could be total garbage. Misplaced Childhood is an amazingly terrible album, though. Go back and listen to it again at some point, just for kitch value. Then imagine the strange scenarios in foreign countries you could find yourself in with Kayleigh on softly in the background. And shudder.
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Apr 9, 2013 13:22
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"My First Zappa" was a rykodisc 2-lp-on-1-cd Apostrophe/Over-nite Sensation, that in my opinion, is about the best way to get into Zappa on a single disc.
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Apr 10, 2013 12:33
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Clockwork Angels has been on a pretty heavy rotation in the car now that it's warming up (it feels like nice summer driving music). What's some more prog similar to this? (besides Rush's discography. And as much as I also enjoy mellotron heavy prog, that's not what I'm looking for here) This might be a weird suggestion, but if you like the heavier stuff on CA, try listening to Clutch. If you like the ballads, you have pretty lousy taste in music. Not their best work.
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Apr 21, 2013 14:01
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Actually I've largely ignored the new Clutch despite all the love it's been getting in the stoner thread and everywhere else. I guess it's time to check it out. I find that I'm embarrassed to put on a steampunk concept album in mixed company. New Clutch is pretty good though. Definitely a little mutual admiration society going on with the two bands IMO.
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Apr 21, 2013 15:02
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TheForgotton posted:Modern Rush sounds like Tiles to me, which is probably backwards, but I think Tiles nailed the sound that Rush was moving towards after Counterparts. Alex actually plays some guitar parts on this track from a few years back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcvYIzCflg Wow, didn't know Terry Brown was still producing records! This band seems to like terrible puns and plays on words.
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Apr 22, 2013 13:53
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TheForgotton posted:Indeed! Cover art and occasional keyboards by Hugh Syme as well. These guys must have gotten the crap beaten out of them in high school. I'm seeing the mullets and bad moustaches now. Bunch of Nugent fans shoving the A/V nerds in their lockers.
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Apr 22, 2013 20:53
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Rust Martialis posted:Going to see Stick Men tomorrow and Tony added me to preshow access but I have no clue when to show up. Anyone know the casino in Niagara Falls U.S.A.? Blaaah. Is that just guest list to get in (show up around doors. I doubt there's going to be a line prior to doors), or is it like a meet and greet beforehand (who the hell knows)?
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Aug 1, 2013 18:20
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How is there not already a dream theater song called The Enemy Inside?
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Aug 5, 2013 18:54
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Rollersnake posted:I had this same reaction, and then realized I was thinking of Rush's The Enemy Within. Enemy Within's a really good song. EDIT: I'm guessing The Enemy Inside is alcoholism, am I close? BigFactory fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Aug 6, 2013 |
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Aug 6, 2013 19:46
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nihil morari posted:Portnoy isn't in the band anymore. He took his alcohol guilt somewhere else. I just watched the lyric video on mute, and I don't know what the music sounds like, but based on lyrics alone I think it's making a strong push for official E/N theme song.
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Aug 6, 2013 21:27
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FalseParadigm posted:He has some amazing jazz chops. Disclaimer, I'm really not a DT fan, but I think he sucks up otherwise decent songs almost as much as LaBrie's horrible voice. They combine to make the band really suck.
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Aug 6, 2013 23:46
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Synth horns and strings kinda display a general sense of poor taste IMO. Like brendt mydland from the dead was probably a pretty good piano player but I don't even care because he had such awful judgement in the bad Midi sounds he chose. I'm glad he od'd.
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Aug 6, 2013 23:52
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FalseParadigm posted:That is one of the reasons I don't like DT. They are a band made up of AMAZING virtuoso musicians that can't seem to figure out how to write an enjoyable song (at least to me). Go back and listen to some late 80s dead shows. You'll agree with me after about 2 songs. Maybe it was all the heroin that was making him fat finger the loving worst sounds on his Roland. Yuck.
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Aug 7, 2013 00:45
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That's really kinda exciting. I've only seen the Ade/Fripp/Trey/Pat Crimson.
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Sep 24, 2013 15:49
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Fun fact: Neil Peart auditioned for the as-yet-unnamed King Crimson in 68 or something. He could have been the drummer on Court.
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Sep 27, 2013 12:36
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Iucounu posted:Holy poo poo. I wonder why that didn't work out. He didn't have the chops. Or at least he wasn't what Fripp was looking for. I think he was also 16 or 17 at the time.
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Sep 27, 2013 13:02
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Rust Martialis posted:You have a source for that? It was in one of Neil's books. Traveling Music, I think. Commander Keenan posted:Elton John auditioned for Crimson too. Imagine what that would have been like. Holy crap, that would have been amazing.
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Sep 27, 2013 14:24
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Zappa is old man music but there have been way more girls at the last couple of rush shows I've been to than the ones in the 90s. And not just dads dragging their unimpressed daughters, either. Maybe guitar hero/rock band has something to do with it?
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Dec 5, 2013 00:39
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JAMOOOL posted:The fact that very few prog bands actually have women in them is likely a big part of the problem. Outside of Renaissance I have real trouble naming any prog band with a woman in it. Hopefully it's slowly turning. Women in rock bands in general are sort of a rare commodity, women who shred even moreso. Adrian Belew's bass player is pretty sick though. Something Slick? I forget her first name. But there are all-male rock bands (not even getting into pop) that draw a huge female fan base. Prog rock is just some totally uncool stuff. Although I think it's way more mainstream than it used to be. Edit: and although I probably wouldn't call her prog, per se, my first introduction to Kaki King was opening for Tony Levin Group, and I think she got her start playing Chapman stick for Blue Man Group. What's more prog than a chapman stick? BigFactory fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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Dec 5, 2013 19:33
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Whoa whoa whoa. Who de-progged triumph?
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Mar 10, 2014 23:10
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Full disclosure: I haven't listened to triumph since I was 12. My copy of thunder seven looks like a taco shell. Otherwise id give it a spin. I always in my head lumped triumph in with progressive hard rock bands like Savatage though.
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Mar 11, 2014 00:14
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Declan MacManus posted:It's unfortunate that Yes isn't really that great at bringing the energy live. It's not unexpected, they're all like 70, but they used to kill live (Yessongs is fantastic) I saw them in the early 2000's, on the tour when they played all the long-form stuff (CTTE, Gates of delerium, etc..), and they were ok. Nothing amazing, but I kinda set the bar low for summer shed classic rock cash in tours anyways. Although I did see the moody blues once in a summer shed on a cash-in nostalgia tour and they slayed, so who knows. Maybe ancient prog bands are a coinflip.
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Mar 25, 2014 20:59
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King crimson's 2000's lineup was 3/4 American.
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Mar 31, 2014 02:59
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I guess you cod say that Phish at their best is a pretty good prog band. At their worst they're something else.
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Mar 31, 2014 23:13
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Declan MacManus posted:I wouldn't call Phish a prog band any more than I would call the Dead a prog band. Really? Phish don't actually sound that much like the grateful dead. Their long form composed stuff is straight out of the prog playbook. Edit: trey inducted Genesis into the r&r hall of fame, his roots are pretty geeky. His first band covered Hemispheres.
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Mar 31, 2014 23:40
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I think there are a lot of bands who you would unquestionably call "prog" that you could say a large percentage, if not majority of their output isn't prog if you go song by song. Rush comes right to mind.
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Apr 1, 2014 02:05
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Gianthogweed posted:Bands can be more than one genre. And if I had to pull a percentage out of my rear end, I'd say that Phish is about 35% prog. If you just go by their first albums Junta, Lawn Boy, A Picture of Nectar, Rift, and the unofficial Gamehendge concept album The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday, I'd say they were about 80% prog. It's significant enough for me to consider them prog. It's not just the old stuff either. Time Turns Elastic is a straight up 10 minute multi-part progressive rock tune.
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Apr 1, 2014 02:52
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Phish has some bad songs (every band does), and their jams are boring 9 times out of 10 (with the 10 out of 10 being amazing), but when they're good they're really really good. I think a lot of modern prog rock fans get turned off by the drug culture for whatever reason. And I guess they're kind of an intimidating band to get into because the culture is so insular, although I think that's WAY less true in 2014 than it was in 1996 or something.
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Declan MacManus posted:I don't get turned off at the drug culture, I just find them to be aimless. But sure, I'll give them a shot, what could go wrong? Your fashion sense could take a dramatic turn for the worse.
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