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Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Just download episodes of Planet Prog from here http://www.wmse.org/archive/new.php?dow=Sun&hour=210
Mark Krueger has been doing the show in some form or another out of Milwaukee for 34 years with no sign of stopping anytime soon, and his tastes occasionally lean towards the metallic end of the prog spectrum.

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Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Efilnikufesin posted:

I haven't read through the whole thread yet, but has anyone mentioned Watchtower yet? Watchtower is one of, if not the, very first technical progressive metal bands (Queensryche wasn't technical.) and they actually did a really drat good job of combining thrash metal with really complex prog. Their second album, "Control and Resistance" is one of my all time favorite albums in no small part thanks to the addition of guitarist Ron Jarzombek, who is hands down one of the most amazing and creative axemen ever to hold the guitar. Of course, just like their idols, Rush, the instruments are great but the singing is at times painful. Ah well. The instruments make up for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9NgBvsifTE

You absolutely must hear Deathrow's 1988 album Deception Ignored. It's in a similar vein to Watchtower/Mekong Delta/Coroner, but I think it's even better. Here's the instrumental from towards the middle of the album http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyayloODWrc

edit: on second thought, after listening to that Watchtower song, Deathrow's not better but definitely worth listening to.

Optimum Gulps fucked around with this message at 04:12 on May 22, 2011

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Yeah I own both Spastic Ink albums and both Watchtower albums, I just hadn't listened to Control and Resistance in a long time and forgot how great it is. Blotted Science is an excellent side project as well, and his solo album Solitarily Speaking of Theoretical Confinement (part one here) is fantastic and wild, and actually a solo album, as he played all the other instrumental parts and programmed the drums. Ron's probably best known for this clip, though.

Perusing his Wikipedia page, I see he's working on an instrumental project called Terrestrial Exiled with the drummer and a guitarist from Obscura and the bassist from Spastic Ink. Definitely going to have to look into that.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Henry Fungletrumpet posted:


Panzerballett: german prog metallers with a fusion bent who make bizarre covers of popular songs (and some originals). I'll uhh... let the music speak for itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CgKzkriPQk

They're playing in the US for the first time in a few months and I can't wait to see them at ProgDay XVII. Really looking forward to Už Jsme Doma too, from Czech Republic. They should both be a hell of a lot of fun live.

And yes Efilnikufsein, I love Gordian Knot. Anything related to Cynic (goddamn that song is great) is always going to catch my eye.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Orange_Lazarus posted:

Man I want to start listening to prog rock (after seeing that episode of The Venture Bros) so I got a hold of some Crimson King.

Any suggestions for which album I should start with?

Well, if you haven't already done so, you might as well start with what Dean heard!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Not sure if there are any Echolyn fans here, but they just released their first album in seven years (self-titled) and in my opinion it's the best thing they've ever put out. Not to be confused with their debut album from 1991, which is also self-titled. Here's the opening track from it.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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It's unlikely considering how tiny the festival is (usually 200-250 in attendance), but anyone else going to ProgDay tomorrow/Sunday? It's the longest-running progressive music festival in the world and is held on a farm in the middle of nowhere in Chapel Hill. I've been going with my dad every year since 2002, and it's always great.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Rollersnake posted:

That reminds me—all I've heard by Echolyn is Mei, which I thought was pretty good. It is also the only Echolyn album I have ever heard anyone talk about. Is there anything else by them I really should listen to?

Pretty much everything they've released is great (though "As the World" suffers from poor production thanks to its major label engineering), but I recommend their newest self-titled album. Here's the opening track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoyegXZm9g8

Also, on an unrelated note, someone posted this in the Math Rock thread and I think you would all enjoy it. Japanese jazz fusion with a Zeuhl/space rock feel to it, fantastic stuff. I'd never heard of 'em.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuhqkLdfGW4

Optimum Gulps fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Jan 13, 2013

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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LordPants posted:

How many of their non-Remedy Lane albums have held up over time? I'm worried it'll all come across as all a bit dated now.

Every single one of their albums up through "Be" is a masterpiece, and they all hold up fantastically well. Just imagine that they ceased to exist after 2004 and you'll be fine.
For instance, here is a track from their live acoustic album 12:5 (the original is on their debut).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1wUieYlaq8

And a few more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f47atyeCmrE (debut album Entropia)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSrGoMKdkrE (second album One Hour By the Concrete Lake)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjrtKcPuvA8 (third album The Perfect Element Part I, generally considered to tie with Remedy Lane (fourth album) as their best, and the reason Scarsick was so disappointing (it was billed as The Perfect Element Part II))

Optimum Gulps fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Feb 18, 2013

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Rollersnake posted:

I saw them live at NEARfest 2005—they were really good, though they were out-Italprogged by PFM a couple nights prior.

Felona e Sorona is one of those albums I can't really find fault with but never felt truly passionate about either. I remember liking Contrappunti better, but I couldn't tell you why as I haven't listened to it in a long time.

They were also outshined by Kenso...goddamn that was a great year.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Chocobo posted:

I can't seem to get away from Ihsahn, the guy has cropped up in a bunch of the albums I've picked up recently. I was especially surprised when I heard his unmistakeable growling/croaking/whatever you want to call it throughout Leprous's albums.

When Ihsahn tours, they're his live band. They've also been the backing band on an album or two...plus, Ihsahn is the Leprous vocalist's brother-in-law. I'm a huge fan of both Leprous and Ihsahn/Emperor (who just got back together a few days ago, by the way) so more collaboration is fine with me! And yeah, he definitely has an unusual vocal style unlike that of anyone else in the black metal scene.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Anyone else going to ProgDay next weekend? Looks like a pretty solid lineup. I've been going every year since 2002, haven't had a bad experience yet.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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I'd rather go on this one. That is one hell of a lineup.

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Oct 6, 2003

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Trees and Squids posted:

I'm looking for some music similar to Comus' First Utterance. I'm mostly seeking the dark and bizarre kind of mood they've got going. Any ideas?

This is a little late, but I was thinking about it while listening to that album again and remembered The Trees Community.

Obviously not lyrically dark like Comus (everything is overtly Christian), but their stuff does get pretty weird in parts. Worth listening to even if they don't exactly fit the Comus bill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_yy0OXvUFg

Free Cog posted:

On a slightly related note, I've come to realize that my favorite kind of prog has an intense sound, with jazz influences being a bonus. I'm thinking of stuff like Van Der Graff Generator, King Crimson's jazzier instrumental sections and Red, and Yes's Relayer, especially Sound Chaser. What bands or musicians should I be looking into to get deeper into that kind of sound?

Have you delved into Zeuhl at all? Very intense prog/jazz fusion, always with impressive drumming, often with chanting, and pretty much exclusively a French and Japanese thing. Magma were the originators, and you might also want to check out Zao (not the Christian metalcore band), Eskaton, Bondage Fruit, Xing Sa, Pochakaite Malko, Dün, Universal Totem Orchestra, and my personal favorite, Koenjihyakkei. There's also a band in LA called Corima that I recently saw live, and they were the highlight of the whole weekend festival.
Koenjihyakkei:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIJtICRAxPc
Corima:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJy7UCn8VrY

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Allen Wren posted:

Bitch bitch bitch moan moan moan. Dude, you saw Crimson. I especially love your concern that we never experience something oh so terrible, when most of us won't even get the chance.

:frogout:

I have a feeling the close I'll ever get to seeing King Crimson is when Stick Men (Tony Levin + Pat Mastelotto + Markus Reuter) and Adrian Below Power Trio and were on the same bill, played separate sets, and then played a set of King Crimson tunes together as a six-piece. That's going to have to be enough.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Seventh Arrow posted:

Big Big Train, Renaissance, Pure Reason Revolution, Flying Colors, Maudlin of the Well, Oblivion Sun, Squackett.

Nothing against maudlin of the Well (or Kayo Dot, or any of Toby Driver's other projects for that matter), but I don't know how avant-garde death metal/doom metal/chamber music could possibly count as "pop-prog."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4cWwwVtf1s

The rest of your suggestions are great, though!

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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A human heart posted:

I don't know why I would do that. It's simply fact that those bands aren't 'avant garde', there's really no metal that can be described with that term.

Out of curiosity, what do you think avant-garde means? Because the textbook definition is "favoring or introducing experimental or unusual ideas/ahead of its time" and I'd contend that at least half of the bands Misogynist listed fall into that category, as would Dødheimsgard, Gorguts (Obscura album...pretty hard to argue against that one), and then things like Diablo Swing Orchestra if you stretch it a little.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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^Awesome. They were great the two times I saw them (2003 and 2007 headlining NEARfest), so I'm glad to hear they've still got it!

On an unrelated note, the new Between the Buried and Me is shaping up to be their best. drat this is good stuff.
https://soundcloud.com/metalbladerecords/btbam-memory-palace

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Gamma Nerd posted:

man, Yezda Urfa are loving fantastic

They are. I was at this and it was one of the best sets of the festival.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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JAMOOOL posted:

Some good modern prog recs:

Echolyn - mei (2002)
Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret (2005)
Birds and Buildings - s/t (2008)
Koenjihyakkei - Nivraym (2001)

I'd say these are as good as any of the classics listed above. Echolyn in particular are really really great, can't wait to hear this new album they've got.

All great recommendations, and honestly *every* Echolyn album is great. The new one is fantastic! Heard it in full about a week and a half ago on my dad's big-rear end audiophile stereo system with a tube preamp, and drat. The production on the drums in particular is stunning.

In addition to your list, I would offer up Big Big Train - English Electric: Full Power (2013) as one of the greatest progressive rock albums of all time, and it's over two hours long.

Sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL5qSj26NvU

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Allen Wren posted:

This reminds me of the thing that I just can't figure out - I like prog, I like metal, but 99.9% of all prog-metal sends me screaming from the room. Is there such a thing as prog-metal that's not constant meedly-meedly nonsense? The worst part is, I like a lot of the individual players in these groups, and I'll like some tunes that slow it down a little (the whole album is a bit much, but there are a few tracks on the second Liquid Tension record I like) so I feel like it's my problem. I dunno. I also have a cold right now so my brain's all hosed up.

I definitely will never be able to take Queensryche seriously, though.

It might not be exactly what you're looking for, but in addition to what Gamma Nerd recommended (and in the same vein as Voivod), you may enjoy looking into the technical/progressive thrash metal subgenre, of which Voivod were pioneers. It arguably reached its peak in the late '80s to early '90s. Here are a couple of my favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqY0MBZe8cc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lChCYQlxOjI (also listen to the album Nemesis if you like this, as it's just as good)


This is a little noodly, but I'd argue tastefully so, at least most of the time. Not sure if Spiral Architect is one of the bands you'd listened to before and been turned away from, but it's basically them with a bit less wank and more melody.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAldONrr34E

And since you like prog and you like metal, I'm guessing you've already heard Cynic, but in the unlikely event you haven't, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PFFLFbriXg

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Tsaedje posted:

The only synth that should replace a mellotron is a synthesized mellotron, and then you don't have to cart around a mellotron. There's no way that 3 mellotron band toured!

When I saw Änglagård at NEARfest, they had three Mellotrons on stage. One worked, one didn't at all, and the third had a lot of problems. You are probably right about that :sigh:

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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BigFactory posted:

Did they have broken mellotrons on stage as props?

Mellotrons are fickle...I believe they'd been functioning properly backstage. All I know is that they definitely planned on making use of all three!

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Oct 6, 2003

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Incoherence posted:

Found this on Google Play Music: the answer to the question "what happens when your prog band includes a trumpet player, a sax player, and a singer who sounds a lot like the guy from Coheed and Cambria".

In fact, Coheed took them on tour back in 2014 as their main support band, and Claudio signed them to his record label. I saw them live in 2013 soon after this album came out, and they killed it...one of the highlights of ProgDay that year.

Here's another great [instrumental] track from the album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tW66ra4hU4

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Rollersnake posted:

Considering my first experience with Hawkwind was seeing them at NEARfest 2007, it's a wonder I ever got into them at all. They were short one member (who refused to play in the US for political reasons), and my most prominent memory of that set was some guy in front of me orgasmically yelling "yeeaaaaaaah!" when the only thing being played was the backing track.

And it certainly didn't help that Magma headlined the following night and blew everyone else out of the water. Saturday was a pretty disappointing day.

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:

I remember back when I used to post on the Dream Theater forums (which got closed because no one there actually liked DT much anymore) Pain of Salvation was always getting praise but the only album I found in the music store was Be...

I am not a Pain of Salvation fan.

Be is unlike any of their other records...it's an incredibly pretentious concept album designed to be performed as a live stage show. Everything up until Be is a masterpiece of emotional prog metal. Try out these songs, at least, before you discount them entirely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjrtKcPuvA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsAoNaOnuM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PzR1nmrxeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSrGoMKdkrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmrU2NahT2Q

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Parasara posted:

I've never really listened to prog rock before but I am absolutely in love with both of Thank You Scientist's albums. If this is even remotely close to what I can get from other prog rock bands I've been missing out.

There aren't many bands that sound like Thank You Scientist, to be honest. I saw them live a couple years back at a progressive music festival in Chapel Hill, NC, and they were one of the highlights of the weekend. They seem to have picked up a bit of popularity since Coheed and Cambria took them on a national tour as their support band, and, I believe, signed them to their record label. Fitting since their singers sound nearly identical!

That said, you might enjoy In the Presence of Wolves, who'll be playing at this year's edition of the same festival a month from now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEtn8M4D7wU

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Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

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Unlikely considering how small it is, but is anyone else going to ProgDay tomorrow/Sunday? I'm totally blown away by some of the bands, especially Bent Knee, and I'm glad I'll finally be able to see Deus Ex Machina and Discipline after all these years.

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