Crimson Kings, Agriculturists, and Lightsabers - The Prog Thread

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Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Gimmedaroot posted:

And to anyone who has only heard Porcupine Tree and not King Crimson (specifically 73-84), I can only shake my head.

Among other things. (The single edit doesn't really do justice to the amount of "borrowing" from Animals.)

# ¿ Jul 9, 2010 02:18

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 08:00

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Well, since this thread is sort of back, I've been listening to a whole lot of Karnivool's latest Sound Awake ever since I saw them open for Porcupine Tree last month. Sound is in the same general area as Tool, I guess, with some other bands thrown in as influences.

Sample youtubes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjvtx3HMUks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbupWH5cqFY

# ¿ Sep 30, 2010 02:03

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Retarded Goatee posted:

Going back to the earlier talk about Steven Wilson/PT

I feel as if I'm the only person who actually find Stupid Dream to be the by far best album, perhaps mostly due to the incredible atmosphere of it. A Smart Kid is probably one of the best songs out of that band.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say I actually like more of Stupid Dream than I do of In Absentia. Part of me wants to say that the concept for Stop Swimming shouldn't work, but drat if I don't cringe at the end of it every time.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2011 21:28

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

KingCrimson posted:

That saxophone solo makes up for the embarrassingly terrible lyrics. Who listens to prog for the insightful lyrics, anyway?

There's a threshold somewhere where you can't actually ignore the stupid lyrics any more and it ruins your enjoyment of the song.

Granted, there are plenty of artists who can get away with bad lyrics because you can't hear them (metal bands), you can't understand what they're saying (death growls), or they never made any sense in the first place (the Mars Volta), but those you can manage to ignore.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2011 00:33

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Found this on Google Play Music: the answer to the question "what happens when your prog band includes a trumpet player, a sax player, and a singer who sounds a lot like the guy from Coheed and Cambria".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_GQp2R2Hf8

# ¿ Feb 6, 2016 01:21

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Incoherence posted:

Found this on Google Play Music: the answer to the question "what happens when your prog band includes a trumpet player, a sax player, and a singer who sounds a lot like the guy from Coheed and Cambria".

And now the same guys have a new album, which sounds like more of the same. Not that I'm calling that a bad thing :shrug:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B97Ifr9pPy4
Kinda hoping that the Haken/Thank You Scientist tour sprouts a San Francisco date at some point.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2016 00:38

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

A human heart posted:

The thing with a lot of these prog metal guys is that theres a superficial aesthetic of being 'progressive' that like old death metal or thrash or whatever doesn't have, even though old death metal was probably more progressive in the sense of doing new things, and people value that aesthetic more than what the music actually did.

The term "prog" when applied to modern music tends to be used more as a style than as an indication that the band is necessarily doing anything new or interesting. Sometimes they're overt homages, like The Mars Volta's "Goliath" or Porcupine Tree's "Time Flies".

# ¿ Mar 3, 2017 03:06

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

For all of your new prog-metal needs:

New Leprous is weird: more rock-ish and less metal-ish. Not sure how I feel about it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk63FcCIw9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl4gwOMrJiQ

New Caligula's Horse sounds good, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QJlFdFquiY

# ¿ Aug 18, 2017 02:33

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Seventh Arrow posted:

Oblivion Sun

Opeth? Just pretend everything after [choose one: MAYH, Blackwater Park, Watershed] never happened.

# ¿ Jan 12, 2018 23:15

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

New Haken single. Not making any huge impression on me yet, but we'll see what the album brings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD3v8w57_lU

# ¿ Sep 4, 2018 18:13

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Vulture Culture posted:

I usually recommend prog-heads get into the PT discography with The Sky Moves Sideways, though. Some people like to write that album off as some kind of half-assed aping of Pink Floyd's Animals because of the length and structure of the tracks on the album, but that's a really lazy comparison that doesn't fit the music at all.

I mean, if you liked "Time Flies", which is a thinly-veiled remix of Pink Floyd's Animals, then maybe that's not such a bad thing.

# ¿ Dec 11, 2018 20:11

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

New Soen single sounds kinda Pink Floyd-ish. (The other new singles sound more like Lykaia, which is fine by me.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLSh0E0Rikc

# ¿ Jan 19, 2019 23:41

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Some cool prog folk metal, including a rare Metal Flute Sighting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDV_BeAZIUM

# ¿ Mar 27, 2019 01:30

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Vulture Culture posted:

e: oh poo poo, it's Anna from Eluveitie

They're all ex-Eluveitie, apparently.

# ¿ Mar 27, 2019 22:26

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

The prog-rock/jazz/drum corps collaboration you didn't know you wanted has returned!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxrz6RPSww0

(Bluecoats is the same corps that put a Thank You Scientist song in their show in 2017.)

# ¿ Apr 24, 2019 00:15

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Bent Knee is kinda hit or miss for me, but this is a jam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_pZNNWBnmw

# ¿ Jul 2, 2019 09:40

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

New Caligula's Horse single. I'm kinda hoping their North American tour doesn't get coronavirus'd too...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNc5PT645sU

# ¿ Mar 15, 2020 20:17

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

tote up a bags posted:

Thoughts on the new Haken? I feel like between vector and virus there's one album of solid content

I like parts of it, but Messiah Complex felt too callback-heavy for me: I know it's part of the album concept but I don't usually get deep into prog lyrics lore so it just kinda feels like a rehash.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2020 10:19

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Wax Simulacra was the song they won the Grammy for, and that's sub-3 minutes.

# ¿ Jun 22, 2022 14:19

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

New Haken single. New album in March.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQJ-e75ZSj8

# ¿ Dec 9, 2022 23:26

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Nightmare Cinema posted:

How in the ever living gently caress did a djent band make it to the Eurovision finals again?

The lead singer grew up in Germany watching it. Voyager got 2nd in their national final last year (and won the public vote), and this year were selected without a competition (with a different song, and IMO a better one).

# ¿ May 14, 2023 00:12

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Nightmare Cinema posted:

New Caligula's Horse is missing something. It's ok.

The first and last tracks are definite winners; the middle I need to listen to a few more times to really get. Still, it's new Horse, and that's always a good thing.

# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 01:18

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 08:00

Incoherence: May 22, 2004; POYO AND TEAR

Snow Cone Capone posted:

TYS rules, they used to play shows in my basement like 15 years ago

closest way I can describe them is if the Rx Bandits and Coheed & Cambria had a baby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxzSGMYogow

Still kinda curious what's going to happen to them now that the singer left (evidently because he didn't like touring).

# ¿ Mar 26, 2024 21:21

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