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xcore posted:I've just been reading the last few pages of this thread. As a new parent I'm gonna have to start getting more informed about what is good and what isn't at the moment. You had America's weekday cartoons on Saturday and our Saturday cartoons on weekdays, you lucky dog. Unless the only reason I never hungered for more Ducktales was that it was on so much. Saved by the Bell was Saturday over here as well, though.
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Who aside from Peter Cushing is a British bad guy in original Star Wars? It's an aesthetic for sure, but maybe the deliberate part is that all of the rebels sound southern-California American.
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Oct 8, 2014 20:12
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horriblePencilist posted:Can I get a reminder of what happened to the Skyler guy who created Clarence? If I recall correctly, he got fired for sexually harassing a woman, then it turned out he was a hack who didn't actually do that much for the show and some other guys are now in charge of producing the show. Is that correct? Here's a news article: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/ideas-co...ons-101061.html And a link from a friend of his explaining how nuts he was: http://jeffrowegifs.tumblr.com/post/90700109592/skyler-page And some more clarification from Emily Partridge, the woman he attacked: http://empartridge.tumblr.com/post/90744944014/oh-my-god-what-is-happening-masterpost The grossest part of the story is that it sounds like a bunch of people who work for Cartoon Network went to school with Page and knew he might do something bad: quote:I’ve heard a lot about how people just assumed that girls knew to stay away from him. I didn’t. I hadn’t even met him before; a lot of us didn’t go to CalArts, guys, and we need to work harder to keep each other safe. a lot of other women have come to me in private with really similar stories. we need to stop letting this happen. It does sound like he did more work on the show than he could handle as a young guy developing a mental disease, but that he had his responsibilities taken away over time to the point where he wasn't doing very much. It sounds like his "reputation" prior to going nuts was being disrespectful to and groping women, but there's not as much information about that.
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Oct 18, 2014 17:18
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Ariza posted:Unfortunately, cartoonbrew.com is basically Gawker for cartoons and tumblr is tumblr. It doesn't take much to ruin a person's life anymore. Emily Partridge is the woman he attacked. That she used one blogging platform over another doesn't really say anything about the content.
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Oct 18, 2014 18:52
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Don't forget...about the kids in...the old Charlie Brown tv specials. The weird pauses...that make their performances so memorable...are because...the kids could only read so many lines at once...without having to take a brake.
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Oct 22, 2014 18:16
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Myrmomancer posted:drat it, I did not need this song stuck in my head again this year. Oh well. Yeah: they used to run it before the Charlie Brown Christmas special.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:16
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El Tortuga posted:Sonic the Hedgehog was the kick-rear end mid-90's cartoon about Sonic and his pals trying to overthrow Robotnik, who had really already won. And it had an awesome theme song. Weren't there two at the same time, both with Urkel as Sonic? I remember a Saturday-morning one that was dramatic and serious and a more jokey weekday afternoon one.
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Dec 15, 2014 19:47
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ThermoPhysical posted:Ahahaha really? Screwy Squirrel, star of a single Warner short.
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Dec 20, 2014 22:34
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TwoPair posted:Regular Show had a special where a cast member was a Russian spy. The 80s are back. Regular Show is not the best barometer of where people are in thinking about the 80s. Its 80s levels are about equal to The Americans.
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Jan 23, 2015 04:59
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readingatwork posted:I think people are just hardwired to have a nostalgic fondness for anything that happened when they were 11-13 years old. Also, he 80's was the last era of American history that wasn't drenched in bitterness and cynicism. I mean, yeah everything was cheap, stupid and corporate as gently caress, but there was a childish sense of fun to the whole thing. Are you out of your mind? All children's media in the 80s was predicted on selling poo poo. Everything you love off tv was brainwashing. It was mindless and stupid because they knew kids can't tell the difference. Reagan was a loving war criminal who began the free-market death spiral that's been killing us for 20 years now. Everything has always been bitter and cynical.
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Feb 15, 2015 20:08
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Ariza posted:You're really dumb. You haven't spent enough time on the internet, but you should also not do that because you will be worse off.
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Feb 15, 2015 22:12
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Ariza posted:I don't mind 80s stuff and I was none of the dumb things you posted. I was poor and black, but the 80s were a good time to be poor and black. Trying to equivocate them to the 50s is lazy at best. It's just not true in any way. I think you're responding to a different poster here, but AIDS, crack, militarization of police, the end of affirmative action, and the myth of the welfare queen weren't really bad for poor, black Americans? Bad for all Americans obviously, but targeted really squarely (or indifference from authorities targeted really squarely in the case of AIDS and crack) at destroying black communities. It's true that things are worse now, but only because those trends have rolled on unchecked to the point where cops can kill a black kid right on tv and not even worry about it.
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Feb 15, 2015 22:34
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mycot posted:I'm pretty sure they were responding to exactly the right poster. icantfindaname posted that response, not me.
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Feb 15, 2015 23:49
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Sleeveless posted:I listen to Rob Paulsen's podcast and he shilled this show constantly because he and his friends worked on it. Even by the standards of his usual obnoxious self-promotion (like pretending that Jimmy Neutron wasn't ugly garbage because it was a profitable animated movie with "real" voice actors instead of celebrities) it was painful. Has he ever talked to Grey Delise? She seems to have developed this Mrs. Robinson voice-actor cougar persona that's really weird.
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Feb 26, 2015 23:52
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Larryb posted:Oops didn't catch that somehow, it's fixed now. Hopefully they'll be able to get back most of the old voice cast or at least some decent sound alikes and that Alan Young will still be alive by then. I'd kind of like to see a revival of Darkwing Duck and/or Gargoyles while they're at it. While they're bringing back Ducktales, I'd really like to see an animated adaption of The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck, be it as a little mini arc or a full fledged movie. Greg Weisman must have 50 years of potential story bible and plot outlines built up on his webpage by now. The guy was posting hundreds of words a week about innumerable Gargoyle spinoffs he had fantasized about since 1997.
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Feb 26, 2015 23:54
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They gave it another season. They just named the new performer for Clarence. I think it's the head writer who first complained that Page was lazy, right before he went nuts.
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Apr 15, 2015 03:11
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Clarence is great, but the most recent episodes seem to be getting more surreal, which I don't care for as much. I thought maybe it was because of the guy who got replaced, but he has a credit on the one with the dog. The moments I like the best are when the show is being honest about how weird and insane children are and how mundane the events, environments, and concerns of childhood are in contrast to that. I hope they can keep things grounded in that weirdly timeless quasi-early-90s world they've built.
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Apr 21, 2015 13:19
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axleblaze posted:I just really like the way the money broom machine says "money broom!" This may be my single favorite thing about the show. Future Clarence's robot legs might fit too.
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Apr 23, 2015 01:34
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What's the deal with that adult living next door to Belsen? I only saw the last half of the episode, but out of context he seems like a molester, which can't be right.
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Apr 25, 2015 15:46
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mycot posted:I skimmed that but you are a sad lame man if you think Black DBZ Fanfiction sounds like a bad thing. 
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May 25, 2015 21:09
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I have to know if it was the spiderman comic book where he teams up with the president. Or the one where he teams up with Saturday Night Live.
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May 31, 2015 07:37
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DoctorWhat posted:No it was the one where Doc Ock steals Spiderman's body I think. That seems like an overreaction. Unless he was stealing it from the morgue to have sex with it, maybe. Then an executive order seems more reasonable. Comics getting dark these days.
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May 31, 2015 07:46
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The only spider-man team-ups we should be talking about here involve Easy Reader. Spider-Man Where are you coming from? Spider-Man Nobody knows who you are.
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May 31, 2015 07:50
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He used a lot of those goofy-rear end early 60s gangster characters really well. Too bad he plans all his shows like they're soap-opera length instead of one-season wonders with a surprise renewal mixed in here and there. His gargoyles plan was like phonebook-thick.
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May 31, 2015 08:09
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Macaluso posted:I'm marathoning Steven Universe for the first time finally, and I'm loving it so much. The characters are ALL so great. ALL of them. Like seriously, it's kind of ridiculous that I'm just as invested by the two donut shop workers as I am the Gems. I thought Steven was kind of obnoxious at first but that feeling didn't last. I LOVE how the show brings up things then like 5-10 episodes later, it brings it up again. It has awesome continuity. I'm almost done with season 1. I think my favorite episode so far has been Together Alone. There's a bunch of reasons, the writing was just top notch that episode. All these post-Adventure-Time storyboard artist diaspora shows have really interesting dad dynamics. Clarence has something similar, with a father figure who's obviously descended from Homer Simpson who is a believable loser, but he's emotionally real and motivated by love for Clarence and his mom--and in a reversal of the Simpsons parent-child dynamic, Clarence idolizes him and has no idea that he's in any way deficient as a father-figure or an adult. And of course Adventure Time has taken the deadbeat aspects of Homer in the opposite direction and made a bumbling failed parent who is actually toxic and terrible. In about 10 years there may be an interesting dissertation in a field that doesn't exist yet that traces the genealogy of the post-Simpsons animated comedy flawed father.
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Jun 22, 2015 04:46
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raditts posted:It is interesting, since back when it was good The Simpsons was a piss take on the archetypal TV nuclear family. Which was considered wild and subversive then, but likely could have inspired more "honest" portrayals like the kind you see in those cartoons. Yeah, and the Simpsons is a lot more cynical and destructive as well. Despite the moments of family togetherness, the show is basically about people trying and failing to live decent lives in a horrible world set up to make them fail. The first few seasons are incredibly bleak, and the Simpsons are often powerless to help themselves--and a lot of the humor of the show comes out of their failures to measure up to Flanders or to win any victories at all because they are good-hearted but weak and foolish. It's a show with a basically skeptical philosophy that punishes the Simpsons to tell you that a classic set of beliefs about middle-class life and the protestant work ethic are untrue and are tools of a corrupt, collapsing system of control. It's irony targeted at the characters. These new shows seem really earnest and hopeful, even though they take a lot of cues from the Simpsons in how they set up expectation versus reality. All of the kids are basically good-hearted but dumb and not usually up to understanding their situations, and often the backdrop is something pretty bleak: Clarence's mom works really hard to keep their house and his father took off and Chad is kind of a bum; Adventure Time's magical fairytale world is that way because it's all mutations from a horrible war that destroyed the world and has left lurking terrors behind that are utterly beyond the dumb boy hero; Steven Universe is in a really complex situation he's only just beginning to understand. But they all treat the setting and the characters with respect, and say that it's ok to have a difficult life and just push a very optimistic sort of positivity that doesn't come off (to me) as hollow or insufficient. Bad stuff happens to them and they acknowledge it and keep going, and that's alright. I really like it, and it's a nice evolution to some kind of guarded optimism from the totally cynical Gen-X negation that characterizes the Simpsons. I like these kids today, these millennials or whatever they're called.
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Jun 22, 2015 17:32
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:The Punisher, so that he can keep his Vietnam Vet backstory, was once cut up into pieces by Wolverine's son and so Morbius the Living Vampire stitched him back together so he was Frankencastle for a while till Doctor Strange fixed him up for realsies and thus keeps him young. Magneto's going to be like 100 soon, despite going from being a teenager in WWII in the early 80s to a little kid by the time of the first movie.
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Jun 25, 2015 06:36
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Tartarus Sauce posted:Vaping is the hot new thing now anyway. There's a ton of anti-Scottish racism that I hope predicts what the blackface/American Indian poo poo will look like to kids a few generations from now--in that as a kid I couldn't even figure out that it was supposed to be racist.
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Jul 29, 2015 22:10
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It reminds me of Sit Down, Shut Up for some reason. Maybe because it's bad. What is it with marketing and generational thinking? Are they looking for demographics by explaining how their show features people from those demographics? People in marketing should kill themselves. EDIT: The show's account in getting defensive in the comments, too. That's usually a sign of quality.
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Aug 24, 2015 17:52
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It was probably some office drone doing minesweeper or solitaire on his lunch break every day.
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Aug 28, 2015 03:56
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Gann Jerrod posted:I think what makes the cartoons that started around the turn of the decade stand out in comparison to the ones before is the increase in teen/young adult viewing. When cartoons were first made, they were considered an all ages entertainment. After WWII cartoons became strictly kids stuff, and now we're seeing it swing back the other way. There were bumps of this in the 60s and 80s too. Jay Ward and Hanna Barbera were made by the older generation and then the kids who watched that made the Simpsons and inspired all those 90s imitators. Then the kids who grew up with the Simpsons started Frederator.
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Aug 30, 2015 03:20
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They should also have an 80s team with Dave Coulier, Les Lye, Marc Summers, and Mr. Wizard.
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Sep 5, 2015 04:14
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Crabtree posted:What the gently caress happened to Sam? It looks a little varied in situations from what they showed, but at least it isn't the worst art style. It always Be Cool Scooby Doo...wait, that's also premiering as a Boomerang original show this October. Wow, CN doesn't even trust Scooby Doo to do well on its main channel. Kate Micucci as Velma is inspired casting. I'm glad Matthew Lillard found his role in life as well.
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Sep 17, 2015 00:59
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Klaus88 posted:gently caress Scooby Doo. There's something grotesque about the animation. It looks kind of like Alex Hirsch, but wrong and terrible also.
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Sep 22, 2015 22:52
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Why are AV Club adults giving serious reviews to children's cartoons?
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Sep 26, 2015 16:20
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Something can be fun and rewarding to watch without being subjected to same level of scrutiny you'd reserve for an hourlong show. Adventure Time has suffered from all the ponderous thinkpieces lobbed at it by NPR and the Atlantic a few years ago, imo.
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Sep 26, 2015 23:11
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esselfortium posted:http://collider.com/nickelodeon-90s-shows-return-rugrats-hey-arnold-the-splat Where's my 80s night with You Cant Do That On Television and Mr. Wizard? Show the kids poo poo they've REALLY never seen before. David the Gnome dies at the end, you little shits.
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Sep 26, 2015 23:13
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I don't know: they seem to just do whatever weird thing they want. They just go deep metaphor when it's fun for them. Remember that the last two big story arcs they ginned up had really dumb resolutions that came out of nowhere. I think they're familiar enough with weird superfans (because they were weird superfans) to know that they should ignore and humiliate them.
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Sep 27, 2015 03:38
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Sockser posted:This week, Scooby Doo meets Cass Elliot Jonathan Winters was a weird choice. Three Stooges made me sad.
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