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This new series of PPG is pretty bad on a lot of levels. The visuals are pretty boring for a show that used to be about using graphic line and iconic style with dynamic compositions that made use of the limited detail, whereas this one feels like a weird synthesis of that and a show like Clarence. Additionally, when they try to break the character designs to give them new expressions, it ends up looking really awkward and weird instead of funny. The background characters also feel like they are from an entirely different show, some of which look like rejects from a Teletoon Family Guy ripoff. The voice acting seems kinda off as well, where the actresses don't really push their performances enough. The new team is pretty young and rookie in VO, right? It might be a relative lack of experience. Bubbles' characterization in particular really lacks the sweet naďveté that makes her explosions of anger funny. Then there's the fact that some of the dialogue sounds like a Hillary Clinton staffer was asked what they think kids these days sound like. This is pretty painful.
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kefkafloyd posted:I'm OK with reboots usually (and I love Teen Titans Go) but why spend money on a middling retread when you could be putting out more great new material like We Bare Bears or Steven Universe? They have been spending money on those, though. They've been renewed for other seasons. PPG isn't taking money away from those projects, if anything it's taking money from other potential pilots being made into series.
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Apr 13, 2016 00:07
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The 00s was a time of a lot of really weird failed experiments that people either forgot or actively tried to forget existed (My Gym Partner's Monkey, Class of 3000, Squirrel Boy), many of which were trying really hard to be the next Spongebob, but somehow thinking that the best way to imitate it was to make everything as shrill and loud as possible at all times.
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Apr 15, 2016 23:55
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PicklePants posted:You're right. I should have known that, it's just easier (and lazier) to label the flat, non-shaded, non-hand drawn stuff as, "Flash." Honestly the main difference is whether or not it has the look of vector, and if they're using symbols/puppets to animate most of it. In the hands of a production designer interested in making it not look like that, it's completely possible to use any software to achieve a good-looking product. Ping-pong: The Animation was done in Flash, but it uses none of the same production methods as a lot of what people associate with the style of Flash/ToonBoom programs.
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Apr 23, 2016 08:21
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icantfindaname posted:the word you're looking for is 'twee' If only being obnoxiously twee was the only sin of Bee and Puppycat. If only.
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Apr 24, 2016 05:50
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I must be weird since I didn't even like the pilot of Bee and Puppycat. Even then it felt like someone took GIR from Invader Zim and filtered it through the more twee elements of Adventure Time to make the protagonist, then doubled down on trying to be melodramatic in the 2nd part with ~fairytale tragedy backstory~ but without having gone through enough development to get anybody to care whether or not the characters succeed or fail.
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Apr 25, 2016 01:50
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MrSlam posted:He changed his name to Toonwerks It'd be nice if internet VO people could at least have recording situations where their audio is of remotely similar quality. I mean, yeah there's a lot more wrong with this, but that kind of thing consistently bugs me.
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Apr 28, 2016 02:46
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Apple and Onion had much better timing and made me laugh more consistently, plus the cast is drat good. The first one has a lot of the Regular Show hallmarks, though (random 80s aesthetics, inconsistent universe of species, etc.), which made it feel a little bit derivative. Plus, I don't really see the main character from Bottom's Butte being someone I feel like watching for a long time. Apart from being dumb/wacky as her primary characteristics, there's no real core to the character that makes you want to root for her in any way.
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May 3, 2016 23:10
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Clockwork Rocktapus posted:Why does Apple and Onion look like it was animated in GoAnimate? Also how long until we stop getting Regular Show knock-offs? Wasn't really into the two slacker friends yuck it up and also the 80's. As soon as people stop trying to mine the aesthetics of 1980s as a source of jokes because they think being ironically fascinated with it is still novel.
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May 4, 2016 08:25
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axleblaze posted:This week's Gumball was pretty much like 25% Last of Us references. I was wondering if that was a Last of Us reference, holy poo poo Gumball.
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May 7, 2016 04:40
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Ramos posted:Wait, Teen Titan Go has lessons? All I can remember from it is that Beast Boy has a fetish for girls licking his underwear. If anything, someone who works on the show probably has a fetish for legs.
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May 29, 2016 07:30
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FilthyImp posted:Lady Legasus was sure something. Which time? They've done that maybe 3-4 times now. I get the gag but it's pretty close to "hey that webcomic artist is shoehorning the plot into some really oddly-specific things and oh god I just found their private art account christ" territory at times.
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May 30, 2016 10:55
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Loud House has been advertised really heavily, to the point where I've seen ads for it while watching Cartoon Network. I think they decided to not do to it what they did to Korra and Harvey Beaks.
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Jun 7, 2016 07:37
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I compare it to the kids in the background of a cereal box, but that works too.
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Jun 22, 2016 05:06
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I liked that they actually got a Japanese studio to do the fighting segments than trying to do a lovely facsimile of the style like most shows do that are based on conceptions of it that are more than two decades out of date (a la Futurama's parody). It's not top-of-the-line animation but it's reflective of the standard for contemporary TV anime, which kids watching online would more easily recognize stylistically.
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Aug 20, 2016 08:25
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raditts posted:And don't forget Total Drama ________ which has somehow had like a dozen iterations and may still be running today despite being like a shittier Laffalympics. To be fair, we can blame Canada for that. Toonboom Land will never let that poo poo die.
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Sep 30, 2016 05:48
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:It's almost like there's bad cartoons and good cartoons airing at any given time. It's all about the ratio of good versus poo poo. As long as CN remains above contemporary Nickelodeon levels, they'll probably be fine.
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Oct 1, 2016 07:10
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TwoPair posted:Danny Phantom was really good, but I think it really suffered from having Hartman's art style. It just doesn't lend itself to action. They hired Stephen Silver to do the character designs, completely wasting his time by just making him draw in Hartman's style. Plus it was really bad at action sequences because the design and directorial style is more suitable to a Flintstones sitcom style.
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Jan 3, 2017 08:49
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FilthyImp posted:LoSH got turbofucked by the SuperBoy embargo at the time, so they called a gangly teen looking Kal-El SuperMan and just said he was like Year 0.75 SuperMan! So they basically recreated the history of the US comics industry into the period of 2-3 years, then?
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Jan 5, 2017 12:48
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SlothfulCobra posted:Isn't 3D supposed to be cheaper than 2D these days though? That was one of the reasons for the switch, I thought. CG has a weird shelf-life and can look dated really quickly, and also requires a lot of engineering in order to achieve current baseline expectations of quality. In order for it to not look like hot garbage and fit within the demanding production schedule TV requires, it makes sense that 2D is still pretty popular for this kind of production, albeit a more puppet-based 2D than traditional.
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Jan 15, 2017 11:16
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I still argue that if they did a Parks and Rec style office comedy with Zootopia, it'd be oddly fitting.
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Jan 16, 2017 11:27
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DoubleCakes posted:I got a spot at that new Butch Hartman cartoon Bunsen is a Beast and I know it's a show aimed at children but the humour was so bad that I don't even children would be entertained by it. Many jokes are overexplained (if they only require one line they get three or four) and the main antagonist has a very annoying spitty voice. I think I mentioned it way back, but IIRC they hired Stephen Silver to do designs and then decided "gently caress it, just do it all in Butch's formula". It was the completely wrong style both artistically and cinematographically for a show that wanted to attempt action/adventure.
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Jan 27, 2017 05:22
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JRPG episode? Gonna have to check that one out, what's the title?
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Feb 14, 2017 06:18
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CN is really trying to push the new Ben10 but it fails so terribly at being either action nor comedy. The production values feel similar to the new PPG as well, even including subpar VO direction. Every attempt at a joke is strangled in the crib.
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May 30, 2017 00:22
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Waffleman_ posted:gently caress, I just realized something that's been bugging me about the Ben 10 reboot. Aside from the Omnitrix, there have been 0 other aliens in the show so far. All the villains have been either human or earthly monsters. This version prettymuch does away with the entire plot/premise of Ben 10 and is trying to go for a TTG thing but is really bad at the whole actually being funny part. Most of the attempted jokes are smothered horribly by bad pacing and delivery.
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Jul 16, 2017 03:42
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The Ayshkerbundy posted:there's a whole thread but here's what stood out That or Nick's investigation will be influenced by Nick's desire to not have one of their few new successful shows to get tarnished by this kind of scandal. Just because "there's an investigation being done by the company" about this doesn't mean that it's being done in good faith or will ever rock the boat enough to take down the powerful. Just look at the Weinstein and Cosby cases and you can see how these investigations by authorities can be used to protect the abusers rather than the victims. So maybe CB leaking it puts public pressure that would otherwise be absent. Neeksy fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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Oct 19, 2017 03:58
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If you frame it as “he’s santa’s helper who helps make christmas fun” than “he’s santa’s informant, welcome to the panopticon”, it’s less horrifying.
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Dec 11, 2017 08:34
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Disney saw the new Space Jam and thought "let's get in on that", and they already had the "let's get the gang back together but it turns out one of us is actually evil now so we won't appear in the trailer" scripts in the pile they could switch the names around for, sure. Dale getting 'cg-surgery' is weird because they're all CG characters already in this, but I'm guessing that's gonna be the plot point for gadget. There's no way disney would spend money on getting that kind of detail right.
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Feb 17, 2022 06:04
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J2DK posted:At least the meta approach here looks less like an excuse to be dumb and low effort like it seemed to be with Space Jam 2. it kinda looks like poo poo tho they aren't fooling me with chip's model
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Feb 19, 2022 01:49
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Larryb posted:Speaking of, outside of the beginning there was a distinct lack of Gadget in that trailer so I wonder what that’s about they are going to make her the secret girlboss villain, probably given a disguise through that CG-surgery or whatever plot point, and she probably looks like a regular person until the reveal or whatever the gently caress
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Feb 19, 2022 07:33
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Everyone is remaking Food Fight and we're just going to have to live with that.
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Feb 19, 2022 07:38
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Disney's leadership has outrightly stated that they will let the "inspiring content" be their corporate message/response, essentially reducing any and all of the good work being done into a cynical tokenization gimmick for the company to use as a shield for funding right-wing politicians and all that jazz. I genuinely feel sorry for the artists even more than usual because it's a catch-22: fight like hell to get the company to let you put in basic representation only for it to be weaponized, or don't make anything at all because guess who owns all the means of production, publication, and even just monetization lately.
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Mar 20, 2022 07:53
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I get the feeling MaoMao probably was easier for CN to let go of since it wasn't technically one of their in-house shows. As for Disney… well this isn't that unusual given the way things also went for Gravity Falls, either. Though IIRC that was also because production on that one was particularly difficult and faced deadline difficulties behind the scenes. I can't say the same for the others since I've since dropped out of following that stuff too closely.
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Mar 21, 2022 04:32
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My one problem with Jellystone is that they do a lot of digital puppet/squash and stretch for character designs that are literally designed to be easily-drawn and animated goofily. But I'm just not going to escape that in N. American TV.
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Mar 22, 2022 07:34
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Larryb posted:That said, Korra got away with some pretty dark poo poo at times oh poo poo so someone got Leomon'd in an american cartoon? drat
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Apr 6, 2022 20:17
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readingatwork posted:Naruto makes me irrationally angry because it starts off as a meditation on how hard work and gumption can overcome bullshit ideas of family lineage and genetic superiority and then by the end makes Naruto ninja Jesus with deep spiritual and blood ties to the most important figures in the ninja world. yeah that's actually quite a natural response to a huge thematic failure like that, particularly in this day and age with all the problems we face and all that jazz.
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May 5, 2022 23:39
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MorningMoon posted:You're just jealous that Naruto made it in the world with nothing but hard work and a loan of twenty million dollars from his parents. Exactly, I for one love when my escapism reinforces the values that make my reality terrible.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Well, here's Disney's latest offering. also the timing and line readings are really just... not good on like a fundamental level
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readingatwork posted:but instead the writers went with a very tired and very broad cliche I'm just quoting this here now because I get the feeling that this is going to be a theme in this cartoon that wants to replicate a bland newspaper comic as its ideal
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