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meatpimp
May 15, 2004

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If you're going to include the XC90 in the Maintenance advice section, there's:


Be careful when shopping for XC90s. The early (2003-2005, I think) top-of-the-line motor, the T6 twin-turbocharged 6 cylinder, was mated to a GM transmission undersized for the torque the motor put out. This means that the transmission is a 60k-80k replacement item, at a cost of several thousand dollars.

In 2005 Volvo introduced a V8 to the lineup. It isn't plagued by the transmission problems, but as the engine is aging, a nasty problem is starting to show. There is an unlubricated countershaft bearing tucked into the "V," and there have been numerous reports of this bearing failing. The bearing isn't replaceable without an almost complete engine teardown, and that's if you catch it early enough. If you don't, the bad bearing will allow the engine to destroy itself. Volvo found out about this problem, which seems to be exacerbated by water getting into the area, and the fix Volvo came up with was a weep hole in later models. If you have one of the older V8s, DO NOT wash the motor.

The turbocharged 2.5l 5 cylinder is the same motor Volvo's put into tons of cars and, as such, is just about bulletproof.

The 3.2 6 cylinder came out in 2007 and has seemed to be pretty reliable, too.

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May 15, 2004

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2005 XC90 with 2.5T 5 cylinder... I got lazy with an oil change and didn't change the oil filter cartridge gasket and I've got a slight leak. Can I just pull the cartridge again and replace the gasket without a full oil drain?

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LloydDobler posted:

Well, I'd have the oil on hand and a large pan underneath the filter just in case, but I think so. The oil is mostly below the filter on these engines.

Yup, that was my plan... I was just hoping I wasn't going to have 5 quarts siphoning out of the sump or something crazy like that.

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Soon to be a little bit of murderer on my XC90. I've been looking for tires for a set of 18" Atlantis wheels I picked up. I was looking at Tire Rack and the 235/60-18 tires were all $125+, which I was expecting.

What I wasn't expecting, though, was to find a set of 245/55-18 tires at $80 each. They were BFG Radial TA Spec. Now, I'm not too thrilled with BFG in general, but at $80 each, I'm giving them a try. Proper load rating and 600+ treadwear, it's worth a shot.

Oh yeah, what's the "Spec" part? They're an OEM tire for the new Camaro. The XC90 has room for even more bodies in the back.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

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How rare are 5 speed 850 GLTs?

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Splizwarf posted:

Like hen's teeth unless you find one in Canada. The US didn't get a turbo and stick 850. :(

In Europe, though, not so rare.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/2253215034.html Sold before I could get to it. :cry:

If it goes away -- '96 850 GLT 5 speed, 100k miles, asking $2200.

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My XC90 is in the shop for some CPO Warranty repairs (clusterfuck story in a different post), until it's done, I'm driving a 2010 S40 2.4i.

I'm surprised at how much pickup a normally-aspirated 5 cylinder (rated at under 170hp) has. It's not going to tear up the road, but it's far more than I'd expect. The turbo version in this car would be serious fun.

So yeah does "x" have enough power? Depends on the motor / car combo.

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My XC90 just went off CPO on Monday. It's an '05 with the 2.5 turbo motor and 72k miles.

It's been ridiculously solid. Its CPO paid off well, because in the last year I've had control arm bushings, tie rod ends and sway bar end links replaced. I also made a fuss about the angle gear leaking and they ended up replacing the angle gear on their dime.

Other than front end components that are expected with a heavy truck over 5 years old, I've got very few issues to bring up. It seems like the early problems were sorted by 2005.

I liken driving it to a refrigerator... it's about that fun. For utility, though? It's tough to beat. 7 person seating comes in very handy, with the separate rear air conditioning unit a nice benefit for those in the back. The Rear Seat Entertainment package was one of the main reasons we got the vehicle and it's proven immeasurably valuable. The AWD system works unobtrusively... It's just a solid vehicle.

It's also extremely long in the tooth. I looked at the brand new 2011 version on the showroom floor and, except for exterior trim, they are selling virtually the exact same vehicle today.

I see them everywhere around here. They are not unique, exciting or fun. They are excellent vehicles, though.

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Arzakon posted:

:qq: My free S80 has one less cylinder and one more turbo than I thought it did :qq:

That's only one in a series... first there was:

Casao posted:

Is there any reasons I wouldn't want to take an S60 over an 850? I'm not sure of the exact year, but it's well maintained and in much better condition.

Oh, it's actually an S60, not an S70.

Followed by:

Casao posted:

So, turns out what I'd misremembered as an S60 is actually a 2004 S80 with 55k miles on it, and it's in awesome condition. This thing owns.

Then he finds out there's a turbo hiding under the hood. I'm waiting for the next revelation that it's really a WRX.

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astrollinthepork posted:

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/2383618142.html

Gonna check that car out in a little bit. Anything I should look for specifically? I have never dealt with anything other than GMs so I don't know wtf.

I saw that ad yesterday... if I had free time, I would have checked it out. Let us know if you get it.

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Wait, it was running before you mucked with the distributor, right?

PM me pics, I'm in the area.

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Found a 2000 V40 on craigslist. I didn't even know they made those. If it didn't have 140k miles, I'd be very interested... turbo 4 cylinder in a virtually unknown body style is awfully tempting.

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sigtrap posted:

Xovaan is going to spank homosexuals in his Volvo.

Trucker thread's that way ---->

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loving Craigslist. This was posted at 2:27 this afternoon, I called at 2:45 and someone was already on their way to see the car. :(

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1989 VOLVO 760 TURBO 4DR. POWER EVERY THING . UNDER 97000 MILES. FLORIDA CAR WITH NO RUST . CD PLAYER . CAR ALARM. RUNS AND LOOKS GREAT . PRICED TO SELL . $1750.

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Changed the transmission fluid in my '05 XC90 on Friday. Man, that was the easiest transmission fluid change I've ever done. I ran 10 quarts through and the oil that came out changed from dark red to nice cherry red... good for another 75k miles.

Volvo says it's a lifetime fluid, but that's just silly. The same Aisin AF33 gearbox is used in some European Opels and they specify 40k mile changes. Weird.

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Cakefool posted:

Also, are all xc90s auto?

In the US, they are. In other world markets, even Canada, I think, there is a manual version.

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Ley2Lo posted:

Hey team, a friend of mine didn't do his research and is now stuck with his XC90. The transmission (4T65) is showing the telltale signs of imminent failure and he's looking to have it replaced by a shop or buddy. I wont be doing the work but would like to know more about this issue so I was disappointed to find pretty much only this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wAUhg0tx7A YEAH!!!1

Wiki gave me what I interpret as contradictory information. "Various causes have been said, ranging from engine coolant entering the transmission fluid to problems arising from Volvo's modification of the original GM valve body unit inside the transmission, but none have been substantiated. Non-GM sourced transmissions have not suffered unusual failings of this type." I'll have him look at the trans to see if he can find a V or GM somewhere on the case. Maybe we should look for a replacement with the other code on it?

Seems like the general idea is that the 5 cyl. turbo plant is too torquie for this trans. Now at the time, a different vehicle with similar problems was being discussed but maybe this trick could be applied here. A transmission mechanic I worked with was talking about modifying the relief valve(a ball bearing in the valve assembly with a spring behind it used to cushion main line pressure for a smooth shift) by swapping the spring for one with a higher spring rate. This should make shifts firmer by keeping the friction plates from slipping as much (how much though I really don't know). Does anyone have anymore insight into this procedure? Maybe someone could point me in the direction of a healthy discussion on the topic?

I think you're confusing the XC90 Engine/Transmission combos.

The T6 motor is mated with a GM transmission that is a ~70k mile maintenance item. It does not hold up to the motor's torque / vehicle's weight combo.

The 5 Cylinder turbo motor is mated to an Aisin transmission that seems fairly solid. It is used in some Saab and Saturn cars, so that may be where the confusion comes in?

Either way, there is a huge disparity in cost of an older XC90 with a T6 versus any other motor, simply because of the known transmission issue. I've seen T6 cars for under $7k with blown transmissions... and those would be one hell of a deal if you want to do some work.

The thing is that the GM transmission in the T6 is also used in several high-powered GM sedans, and there is some aftermarket support for strengthening the transmission. I've seen a couple people have XC90 transmissions "built up" and this intrigues me. For a couple thousand you, theoretically, could have a very solid twin-turbo six cylinder XC90, which would be very interesting. I don't have the time, though. This is similar to your mechanic's thoughts, but if it were as simple as a spring change, Volvo would have done it long ago. The entire transmission needs beefed up, and then there may be some "shifting comfort" issues.

Either way, T6 transmission suck and cost a bunch of money to get fixed, but Volvo has been giving significant out-of-warranty deals to T6 owners... I'd start a case with Volvo.

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*siren smilie and stuff*

What do I need to know about a '98 V70 XC with 75k miles on it? Tell me quickly before I pick it up tomorrow.

I know there's been no timing belt change, other than that, not a lot of specifics. Was the angle gear a problem with these? Anything else to look for?

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zundfolge posted:

The timing belt/water pump should be done ASAP.

This thread covers the other common issues (and resolutions) pretty well.

Great, yet scary, link. Thanks!

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Arse Porn Cage posted:

I'm dreading having to replace a headlight bulb.

You can have each headlight assembly out in literally less than 5 seconds.

Just pull up the two metal tabs right behind each assembly. That is all that is holding them in. Super clean, nice design.

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