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IRS Goon here. Go ahead and add me to the OP.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2010 06:57 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 16:43 |
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Carlton Banks posted:Yeah I just got that, too bad. On the bright side, I got an offer for a state auditor job this afternoon, so at least that will tide me over until another IRS opportunity comes along Rumor in my office is that we shouldn't expect anything with a hiring date during this fiscal year. In other words, the next RA class would start in October if not later.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2011 20:57 |
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psydude posted:Step 1: Apply for federal job. Step 1a: Forget you ever applied for the federal job. This is the best thing you can possibly do. When I got hired on, I applied in Oct 2009 and was hired in April 2010. This was before the budget cuts, and it still took 6 months. Between sequestration and no annual budget, a lot of the current postings are "we would really like to hire people but we don't know if the funds exist."
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2013 10:02 |
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problematique posted:Patience. After applying for a federal position, the first thing you should do is forget that you ever applied for it.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2013 07:09 |
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dalliance posted:Hey y'all, Review the job app and make sure you're ready to discuss any experience or skill that you marked, especially if your resume doesn't make it clear where that experience came from.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2014 00:24 |
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Man_of_Teflon posted:I applied to this listing a while back and was referred, the app is still showing that as the status. Apply to both. Apply internally and externally if they are listed separately. Even if the same hiring official is listed the apps may be reviewed by different individuals or may have different criteria behind the scenes.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2014 06:42 |
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Out of curiosity, what agency and series would this be?
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2014 18:55 |
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Yes, you can reapply, but I believe you have to apply externally. Whether you have to repeat training is up to management. I've seen it go both ways.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2014 22:27 |
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Doctor Bovine posted:I'm applying/interviewing for federal jobs and have another interview next week. If the past is a good predictor of the future, I will not be extended an offer. However, in the event that I am, how much negotiation is possible when it comes to salary and vacation? The internet tells me that there are only 13 days of vacation annually for the first three years of federal service, which is then bumped to 20 days . I've done both Peace Corps and AmeriCorps -- is it at all possible to leverage that? Don't forget the 13 days of sick leave and federal holidays. It works out to 36 days off and is wonderful.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2014 17:23 |
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Beerdeer posted:I'm in the 6 hour band and it is nice. Especially when they gave us the extra 4 hours at the end of the year. So am I. It's amazing how quickly it adds up, even with the amount of unscheduled leave I've had to take this year (wife had appendicitis, grandma died, etc.). I also work from home three days a week. It's glorious. Now if they would stop cutting my agency's funding (IRS).
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2014 18:09 |
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Just make sure you keep track of the new 1,067 unique username and password combinations you now have.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2015 03:35 |
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Tailored Sauce posted:I am looking for a job where the people I work with don't hinder progress, are open to change and can adapt to the newest technologies. In other words not looking for a job where I'm working with Win2003 or XP and just constant "internal politics." Given that you just described government IT to a T, I'm not sure exactly what you'd expect to accomplish by moving to federal work. The White House has very little say over IT policy when it comes down to it. You're better off looking at how individual agencies run. But expect to not have any real say without being in upper management.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 18:19 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Hey thread, I have a fairly specific pay grade question. I have a JD, but haven't passed a bar- instead I went straight into a PhD program. I'm planning to apply for federal work sometime after I get my degree, in a position that doesn't normally require a legal background. A relative who worked for the Feds a few years back thinks that having a law license translates into some sort of automatic bump in pay grade. Is there such a thing, does it require the degree or a license, and how screwed am I trying to get a federal government job with my JD and social science PhD? I've never heard of a JD pay bump. And I have a JD and passed the bar. I don't do legal work. I've met a lot of other ex-lawyers as well.
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 00:26 |
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Did they ask what you made at your last job? You can, and should, include annual bonuses in the amount you tell them.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2015 23:18 |
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There's no harm in calling them and countering with what your total pay was. Be ready to show proof, and also be ready for them to tell you no. I've seen it go both ways.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2015 05:36 |
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Hackan Slash posted:Basically you just make your salary. You can argue for steps, but that isn't to helpful if your going to get grade soon. E.g if you're on a grade 7-9-12 track I think a 7 step 10 makes less than a 12 step 1 so your "raise" functionally disappears in a year. To stress how true this is, here's how the promotions and pay would go in the above example, following the 2 step promotion rule: GS 7 step 10: 51,437 GS 9 step 5: 54,855 GS 11 step 1: 58,562 GS 12 step 1: 70,192 Basically, even if you can max out your first year salary, that advantage is gone in 2 years. It's still more money, but don't sweat it if the agency says no to the step increase when you hire on. I was actually a GS 5 step 00 for a year. I transferred from a GS 9 position to a GS 5, but with better pay potential (auto ladder to 12, can go up to 15). I made more as a 9 than the GS 5 max, so I was put on pay retention (step 00). In fact, it's been exactly 2 years. I got my 9 back today, but thanks to special salary table 999b, I'm making more this time than I would have in my old position.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2015 05:10 |
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No bonus.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2015 05:42 |
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Depends. Sometimes they only take the first 50 candidates who meet the qualifications. Or you didn't make the BQ list. Or a lot of veterans applied. Or they chose to not hire anyone. Basically there's no way to know.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2015 19:10 |
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Congrats!
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2015 23:51 |
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FOXDIE posted:I'm very interested in the IRS, but unsure if I'd fit. I'm currently a small-team manager at a shipping/receiving warehouse. I deal with numbers a lot, as well as creating/filing reports, communicating with customers, working under deadlines, helping coworkers and subordinates solve problems, things of a general managerial nature. I live in Kentucky, and I see the Covington office often hires clerks, and the duties listed in the job description sounds like things I can handle. I also only have an Associate's degree at the moment, so I'd pretty much have to start at a GS-4 position like the Clerk one. I looked at the positions currently listed. "Clerk" covers a huge variety of positions, and it generally involves doing the same thing over and over again. For example, one of the current positions is in document control. Effectively, you would be receiving large piles of stapled docs, determining what the doc is, assigning a control number to it, stamping that number on every page, and putting that doc into a sorted pile. Your job performance is judged almost entirely by how many docs you file. Sounds riveting, doesn't it? I'm not saying that you shouldn't apply. If you're planning on getting a bachelors and want to work for the IRS, being a clerk will let you apply internally. But you should understand that low-level positions here are typically little more than paper filing. It can be really difficult to get ahead here. I know people who got stuck at GS-7 for years. Going from 7 to 9 can be worse, and getting an 11 seems to require an act of God. But if you can get on a 5-7-9-11-12 ladder (get an IT degree), it is relatively easier to move from 12 to 13 than from 7 to 9. Also be aware that the IRS is very unpopular in congress right now. Our budget gets cut every year. No one is sure when we will actually be able to start back filling positions, and we desperately need to.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2015 05:12 |
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Talk to them as a CYA measure. But what you're working on doesn't sound like the type of situation the statute is intended to cover.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 06:15 |
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The DoD engineering announcements are always worded poorly. In reality, it's a non compete ladder from GS-05 to GS-12 with competitive promotional potential to 15.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 19:39 |
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Rakeris posted:Is that the norm to fill out all that stuff on your first day? When I got hired they just emailed me all the stuff like 2 weeks before my start date and had me bring it in filled out. I hired on with a group of about 250 people. The vast majority did not fill out the paperwork in advance.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 02:09 |
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Massasoit posted:In person interview tomorrow. Be prepared to provide proof of your current pay -- W-2s or a paystub should be sufficient. If it's in an equivalent position (like your worked IT and now you're getting an IT position) and the match is within the paygrade, they will typically match. There's also no reason to really bring this up until you get an offer. If they aren't willing to match, I'd still take job. At GS-7 Step 7 under Rest of US pay amounts, you would make: GS-7 step 7: $47,481. GS-9 step 3: $51,629. GS-11 step 1: $58,562. If you came in at GS-7 step 1, it would be: GS-7 step 1: $39,570. GS-9 step 1: $48,403. GS-11 step 1: $58,562. Year one would hurt, but the year 2 difference isn't that large. By year 3 you're making the same amount either way. TheMadMilkman fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jan 4, 2016 |
# ¿ Jan 4, 2016 21:05 |
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huhu posted:What does this mean: "Not Reviewed, Not Referred"? I feel like it means a computer reviewed my resume and was just like nah. Sometimes they only pull the first 50 that pass the initial automatic screening. You may have just applied too late.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 03:33 |
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Soviet Commubot posted:I know nothing about the Federal hiring process or hiring processes in general, I imagine "Your Name has Been Sent to the Selecting Official" means that HR has determined that I meet the basic requirements and that a recruiter will go through the resumés they received to determine the best qualified candidates to interview, is that about right? Ya, you made the first cut. How many other people made it depends on the individual agency's rules.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 16:06 |
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Did you counter offer? GS 14 Step 1 is what a 3rd year attorney would make in my agency. You're clearly worth more than that.
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2016 21:52 |
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Is it an auto to GS-15 or is it a GS 14 with potential promotion to 15 later?
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2016 01:10 |
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If it follows most other attorney positions, GS-14 is probably the full working level, meaning that if you came in at 11 you would automatically be promoted a pay grade each year until you reach 14. Chances are that there are GS-15 positions, but you have to be a 14 for a year and then apply for the higher grade when one opens. I would still ask just to make sure. If it was an auto promotion to 15, you would go from GS-14 step 6 to GS-15 step 2 next year. There's a "2 step rule" for grade promotions -- take your current pay step, add 2 steps, then find the first step on the new grade that meets or exceeds that number. You can also ask why you were offered a 14 when you were marked as qualified for a 15. I know of numerous people who have pushed this point, myself included. I wasn't successful, but I know people who have been. Nobody's job offer was affected by asking, so why not ask?
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2016 02:37 |
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If you already brought it up and it went up the chain, then pushing the issue probably won't result in anything. Government hiring really is a mess.
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2016 05:14 |
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Spacewolf posted:I've never seen any postings specifically for Schedule A eligibles - USAJobs only lets you choose between "open to everybody" and "Federal employees only", basically... I don't believe that positions are ever listed as Schedule A only, rather you apply for a regular open position as a Schedule A applicant, which allows the agency to hire you without the usual competitive hiring rules. Each agency should have a coordinator that handles this. Source: vague memories of discussions over lunch with a guy who was a Schedule A hire at the same time I was first hired.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 15:27 |
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Phil Moscowitz posted:I got the TO and it refers to the position as "GS-0905-14" but then under the position it says "the full performance level of this position is GS-15." This is my understanding as well, but definitely verify. Losing a few thousand in year 1 is nothing in the long run, and at GS-14 step 6 you would be GS-15 step 2 in year 2 and right on track.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 23:59 |
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So did you take the job Phil?
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2016 00:44 |
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Phil Moscowitz posted:After some more discussion, HR confirmed their offer was 14/1, not 14/6. I spoke to my contacts at the agency and they said they had formally requested the higher amount, but I guess it hadn't been approved by HR yet. So, at their advice, I declined the offer and am now waiting for the request to be approved, when they will presumably send me another offer letter. Good to hear they're looking out for you.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2016 18:05 |
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sullat posted:Where in the country do you live? IRS hires lots of seasonal employees, look out for jobs opening up at their big processing centers. Plus you're considered a federal employee while you're furloughed, making it easier to apply to other positions. I feel for anyone in submission processing, though. I walked through that section today (during an hour-long hunt for a diet Mountain Dew--I failed) and it is stuffed full with rack after rack of returns waiting to be entered.
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# ¿ May 4, 2016 04:18 |
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Dislike button posted:Lmao. This poo poo is so broken. If anyone is applying to the tax compliance officer one, feel free to PM me. I started as one at the IRS before moving into IT.
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# ¿ May 14, 2016 04:45 |
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I hired on with a guy who got a Compliance Officer job in Las Vegas. There's a 90-day wait before you can apply for other positions internally. During those 90 days, the same job opened in Boise, ID, where he was from and wanted to live. So he applied externally and got the job. The area manager was kinda pissed about the whole thing, but couldn't really do anything about it.
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# ¿ May 18, 2016 20:12 |
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Beerdeer posted:Here's a good one. As long as you accept the position as an external hire, rather than an internal hire, everything is fine. This happens more often than you think.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 23:06 |
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I know of some help desk and systems administrator positions that are overnight. They're also highly coveted, because they pay overnight differential and don't involve much actual work.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 03:53 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 16:43 |
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Beerdeer posted:Okay, I transferred and it sucks. I have had debilitating panic attacks every night. If I can get a psychiatrist to say I have an adjustment disorder, do you think I could get a hardship? I'm confused here. I even went and looked at your old posts and I'm still confused. I'm taking it that you took the higher paying position in the same office? Would you want a hardship to a different office, or is it the position in general that's causing panic attacks? How long have you worked for the government?
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2016 02:37 |