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pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
It's people TOO athletic for rugby!

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pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
I guess you could snap it to the back of your own endzone and kick a 120 yarder. It wouldn't show up in the stats but if you snapped it to the back corner of your own end zone that would be an even longer kick, obviously. I think the kicker would have to approach the ball sideways to stay in bounds.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Wonder if it's easier to kick that smaller ball farther.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Wow that is a really well done site.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret

Shangri-Law School posted:

What was so cool about "The Drive" anyway? They didn't even win the Super Bowl that year. Is it more the Legend of John Elway or LOL Cleveland?
Yeah it's both. Might be a little less of "a thing" if Broncos didn't beat them in the AFC Championship again 2 out of the next 3 seasons ("the fumble" and, well it didn't catch on for obvious reasons but I think some people tried to coin it "the gasp", as in they looked tired in the thin Denver air or something). Of course the Broncos got pasted in all 3 of those superbowls.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
I'm sure it felt kind of cool to look huge, too, but yeah lighter/smaller is better and the equipment and style came around. And really, while you def. need pads, players are more worried about joint injuries and concussions than they are the other impact stuff anyway.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Totally true that "the bar" for kicking has been raised a ton in recent years, though a bit of that is probably in the snap/holding also getting better. Not sure when longsnapper became like a specialist position (been at least 20 years I think... used to just be the backup center), but if you watch a real old game it can be surprising how sloppy and slow that part of things looks.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Yeah, that's basically HALVING the miss rate, while simultaneously going for longer field goals.
This is a couple years old now but it drills down on the topic
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/kickers-are-forever/

pangstrom fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Mar 27, 2017

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Some games will be easier/cheaper than others but yeah it won't be a problem. If you're flying in from the UK I'd say go for the Raiders or Patriots or Cowboys game, though any game can be exciting and any game can turn out a dud.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Yeah we've been resilient in the socialist NFL but I reluctantly agree with VB that it's not looking great for the Broncos in the nearish term. Broncos fans aren't Packers fans but they're close so there's a lot of latent demand that will fill the stadium even in dry spells. But unless you want really great seats for the very best game on extremely short notice the first line on your trip cost will be the round-trip UK flight.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
This is from the cheap seats and not addressing anything in particular, BUT:

Not all but a lot of the "lazy" stories to me always read like "dude needed therapy" (or, even better, a decent childhood), which doesn't go over great in manly-man football world. The sport is so sensitive to physical talent that all sorts of broken toys who can't deal with any adversity or regulate their emotions are really great at it, until they aren't. Even a lot of industrious guys have hated/escaped classrooms from the start, and in the NFL that can be a killer.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
It's because it's how it's done in the past / easier to track. Snap count would be better but only other things that come to mind:
-Easier to get head around time of possession since "total"of 60 minutes is known
-Doubt this is actually a factor but TOP is probably more likely to tell the story they want to tell (since winning teams generally play slower later in the game)

Bigger picture, teams actually score a little more in the first half than the second... at least some of that is the winning team killing the clock, but I've never seen good evidence that defenses getting tired more than offenses causes worse defense later in games.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
If Blake Bortles can't get on the return flight because he lost his passport, check Coughlin's pockets. You don't want your country to be stuck with a Blake Bortles.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Beyond being plays the coaches are confident in / the players can execute, the other aspect to the "script" plays is that sometimes they are meant to answer specific questions about the defensive scheme. So ideally you figure out "oh well if they're going to do that then plays X Y and Z would exploit that".

Supposedly. Sometimes when coaches talk about how clever their organization is about stuff like this and then you watch them challenge plays where the call was obviously correct or mismanage the clock in ways 12-year-olds playing Madden would never do it makes you wonder.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Yeah you would probably just go to earpieces if you were looking to cheat. Doesn’t seem like it would be worth much even if you could avoid getting caught, not sure the benefits would outpace the logistical pain. Stuff like that would even have to be hidden from most players or you’re in trouble come free agency etc.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
The wild-but-plausible-to-me cheating rumor that used to go around was that the radios sometimes mysteriously stopped working in away games before critical plays. Maybe they're just crappy systems or were back then, though, I don't know.

Aside-on-aside here but a couple years ago Microsoft was really pushing their surface tablets on NFL sidelines, paying for commentators to say spots during games, etc. I wish I could remember the specific game but basically both teams' tablets (or their wireless network or something else) had failed and the commentators were awkwardly going through the motions of selling their amazing capabilities over shots of frustrated assistant coaches frantically ditching them for paper.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Lol. Was futilely googling to try to find the surface debacle game I had seen (it wasn't Patriots/Broncos), and evidently Jay Cutler called them "knockoff iPads" in some interview. $400 million for this kind of exposure seems a little steep.

(lots of current coworkers love their surface pros, for what that's worth)

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Wow, that's not much (by NFL player standards, I mean).

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pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Yeah, there are pass rush guys who line up as DEs if you're playing a 4-3 and OLBs if you're playing a 3-4. I'm actually glad people are starting to call them EDGE (or anything, really) because it is annoying to say something like "3-4 LB or 4-3 DE" about the DeMarcus Ware type of players.

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