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One of the things most people kind of hate about college, anecdotally, is the lovely classes they make you take freshman year to 'broaden your horizons'. Maybe it's just because I go to a liberal arts college, but there's a lot of resentment if you get stuck with a lovely class in something you don't want to study. I got pretty lucky in that I got to take my two classes with amazing professors. One was a semester all about Homer, and learning that much about the Iliad and the Odyssey from a cultural and historical and literary perspective kinda owned, but the other one was just as good. It was about arguing, and the professor chose pieces not typically studied in higher ed. He introduced me to Gary Smith of Sports Illustrated. He's kind of unique in that he's won the National Magazine Award an unprecedented four times. There's a great listing of his articles on his wiki page and anyone who likes good writing in general will love him. He's probably well known to anyone that reads SI, but I never really read it cover to cover and now anytime he writes something I make sure to pick it up. Tangent aside, everyone should read Joe Posnanski(obviously), the sports stuff by John Updike and Michael Smith, and despite his hatred for blogs, Buzz Bissinger is another really good writer.
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Tavarin posted:It might just be easier to make a list of good journalists. It'd be a lot smaller, too. No one really wants to remember all the Plashckes and Mariottis to avoid through all the sports towns.
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Aug 10, 2010 22:44
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:e: Silly me, for forgetting one of the more memorable pieces he's ever written. Read this first. Yeah. And if you want to read the piece that got both Gary Smith and Joe Posnanski into sportswriting really, Hub Fans Bid Kid Adieu is the one everyone should read first(although no sports article is going to ever be as good as it). I know I mentioned Updike, but goddamn, I went and read it again and that's just gorgeous craft. Ten Cent Beer Night is another classic, and is actually more relevant to me understanding the history of Cleveland now in the wake of LeBron leaving(it is not written in comic sans unfortunately).
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Aug 11, 2010 18:16
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Rick Reilly wrote a really lovely article about a friend of the family who used to play ice hockey with my brothers. The story according to Rick was that the kid, and any guy who play field hockey, are ruining the game and have the potential to kill a high school girl or something and that the kids and parents were assholes for doing it. What he failed to get in his journalism is that Brad, the kid, was one of the nicest people I've ever met(and politest and all those good adjectives), and that his family were immigrants from South Africa, and field hockey had been a generational and proud thing for them, BUT NO, Rick has to write his stupid baiting, lovely article demeaning a 15 year old kid.
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Aug 13, 2010 21:28
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R.A. Dickey posted:Oh completely, I still check it every so often out of habit mostly, but its terrible now. The writing is uninteresting, the theme weeks are stupid, and Daulerio just sucks, he seems like he would always be the most annoying guy in the room. Since Leitch left, the site and the writers have this strange, almost elitist attitude that really comes through in the writing and what they cover. The Farve dick pic thing really bothered me. Besides the strange obsession with posting an athlete's penis on the interweb, the complete lack of standards and ethics displayed we're actually pretty shameful and the non defense and utter flaunting of it didn't help. I don't really read Deadspin, but I have to imagine its rise as the dedicated paparazzi/tabloids of the sports industry is something that will be here to stay, unfortunately. Well, tabloids more than the Post/Daily News/etc. Other than that, it's going to be no different than TMZ or PerezHilton but those places aren't exactly positive beacons in the news world so I don't really know.
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Aug 13, 2010 23:26
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do old people not know how to use google because OPS and WHIP aren't hard to figure out and you could do it with a slide rule even. long live felix gently caress the haters
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Nov 19, 2010 21:29
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R.D. Mangles posted:Really? Maybe it's just because the only Reilly I've ever read is from his last few years at the back of SI, but I can't imagine that guy writing anything that isn't a festival of hacky bullshit on one of three topics: About the second thing- I think I might have already posted this but he literally called this kid my brothers played hockey with an rear end in a top hat for playing field hockey in Massachusetts a while back when the kid was 15. No highlight that the kid was from South Africa and was a recent immigrant and that field hockey was pretty big in his family. Also this kid was probably the politest kid ever and was super nice to everyone. Reilly also called his parents assholes. In sum, Reilly is a big bitch. Aye Doc posted:the Steigerwald who does Penguins games isn't John, thankfully. his name is Paul! I was trying to find out if they're brothers and I do believe I've found my answer: And I'm sorry but I could not stop laughing when this happened because of how bizarre it was for a pro sportscaster to say this.
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Apr 21, 2011 22:17
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Mornacale posted:Why did he call them all assholes? morestuff posted:Here's the context. Yeah my bad I should have made the context clear. He was a pretty decent sized kid playing field hockey with girls. Still, it was lazy, lazy journalism to just point out how guys were playing field hockey and then say that there parents should get hit in the nuts, ignoring all of the issues as to why Brad played field hockey. He also played ice hockey and broke the glass with a slap shot during practice once so I'm not sure I would want to play field hockey against him either but I wouldn't call a fifteen year old kid out over it.
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Apr 21, 2011 22:43
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Again, the main thing that people were upset about at the time was that it was such a ridiculous thing to say about Brad because anyone who knew the kid knew that he is literally polite and nice to a ridiculously comic degree even. It's like calling Stan Musial a bad person or a raci-oh gently caress
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Apr 22, 2011 00:18
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Simmons isn't bad and I really love good long-form journalism but there's probably not a writer that they could get that could outdo Posnanski and Smith for SI unless they dredge up John Updike and tell him to write purely sports articles, so I'll probably go to the SI Vault or Joe's blog more. That said, I hope it does well enough to continue because that preview article is probably in the 90th percentile of sports journalism, as sad as that is.
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May 3, 2011 23:38
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I've liked everything on the site so far. It's another place to get good semi-long form journalism and that's pretty great in my book.
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Jun 9, 2011 16:23
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Zifnab posted:On the plus side, he is literally never right and I look forward to Ichrio hitting .350 from here on out IIRC he is a notoriously slow starter and this season is (hopefully) just an extension of his normal "i need four months to hit like i'm the beast that i am" trait
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Jun 15, 2011 01:54
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MorningView posted:a what now it is a good pooping magazine, though, you have to admit
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Sep 22, 2011 01:00
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i will say that i watch a lot less baseball than i did pre-sabermetrics but that's mainly because the mariners suck so goddamn bad
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Sep 22, 2011 21:39
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Crazy Ted posted:I feel like there should be a website called LOOK AT THIS loving DAN SHAUGHNESSY COLUMN sort of like this? although i'm not sure it's as hostile as you want(or shank deserves)
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Sep 28, 2011 06:26
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Poz has a good point in that Paterno still has done tons of good things for the community and we shouldn't treat him as some sort of inhuman all around monster, but I'm not sure anyone is saying that so he's kind of strawmanny in this regard.
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Nov 12, 2011 03:35
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Atlanta is a loving awful sports town but that has nothing to do with deserving to win anything
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Jan 12, 2012 00:48
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Medical Sword posted:If someone is prone to breaking commitments and being dishonest those are character traits worth knowing about No, they're really not, unless you're a party involved. seiferguy posted:Gonna leave this here: 'dh' apparently stands for 'dinger hitter' now i guess?
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Feb 3, 2012 05:44
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Question for baseball people: is there a consensus on Lincecum's delivery at all? Wasn't there a big hubbub about how his dad was a mechanic and that his athletic delivery puts less stress on the arm than most windups? And now that article says that he's a ticking time bomb. What gives? I remember the dude on Hardball Times who used to analyze pitching motions was in love with Lincecum, so I don't get it.
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Mar 24, 2012 23:20
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SporkOfTruth posted:I'd like to encourage people to ask myself or Leokitty for information if you're honestly interested in Writing Stuff for YPS. I still have a notepad of ideas for themes, etc. to cover. this is just to say by barry lamar barry I have dingered the balls that were in the strikezone and which you were probably saving for jeff kent Forgive me they were delicious so sweet and so low
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May 2, 2012 04:23
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Tae posted:Actually, he was reminded in Washington one day by a fan. It was hilarious, and he had to be held back. Please tell me there's more to this.
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Jun 26, 2012 18:43
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Exactly. Y'all should read this for some context. Livestrong basically is a sponsorship and bracelet-selling vehicle that makes Lance Armstrong money and makes Americans feel good about cancer. I was gonna post that. Good article. Mr. Funny Pants posted:I understand that. But on a day-to-day, interaction with the press and most fans basis, he's not. That that might be an act is believable, but with Bonds, you never had to guess, the guy was a prick to just about everyone just about all the time. Some of the stuff about him in Game of Shadows is cartoonish. He rubbed and took the precious roids, His muscles grew robust; He knew no more that he was ignored, Nor that his legacy dust. He glanced along the awful prose, And this request of words With but a look. What Plaschke Writes is a piece of poo poo!
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Aug 31, 2012 20:40
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the mvp should go to barry bonds every year until they make up for colluding against him
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Oct 3, 2012 06:47
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i loving loved yelling at randy winn that time
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Oct 28, 2012 06:03
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Ratedargh posted:That's probably a good call. Any top suggestions on who to follow in case I don't already? I would check out Longreads. It's not purely sports related but there tends to be a fair amount of sports stuff.
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Jan 28, 2013 04:45
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i really don't see what the big issue is when all folks want to do is use the word "rape" for one bad context only. there are so many other words at least like a million of them
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Mar 21, 2013 02:56
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uublog posted:Rape is an actual thing that happens to people and it is horribly cruel and violent. Why the gently caress should anyone be literally equating something to the worst experience in a lot of people's lives, just as a dumb loving joke? i don't know if this was directed at me but i was agreeing with the people who say don't use that word because there are tons of other words to use instead and that we should keep the word rape for actual rape
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Mar 21, 2013 22:09
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That Deadspin article is top journalism.
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Apr 26, 2013 02:43
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how the gently caress does chris broussard go to oberlin and come out with those views 
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May 4, 2013 04:59
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hcreight posted:Michelle Malkin is an Oberlin grad. She really ought to win that title. holy poo poo i had no idea wow
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May 4, 2013 18:35
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FuzzySkinner posted:I kind of feel that attempting to promote hockey below the mason-dixon line is idiotic. Which again, is half of the US. Like, in my perfect NHL? There would be exactly two "southern" teams, one being in LA, and the other being in Tampa Bay. The Nashville Predators own and we'll keep them, Thanks
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Jul 29, 2013 08:58
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gary Smith is possibly the best magazine- first writer in history by acclamation. he is great. speaking of Josh leuke, too, Smith had an article about sexual assault that is great: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008297/1/index.htm
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Apr 29, 2014 15:34
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i'm gonna fuckin die
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Aug 1, 2014 06:22
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please put that on my tombstone when i die
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Aug 1, 2014 06:25
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wow
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Aug 10, 2014 21:46
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i love smoking football
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Nov 13, 2014 10:23
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would love to have that bears one
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Jan 10, 2015 09:33
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does the nbc have room for basketball? kinda curious how they'd do the playoffs at the same time as the nhl
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May 11, 2015 03:46
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MourningView posted:The exile the NHL to wherever they needed to to make room but they're not gonna outbid ESPN anyway so I dunno that it matters ya i mean they'd love to have the nba instead but i would think a lot of that stuff is in their huge contract
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i actually think the upshot is very well written, which makes me wonder how much good editing silver had at the times
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