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Cavelcade posted:It's just, the comic really did used to be this good, and today's strip is one of the worst webcomics I've ever seen. I'm baffled by it. I really do think Mind Cage and Covid broke Tom...but maybe I just have to believe that? I dunno. I think the Jeanne resolution is the most satisfying one in the comic, I really did enjoy that while reading and it felt like a natural way to use things like "Kat sees the ether differently to others" and "Annie is pretty clever about dealing with strange situations". I watched some of the new stream Tom put up on Twitch and he mentioned that he has a very vague outline of what should needs to happen in the whole story, but that events are only fleshed out one chapter at a time as he gets to them, which probably explains some of the wildly variable quality chapter to chapter. But still it doesn't explain everything, and it doesn't feel like he's bored or tired as such, considering he was looking out for a new publisher, created a stream, etc. I'm thinking maybe he just lost an editor or someone to bounce ideas off of, and now he's prequel trilogy George Lucas with no one around to tell him his ideas are dumb. He did at least use to have an editor, but I don't know if he does now.
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To be clear this isn’t “tell the cult to knock it off” it’s “tell the cult to properly obey their messiah, Kat.” There has never, even a single time, been a confirmation that Kat having a cult is a problem actually - that she shouldn’t wield absolute power over the body and souls of robots with a vague and aimless teenage disinterest. Instead, the problem is when those robots make decisions about how that relationship works or what it means to them, instead of explicitly asking her to make all decisions.
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Didn't Tom get married and move to New York or something a while ago? That would probably line up with him losing/changing editors.
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Yes, it also coincided with covid, he mentioned in a retrospective that he had moved recently when the lockdowns started.
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Brightman posted:Didn't Tom get married and move to New York or something a while ago? That would probably line up with him losing/changing editors. Note Block posted:My baseless speculation is that when Tom moved to the US and got married, he lost his british powers, and thus, the plot.
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Brightman posted:Didn't Tom get married and move to New York or something a while ago? That would probably line up with him losing/changing editors. Tom is married to another webcomic author and they have a little baby now. It's funny how there's some discussion over in the general webcomics thread about how Corny, the author for Never Satisfied said they were probably not coming back to that webcomic. The reasons he gave is he's a drastically different person from who he was when he started Never Satisfied 10 years prior, and frankly he hadn't planned more than some broad stuff out and kept writing in stuff on impulse that made the whole thing more complicated to reconcile. Creating long-running epic fantasy stories as your first project as a dumb college kid turns out to be a pretty huge personal life investment if you're going to keep it going!
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Bleck posted:feels pretty obvious that they wouldn't have signs saying Please Don't gently caress The Robots if somebody hadn't hosed a robot at least once You'll find the actual rule was "Please stop loving the robots, Diego", but then a student named Diego enrolled long after Diego passed away, and it just made things too confusing. Especially after he asked if he had to gently caress a robot first to comply with the rule.
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Oxxidation posted:I can’t remember when I’ve last seen a story so disinterested in itself I feel like if we hadn't just changed the title this would go hard. I hate that UBI doesn't exist because I feel like there's definitely a reality where he didn't have to worry about Patreon support dropping off while trying to support a new child and he would've either taken a significant hiatus or simply dropped it entirely and both of those would've been more dignified deaths than this rolling in the mud poo poo.
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Hell yeah this might have been peak Gunnerkrigg.
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I'm half-sad, half-lol-lets-run-this-poo poo-into-the-ground
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rudecyrus posted:I'm half-sad, half-lol-lets-run-this-poo poo-into-the-ground The comic is pretty  as far as train wrecks go. So there's not much entertainment to be had unfortunately.Robot, shadow and the seraphs are having their designated turn exiting the comic. With their storyline being resolved abruptly and without fanfare. And we're just going to move on to the next in line after this. Bonus points for creating the perfect solution to Kat's psychopomp problem. The one that was an issue for at least a couple of pages I guess? Not that it felt like a problem that had any stakes behind it anyways. Nothing feels that way anymore. People got excited cause Robot had one of the more interesting storylines and some of the panels looked cool. But anything that was good before that gets focus now just turns into this. And that's the comic now. JuniperCake fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Apr 16, 2024 |
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We'll solve your problems the way we solve all our most challenging problems, Robot: off-screen.
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Tiny Myers posted:We'll solve your problems the way we solve all our most challenging problems, Robot: off-screen. Place your bets on if robot's apology will be seen or not.
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Oh, that's why the main cast has been missing. It's not their turn yet to have their perfunctory moment in the spotlight before exiting stage left.
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i'm shocked, shocked that everything with that seems to be fully resolved now, let's not dwell on it let's instead dwell on quote:Shadow has some babysitting to do.
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Apr 17, 2024 08:19
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Weird theory: what if this woman is Omega?
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All that build up for a wet fart of a denial.
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A loud, deep sigh. Well. I'm glad another long-running plotline, possibly the longest running plotline in the comic, has been wrapped up in a montage during a side-story of a side-story, to no consequences and with no moral, message, or impact. Neat. Now to get back to what's really important: What's Lana and Jerrick up to??
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Tiny Myers posted:Weird theory: what if this woman is Omega? That would kind of make sense at this point. Has anyone even mentioned Zimmy's name is "Zeta" in the comic before?
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Not in ages
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Rotten Red Rod posted:God I kinda just don't care who she is anymore  Ironically, at the start of this chapter that was the most interesting question to me!
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Hell yeah let's make this chapter as boring as possible. "You knew just what to ask" was "I want to see" and "why don't you have a new body yet?". Wow Annie could never have arrived here without this non-character. Nuns with Guns posted:That would kind of make sense at this point. Has anyone even mentioned Zimmy's name is "Zeta" in the comic before? Only the robots maybe? I can't remember if the Shadow Men did. Her being Omega is too interesting, so it either isn't the case, or is the case so it can get ruined lol.
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Just watch Tom reveal that she's actually Alpha, Zimmy's long-lost sister or some bullshit.
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It's probably just Shell.
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I've been keeping up with the comic for years now, and I noticed this thread so I've come here to ask...like what the gently caress is even going on? For real, what is going on? The pacing on this comic is so weird that I don't even remember what happened 3 pages ago, and there's updates 3 times a week, so it's not like the posting is slow. But I have utterly lost the ability to keep up with what is supposed to be happening in the comic. Wasn't the Court building some kind of teleport alternate universe thing?
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Jenx posted:I've been keeping up with the comic for years now, and I noticed this thread so I've come here to ask...like what the gently caress is even going on? For real, what is going on? The pacing on this comic is so weird that I don't even remember what happened 3 pages ago, and there's updates 3 times a week, so it's not like the posting is slow. The thread's current leading theory is something happened during Covid that burnt Tom out, that the reaction to the Mind Cage being so negative killed his desire to work on this project and it's floundering, or one of several other explanations for why one of the best long-running webcomics has in the past few years become an incoherent mess.
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Yes, trying to recap: The Court has this sort of technomagic oracle object or entity called Omega that makes scarily-true predictions. It predicted Annie would die falling off the bridge (back at the start of the comic) but Kat prevented that with time-travel paradox robot birds and the aid of literal norse goddesses. The Court wanted to trap Coyote to use him as an Ether-battery. They failed and shrugged and went back to Plan B, which is building a pocket dimension that has no Ether/magic because it's so unpredictable and unmeasurable, scientifically speaking, and they hate it. Going to this pocket dimension will make everyone retroactively forget you. Only select people are invited. Coyote, meanwhile, was playing a fantastic prank on everyone, including himself, because he wanted to know what it felt like to die. A part of his consciousness still was alive and kicking inside Jerrek/Loup and came out to say hi when Kat and Annie trapped Loup. Kat and Annie trapped Loup with Robot's help, who in a fake-out to the audience tricked Loup into lowering his guard. But anyway that wasn't 100% required because Loup was changed by the power of Lana's Love and came clean to Annie anyway. Anyway, the whole thing was orchestrated by Coyote, because he wanted Annie and Ysengrin to fall in love with each other and then force Annie to kill Loup/Ysengrin/Coyote because the drama would be amusing. Annie didn't fall in love with Ysengrin. It's not super clear that Ysengrin didn't fall in love with her? Anyway, Loup fell in love with Lana, which was not part of Coyote's plan, and that angered him so much he ate Lana in one gulp. Loup flipped out and went to fight Coyote. The two kept rolling around wrestling and fighting and accidentally landed on Zimmy who activated her reality-warping powers and engulfed the entire Court, Forest, and possibly the entire physical world? Annie has faffed around presumably trying to reach Kat or idk, it's not clear? She reached Kat, and got distracted by a new-human who looks like Zimmy and kept being teased to be Zimmy being-confused-and-thinking-she-is-someone-else again, but turns out she was mistaken. We wasted who knows how many chapters in this. Oh yeah and the Annie Must Become A Psychopomp plot point was kicked down the road again. She totally will be the psychopomp for the new humans to help Kat, but in the future, no pressure. One random new human died but the ether creatures that arbit reality or whatever gave Annie a freebie and helped escort him to the afterlife. Annie found out about Robot's cult of Kat. This was bad but also not that bad, they are treating him like he was a naughty boy and has learned his lesson. Kat's cult continues to not be taken seriously by Annie and Kat, but we are not supposed to be bothered by this. Every single plot point here keeps being dangled and dropped repeatedly, killing the momentum of the pacing over and over. isasphere fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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apart from "boxbot" what's the funniest answer to who this person actually is. personally i think it would be a hoot if omega's just walking around as a newman for funsies
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Tony
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Part of me wants to say Coyote. I mean, it would be really infuriating as a reader to have Coyote just right there all along, but I imagine it would be loving hilarious to him.
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Hetty.
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Surma
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Another Annie?
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Tiny Myers posted:Tony Tiny
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I'm guessing Jerrek for maximum pain
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Comedy Doctor Disaster option.
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