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What's the current fan favorite delta printer that I could build myself over a weekend? I'm looking at sub-$1000 if possible and I have access to a laser cutter and my UM2 for any machined parts.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:07
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Rostock Max v2 is the only one worth looking at.
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Apr 21, 2015 23:07
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It looks like that's a full kit. Is that really all you need for a thousand bucks? Seems like it's well-received and it's like half of what I thought it'd cost to get something decent. Is everything else just crap at that price point or is this that good? I was looking at the Zortrax M200 which seems like a pretty capable machine, but it's twice the price. Jeez I'm talking like I'm about to buy one.
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Apr 22, 2015 00:25
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If I know my lore, I'm pretty sure insta would recommend the Z18.
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Apr 22, 2015 00:49
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The Rostock Max v2 is pretty nice for the price point. I was hoping to find something a bit cheaper that would let me print out a decent set of parts and maybe utilize this $200 Home Depot gift card hahaha.
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Apr 22, 2015 00:54
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Why does it have to be a delta?
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Apr 22, 2015 16:08
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Is this a particular build or anything? Iv'e been considering the idea of printing a 2nd printer, but wouldn't really know where to start
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Apr 22, 2015 16:36
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DaVinci 1.0 is $350 delivered from Amazon right now, I'm comfortable with flashing to bypass their filament restrictions. Any reason to not get this as a first printer? http://www.amazon.com/XYZprinting-Vinci-1-0-Printer-Grey/dp/B00T472C2Y
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Apr 22, 2015 17:09
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w00tmonger posted:Is this a particular build or anything? Iv'e been considering the idea of printing a 2nd printer, but wouldn't really know where to start http://reprap.org/wiki/Rostock There are several different printers that you can print out there right now, a couple standard styles and a couple Deltas. Lots of different custom parts as well. meatpimp posted:DaVinci 1.0 is $350 delivered from Amazon right now, I'm comfortable with flashing to bypass their filament restrictions. Any reason to not get this as a first printer? The DaVinci is supposed to be decent, and it seems like there is a fair market for aftermarket mods for it.
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Apr 22, 2015 17:35
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I got the DaVinci 2.0 (dual print head) and after modding it to use Repetier and open source firmware stuff it is excellent for the price. Just be aware, the company who makes them works harder and harder to make new revisions un-moddable. If you get one from Amazon it might not be modifiable now or ever, or it might be fine. If you can't mod it to use the good firmware, you are stuck buying their expensive filament carts with DRM on them. If you try to cheat the DRM, they can remotely disable the printer permanently, which I'm sure isn't legal but they do it anyways because they're based out of Thailand and give no fucks.
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Apr 22, 2015 17:46
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meatpimp posted:DaVinci 1.0 is $350 delivered from Amazon right now, I'm comfortable with flashing to bypass their filament restrictions. Any reason to not get this as a first printer? I'm not seeing 350 on this end. newegg had it 350 the other day though
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Apr 22, 2015 18:11
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A Yolo Wizard posted:I'm not seeing 350 on this end. newegg had it 350 the other day though Huh, that's funny. I was going to say "Oh, it just shows the $450 for the blue one, if you switch to grey it's $350" because that's what it was for me earlier and I thought it was really weird. Now they're both $450 though, go figure. Dynamic pricing, I guess.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:25
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Don't support a company that attempts to be more restrictive than MakerBot. The Rostock Max V2 is a pretty awesome printer, but my next printer looks like it will be a Lulzbot. They're a lot more expensive, though.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:45
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Geirskogul posted:Don't support a company that attempts to be more restrictive than MakerBot. This. I don't know about the quality of davinci's but I strongly encourage people not to support such a shady business model.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:46
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Zero VGS posted:I got the DaVinci 2.0 (dual print head) and after modding it to use Repetier and open source firmware stuff it is excellent for the price. CommieGIR posted:The DaVinci is supposed to be decent, and it seems like there is a fair market for aftermarket mods for it. It's worth a shot (and yeah, looks like it's back to $450 at Amazon now, weird). I can't get into a discussion about the ethical nature of 3d printer manufacturers. If you eat food or use other electronics, you're supporting things much worse than DRMing some filament.
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Apr 22, 2015 19:06
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deimos posted:Why does it have to be a delta? It doesn't necessarily have to be a delta printer. I just already have a cartesian and was considering something different to build for my girlfriend. I'm open to suggestions!
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Apr 22, 2015 19:22
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meatpimp posted:I can't get into a discussion about the ethical nature of 3d printer manufacturers. If you eat food or use other electronics, you're supporting things much worse than DRMing some filament. Pretty much, hence why I'm not too hurt by my Makerbot and the people saying they are terrible. It does what my company wants, and has an Enterprise level support that they wanted.  nolen posted:It doesn't necessarily have to be a delta printer. I just already have a cartesian and was considering something different to build for my girlfriend. I'm open to suggestions! http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:41967 CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Apr 22, 2015 |
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Apr 22, 2015 19:22
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Geirskogul posted:Don't support a company that attempts to be more restrictive than MakerBot. MickRaider posted:This. I don't know about the quality of davinci's but I strongly encourage people not to support such a shady business model. It isn't shady, it is just a simple DRM-enforced razor-and-razorblade model. Like Keurig and those new DRM K-cups. Anyhoo, my point is if you mod the thing to take other filaments, you're not supporting their business model. They're probably breaking even or taking a loss in fact. Still, you have to figure out if you can mod whatever version you wind up with: https://github.com/luc-github/Repetier-Firmware-0.92
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Apr 22, 2015 20:41
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meatpimp posted:I can't get into a discussion about the ethical nature of 3d printer manufacturers. If you eat food or use other electronics, you're supporting things much worse than DRMing some filament. Sets a bad precedent for something that's an emerging technology. Zero VGS posted:It isn't shady, it is just a simple DRM-enforced razor-and-razorblade model. Like Keurig and those new DRM K-cups. MickRaider fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Apr 22, 2015 |
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Apr 22, 2015 21:14
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FYI: I'm running Fry's generic brand PLC through my Makerbot. No issues other than having to turn off the automatic jam detection.
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Apr 22, 2015 22:57
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Just be aware that technically voids your warranty on the smart extruder. But hey it's probably cheaper if you can get it to print more than 10kg on one smart extruder
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Apr 23, 2015 15:38
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MickRaider posted:Just be aware that technically voids your warranty on the smart extruder. But hey it's probably cheaper if you can get it to print more than 10kg on one smart extruder Its $100 for a new one, they give you a $75 credit when you return the old one, warranty or not. But this is part of why I am building my own printer, the Makerbot is my companies, not mine, and the company is not averse to spending $100 on 'Consumables'. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Apr 23, 2015 16:00
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CommieGIR posted:Its $100 for a new one, they give you a $75 credit when you return the old one, warranty or not. I love that a $100 extruder is considered a consumable to someone.
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Apr 23, 2015 19:33
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IndianaZoidberg posted:I love that a $100 extruder is considered a consumable to someone. When the company is one that also maintains a CNC machine and gigantic garment cutting machine that regularly needs consumable parts that cost thousands of dollars? Yes, $100 is 'consumable'
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Apr 23, 2015 20:15
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IndianaZoidberg posted:I love that a $100 extruder is considered a consumable to someone. Many of these companies do not take desktop 3D printers seriously (rightfully so) because they "only" cost $2500. The motor controller for a single axis of their equipment costs more than the entire makerbot printer.
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Apr 23, 2015 20:23
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insta posted:Many of these companies do not take desktop 3D printers seriously (rightfully so) because they "only" cost $2500. The motor controller for a single axis of their equipment costs more than the entire makerbot printer. Perhaps they should invest on objets instead?
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Apr 23, 2015 21:12
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Build volume, purchase price, price of consumables, etc. A desktop printer is a fairly easy no-brainer, but even at my company where we target only about one year of use out of a desktop printer and treat a $100 part like a consumable, we still take the time to find what fits the need. If anything, leasing a dimension 1200 or a Fortus 250 might be an easier jump.
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Apr 24, 2015 04:41
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I bought a Robo 3D R1 before thinking to look for this thread, did I gently caress up? Amazon had them for $800 and I thought the build dimensions and the all-metal extruder tip were good selling points. EDIT: I printed a whistle and a spool holder that fits over the top of the printer with the sample material and will be printing the Tower of Pi this evening out of T-glase (after spending a few prints earlier this week on making little buttons and calibration circles with the material until I got the settings right). EDIT #2: T-Glase settings (using the Matter Control software that came with the printer only with this material, for some reason Simplify 3D can't handle T-glase settings)! Extruder temp = 228 Bed Temp = 62, no tape or hairspray; T-glase seems to hop right off of it as layers build up but sticks to the heated glass for some weird reason. Speed = 15mm/s for all moves (perimeter, infill, etc.) 1st Layer thickness = .1mm All other layer thicknesses = .15mm Extruder diameter setting = .5mm (actual is .4mm), multiplier set at 1.1 100% infill if doing something complex, otherwise check the Vase/Spiral Vase feature and let it run. <--still testing this setting to see if it actually accomplishes anything. Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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Apr 24, 2015 21:30
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Holy crap 15mm/s is insanely slow. You shouldn't have issues at 60mm/s with the robo. It's perfectly serviceable and the latest models seem to have nice print quality. That said it's basically just a prusa i3 with a lid. So you could have saved some money building it yourself, but then you'd have to build it yourself
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Apr 24, 2015 23:52
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Davinci 1.0a showed up yesterday. Flashed repetier firmware with no issues. Took a little bit to get the configurations close, had some slicer numbers wrong, but last print of yesterday was nearly perfect. 20mm cube that's nearly spot-on dimensionally, is nice and firm with only a little bit of a saggy bottom. This could be fun, I hope it's reliable. Is there a "best" place to buy filament (or best filament to get)?
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Apr 25, 2015 11:35
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MickRaider posted:Holy crap 15mm/s is insanely slow. You shouldn't have issues at 60mm/s with the robo. The manufacturer's page gives a print range of 15mm-30mm for T-Glase, so I started off slow until I've got a few prints done. This isn't PLA or ABS, man. meatpimp posted:Davinci 1.0a showed up yesterday. Flashed repetier firmware with no issues. Took a little bit to get the configurations close, had some slicer numbers wrong, but last print of yesterday was nearly perfect. 20mm cube that's nearly spot-on dimensionally, is nice and firm with only a little bit of a saggy bottom. Depends on the filament you're after. Everywhere I've looked has had basically the same price for the same filament (Amazon.com, Matterhackers, that Global sample site, etc.). I've got some PET+ coming in some time next week for some actual models I'm going to print (water-phobic and "engineering grade" supposedly, we'll see).
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Apr 25, 2015 15:33
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Wade Wilson posted:Depends on the filament you're after. Everywhere I've looked has had basically the same price for the same filament (Amazon.com, Matterhackers, that Global sample site, etc.). Just looking for straight ABS, is there a difference in brand, or is it just a "buy on price" type of product?
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Apr 25, 2015 17:28
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meatpimp posted:Just looking for straight ABS, is there a difference in brand, or is it just a "buy on price" type of product? There is definitely a difference between brands. ABS is made up of 3 polymers, and the ratios can vary heavily. Different mixes can print much nicer than others. It's also important for the dimensions of the filament to remain constant for consistent prints. If it gets too thick, or too thin the extruder doesn't deposit the amount of plastic it thinks it is. Bad dimensional accuracy can also cause jamming. Poor quality filament can also contain air pockets, or high water content which can lead to the exturder sputtering which leads to poor prints again. You can bake out water, but can't do anything about air.
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Apr 25, 2015 20:00
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Aurium posted:You can bake out water, but can't do anything about air. I'll have you know printing in a vacuum is the next big thing, just see my kickstar- 
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Apr 25, 2015 20:06
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meatpimp posted:Just looking for straight ABS, is there a difference in brand, or is it just a "buy on price" type of product? Yeah, the quality between brands can be pretty wide open, though I haven't really noticed any weird high prices for quality. Usually makes a difference of about $5-$10 for a spool. There is some no-scent ABS at MakerGeeks that looks interesting that I'm thinking about getting, but the colors are limited (if you don't care about the smell, there's all kinds of cool stuff there). http://www.makergeeks.com/abs3dprfi.html EDIT: Glow in the Dark filament looks like it'd be neat for loving around with stuff (same for the black-light filament).
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Apr 25, 2015 20:57
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I just wish spools had a consistent inner diameter. I have a couple of spools I can't use because the ID is like .75"
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Apr 25, 2015 21:08
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Wade Wilson posted:Yeah, the quality between brands can be pretty wide open, though I haven't really noticed any weird high prices for quality. Usually makes a difference of about $5-$10 for a spool. The Glow in the Dark stuff will clog every nozzle it comes near with some sort of uncleanable cement. Beware...
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Apr 25, 2015 21:22
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insta posted:The Glow in the Dark stuff will clog every nozzle it comes near with some sort of uncleanable cement. Beware... I got some cheap Glow in the Dark filament from Amazon and it's been some of my best filament. Doesn't glow very much though. 
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Apr 25, 2015 21:28
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Kazy posted:I just wish spools had a consistent inner diameter. I have a couple of spools I can't use because the ID is like .75" Probably won't help for your printer, but I made two of these (the "longer.stl" file) for my printer and it's pretty great. Seems like it'll hold pretty much any spool size I put on it.
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Apr 25, 2015 23:46
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What is special about PET+ in general? I saw Micro Center started carrying it.
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