A human heart posted:

YA books aren't actually read primarily by teenagers, their largest audience is adults from like late 20s to mid 30s.

Dirt Road Junglist posted:

I've always felt YA has primary protagonists that skew younger than 18, and non-YA has primary protagonists that are ostensible adults. That and most YA tends to be bildungsroman type stories, which makes sense if you're marketing your literature at an audience you would expect to try and push concepts on, rather than just entertain. (YMMV, of course. Nothing is absolutely on one side or the other.)

Twilight and 50 Shades are the same story, just one of them takes place in a high school and the other post-high school.

Solice Kirsk posted:

That seems weird. Then again I know a bunch of 30 something year olds that still play Final Fantasy where you're almost always playing as a 15 year old boy. Nope, they're both weird.

A human heart posted:

YA books aren't actually read primarily by teenagers, their largest audience is adults from like late 20s to mid 30s.

Corky Romanovsky posted:

That wasn't a critique of the book, moron.

Sham bam bamina! posted:

If that's true, it's a very recent development. Source?

Corky Romanovsky posted:

That wasn't a critique of the book, moron.

Evil Fluffy posted:

This is literally true. For anyone who doesn't know: 50 Shades started out as a Twilight fanfic. Because the original premise of David Wooderson, vampire edition, wasn't creepy enough for some people.

Sham bam bamina! posted:

If that's true, it's a very recent development. Source?

A human heart posted:

its not really weird that a bunch of adults who live in the contemporary world want to retreat into escapism with a heavy focus on 'worldbulding' and simple black and white morality, although it is obviously bad.

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This Troper's name is Kvothe, pronounced nearly the same as “Quothe.” Names are important as they tell you a great deal about a person. This Troper has had more names than anyone has a right to.

The Adem call him Maedre. Which, depending on how it’s spoken, can mean “The Flame,” “The Thunder,” or “The Broken Tree.”

“The Flame” is obvious if you’ve ever seen This Troper. He has red hair, bright. If he had been born a couple hundred years ago he would probably have been burned as a demon. This Troper keeps it short but it’s unruly. When left to its own devices, it sticks up and makes him look as if he has been set afire.

“The Thunder” he attributes to a strong baritone and a great deal of stage training at an early age.

This Troper has never thought of “The Broken Tree” as very significant. Although in retrospect he supposes it could be considered at least partially prophetic.

His first mentor called him E’lir because he was clever and he knew it. His first real lover called him Dulator because she liked the sound of it. He has been called Shadicar, Lightfinger, and Six-String. He has been called Kvothe the Bloodless, Kvothe the Arcane, and Kvothe Kingkiller. He has earned those names. Bought and paid for them.

But This Troper was brought up as Kvothe. His father once told him it meant “to know.”

He has, of course, been called many other things. Most of them uncouth, although very few were unearned.

He has stolen princesses back from sleeping barrow kings. He burned down the town of Trebon. He has spent the night with Felurian and left with both his sanity and his life. He was expelled from the University at a younger age than most people are allowed in. He treads paths by moonlight that others fear to speak of during day. He has talked to Gods, loved women, and written songs that make the minstrels weep.

You may have heard of This Troper.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

What are you talking about? I was talking about Ccs's post about Traitor Batu Cormorant.

I'm not sure what you're actually trying to accomplish here, really.

Ccs posted:

You didn't even critique the book though. You just read a summary and called it drivel out of hand. So I posted a similarly snarky and vapid response.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Oh by the way, I made this at a suggestion in another thread, and I never posted it here!

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7. Appendix: The Aturan Calendar

As if you needed more proof that Rothfuss is a master world-builder, the new edition boasts an appendix explaining the Aturan calendar. So for those of you who wondered how many months are in the year (eight) or how many span are in a month (four) or how many days are in a span (eleven), now you can find answers to your questions. Just don’t get us started on the “chaos” surrounding the Seven Days of High Mourning.

Atlas Hugged posted:

I wonder if adults reading YA is at all similar or related to the Japanese phenomenon of adults playing video games set in high school because it represented the last time in their life where they were truly free to express themselves before being browbeaten by Japanese corporate culture to become a soulless drone.

A human heart posted:

the summary makes the book sound bad

CoolHandMat posted:

Will the third book ever be written? Or are we going to have another Robert Jordan or GRR Martin on our hands here?

CoolHandMat posted:

Will the third book ever be written? Or are we going to have another Robert Jordan or GRR Martin on our hands here?

ulmont posted:

It won't. Rothfuss is having too much fun being a Celebrated Fantasy Author.

CoolHandMat posted:

Will the third book ever be written? Or are we going to have another Robert Jordan or GRR Martin on our hands here?

jivjov posted:

It's in progress. Rothfuss just greatly exaggerated how much was actually done in advance.

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April 18, 2007
When Will Book Two Be Out?
I just thought I might as well make a brief, public statement about this as a lot of people have been emailing and asking me about it lately.

*ahem*

The second and third books of the trilogy should be coming out fairly quickly, considering how long they are and the fact that I’m fairly obsessive when it comes to my writing. That means book two should be out about two years from now. Book three will be a year or so after that.

Why so long? / I thought I read somewhere that you already had the second two books written?

The trilogy is already written all the way through to the end, but there is still some editorial work to be done. I want the second one to be at least as good as the first, if not better. That takes time.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

“No one writes about economic reality within this genre like Pat Rothfuss. The real-world weight of the sometimes impossible distance between the things you want and need and what you have in your pocket.

No one writes about music like Pat Rothfuss. The way it sneaks into your soul, the way it feeds you like nothing else.

No one writes about stories like pat Rothfuss. How the right story at the right time can change the world, how the teller can shape a life.

No one writes like Pat Rothfuss. Full stop. Read this book.”

- Lin-Manuel Miranda'

I can see why this MIranda guy is some kind of deity to liberal nerds.

ulmont posted:

We are past the 10 year anniversary of Rothfuss telling us that book 3 would come out around 2010.

http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2007/04/when-will-book-two-be-out/

vseslav.botkin posted:

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/10/the-name-of-the-wind-10th-anniversary-edition.html

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Oh by the way, I made this at a suggestion in another thread, and I never posted it here!

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

“No one writes about economic reality within this genre like Pat Rothfuss. The real-world weight of the sometimes impossible distance between the things you want and need and what you have in your pocket.

No one writes about music like Pat Rothfuss. The way it sneaks into your soul, the way it feeds you like nothing else.

No one writes about stories like pat Rothfuss. How the right story at the right time can change the world, how the teller can shape a life.

No one writes like Pat Rothfuss. Full stop. Read this book.”

- Lin-Manuel Miranda'

Evil Fluffy posted:

It is true, only a master world builder could devise something as elaborate as a calendar.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

“No one writes about economic reality within this genre like Pat Rothfuss. The real-world weight of the sometimes impossible distance between the things you want and need and what you have in your pocket.

No one writes about music like Pat Rothfuss. The way it sneaks into your soul, the way it feeds you like nothing else.

No one writes about stories like pat Rothfuss. How the right story at the right time can change the world, how the teller can shape a life.

No one writes like Pat Rothfuss. Full stop. Read this book.”

- Lin-Manuel Miranda'

Zoracle Zed posted:

Eela6 posted:

The same cousin who wanted me to read this book is obsessed with Hamilton. He called it, quote, 'the greatest hip-hop album of the decade'. I don't hate Hamilton but I might hate Lin-Manuel Miranda now.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Miranda is just a huge nerd

Lots of arty theater and music nerds love Rothfuss for some reason