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MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
I took away that and that Zen won't be readily available until next year.

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MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
What's Keighly doing here? Okay whatever let's see what happens.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
Huh, I guess Scorpio is doing something with VR even though I don't remember Microsoft announcing that. Welp, thanks AMD.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
Going over tweets and reddit posts. Padding fun times.

edit: So yeah it totally is Ryzen.

MagusDraco fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Dec 13, 2016

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
So, probably Haswell-E/Broadwell-E?

Well I hope it isn't $600+

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
Now OC that 6900K and show us what happens.

95 watt TDP isn't bad though.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
So battlefield 1 at 4k on a titan X.

Battlefield 1 does like to eat all the processor it can but at 4k it's probably more the gpu than cpu at this point.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
Price? Nah the price isn't happening today.

edit: Instead have Ryzen and Vega together doing 4k stuff or something.

But with Battlefront.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

EdEddnEddy posted:

4K Vega Battlefront test?

Why not BF1 to keep things consistent? lol

'cause Vega isn't a Titan X Pascal and can't pull that off.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
Price? Nah. Unless they want Keighly to announce the price.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

Josh Lyman posted:

I haven't followed AMD since the Athlon X2 days. Please let me know before they announce a bigly product so I can make some monies on the stock tia.

Ryzen didn't do anything, but maybe Vega?

You missed the stock boat back when AMD was $2 a share awhile ago.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
My poor 3550 is having problems with battlefield 1 to the point where I get better framerate in dx12 mode. BF1 generally doesn't give you better framerate in DX12 mode, ever. I'm the super special snowflake (that's trying to push 2560x1440@144hz with a 1070 that's being hobbled by the processor)



I'll probably upgrade at some point but not until the Zen dust settles.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

Jago posted:

How many frames do you average? Does running half res look terrible?

For whatever reason DX11 averages 30s to 40s. DX12 averages 50s to 70s which is fine by me but DX12 will randomly stutter sometimes.


DX11 is "supposed" to average in the 70s to 90s though at that resolution with a 1070 when not cpu bound at all.

edit: It's apparently a known issue that happens to some people and one of the fixes was to setup a framerate cap at 60 but that kind of defeats the point of having a high refresh rate monitor and oh well.

Honestly by the time I want to upgrade probably won't be playing BF1 anymore and this'll be a moot point. 95% of other games work fine still. Deadly Premonition doesn't but well that's Deadly Premonition.

MagusDraco fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jan 12, 2017

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

FaustianQ posted:

This does mean that the 6C/12T and 4C/8Ts are going to have insane pricing, the 6Cs directly competing with i7s and high end i5s, and the 4C/8Ts competing with i5s and high end i3s, likely leaving the 4C/4T cpus to battle it out at around 100$.

Holy gently caress that's a slaughter if IPC is close to Broadwell.

There were rumors that the clocks on the 6c and 4c weren't doing that well compared to the 8c chips so we'll see.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

teagone posted:

I really only care about increasing my FPS in Overwatch. Currently I have an i5 4570, 8GB DDR3 1600, and a GTX 1060 6GB. My modest setup averages roughly 120 FPS with the "Ultra" graphic preset.

Would a 4C/8T or 6C/12T Ryzen with whatever budget mainboard and DDR4 RAM get me considerably more Overwatch FPS?

Maybe. It looks like hyperthreading makes a difference on minimum framerates if techspot's benchmark isn't trash CPU side of the benchmark.

So I mean you could also just throw money at an i7 haswell if you wanted.

That being said if you're running at 2560x1440 a 1070 probably would also get minimum framerates up.

MagusDraco fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Feb 15, 2017

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

teagone posted:

Alrighty, this is what I needed to hear. Thanks :)

If you do ever upgrade to a bigger monitor at 144hz/g-sync/2560x1440/etc then it'll be worth it to get a 1070 and new faster cpu and more ram, etc.

So that'll be a thing. Or well just get a 1070 and let the cpu and stuff ride which is what I did and things are mostly fine. BF1 is dumb and busted on dx11 for me for reasons but I've kinda stopped playing it for now so whatever. Most games are fine even with an older quad core i5 (i5-3550 in my case).

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
Still have a couple 1280x800 Dell VGA monitors in our office from the pentium 4 days.

They won't die. They won't be replaced until they die.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

B-Mac posted:

Any other game screen caps or did they just run tomb raider? Can't watch the video at the moment.

Crysis 3 seems to get higher framerates with SMT on. FPS Avg: 1800x 140 to 150 with SMT on 130 to 135 with SMT off, 7700k 152 to 157, 6900k 162 to 165

Far Cry Primal gets higher framerates with SMT off. FPS Avg: 1800x SMT On, 87. SMT Off, 97. Didn't see where they tested the other two intel cpus but I skipped around the video a lot.

crysis 3: sometimes ryzen is faster than a 7700k, sometimes it's slower. 6900k 10% faster than the 1800x

Rise of the Tomb raider: picture already shown but yeah it just runs slower on ryzen in cpu bound situations. 6900k is roughly 40-50% faster at stock clocks compared to the 1800x. Turning SMT off loses you more framerate. FPS Avg: 1800x 76-80, 7700k 115-118, 6900k 123-125 SMT Off: loses like 8 to 10 fps avg.

Ashes of the singularity: 7700k (19%) and 6900k (32%) fasterthan 1800x. Devs put out a statement saying they're going to optimize the game for ryzen later. 1800x 35 fps, 7700k 42fps, 6900k 47fps

Witcher 3 Novigrad: 7700k and 6900k faster but in the end you're still getting 100-120fps (120 fps average) on the ryzen compared to 110-130/140 on the 7700k and 6900k

At 2560x1440 games are no longer cpu bound and things are now gpu bound and everything is about the same on average. Things become more consistent/and the 1800x ends up being the same or faster on average.

Faster Ram: 3200mhz > 2133mhz ddr4 but no real difference between intel and amd. Just get better than 2133mhz ram.

Windows Core scheduler and amd may have some issues (win7 vs win 10): Crysis 3 and and Far Cry Primal run better with SMT off/run better on Windows 7.

In some mobos you disable zen cores you can run with 12 cores instead of 16 cores (and can turn a 1800x into a 1600x) No difference in performance in rear end Creed Unity, most games lose like 4-8% performance between 8 core and 6 core modes so it looks like the 6 core cpus will be roughly as fast for gaming as the 8 core cpus.

The 6 cores need to come out first though to make sure though

tl;dr: if gaming, 7700k > 1800x. If doing other things, Ryzen is still interesting.

MagusDraco fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Mar 18, 2017

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MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
Fabs are retooling or whatever. Both ram and SSDs are going up in price due to shortages.

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