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DO YALL WANT A BOXC
Jul 20, 2010

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Usman looks a bit deflated off the PEDs. $20 on Leon @ +285 to win $77

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Jul 20, 2010

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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

Usman looks a bit deflated off the PEDs. $20 on Leon @ +285 to win $77

:smug:

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Jul 20, 2010

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Marching Powder posted:

that one was absolute jase looking down

all credit to the Once and Forever King. betting because "this guy looks a bit deflated? maybe?" is the way

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Jul 20, 2010

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DeimosRising posted:

I love that you were 100% wrong and he was winning easily until he died and now you’re right. Good job lol

I'm an MMA betting Genius

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Jul 20, 2010

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LobsterMobster posted:

Ah, I shall simply give James Krause $5k and let him place bets for me.

https://twitter.com/smoogymma/status/1562846831532318720?t=r1g40vgoatICbgo1xA5s5A&s=19

I am also announcing that I will be doing the same thing. if anyone in this thread/on this forum wants to give me $5K to bet with, I will be happy to place it for them and share profit/loss. pay no attention to my post history. I'm just on a temporary cold streak

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Jul 20, 2010

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Eat This Glob posted:

that's the same thing ive heard from a necrophiliac. don't trust boxc, they talk like a sicko.

ill do it for whatever you can afford. my lack of bets announced in this thread means ive just been keeping my winning secrets to myself. your profits will be so much amd so often ill have to dole them out at the end of the year so we don't have a bunch of paypal fees and stuff eating into your fat stacks

i lost a guy like $5000 because I posted a picture of Megan Anderson being taller than Amanda Nunes. and you're in here trying to take customers from me. shame

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Jul 20, 2010

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$20 on Buckley @ +185 to win $57
$20 on Vettori @ +160 to win $52
$20 on Tuivasa @ +385 to win $97
$14.27 on Buckley/Vettori/Tuivasa @ +3493 to win $512.84

I'm kinda surprised all these guys are this big of dogs. I would actually bet Vettori down to like -140. Buckley, too. Tuivasa I would bet down to +200. Buckley I think can get inside on Imavov. Vettori has a great chin, Whittaker has a ton of mileage on him, and I would not be surprised at all to see Marvin use his size and chin to grind his way to victory in a short fight. And Tai is willing to take some risks to get inside, but he's trained enough with Mark Hunt, and I'm sure Mark Hunt has taught him a lot on the technical side. I think he has a chance for sure, especially if they're using the smaller Octagon.

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Jul 20, 2010

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yeah I just use DraftKings. I dunno about the odds but it feels fine enough.

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Jul 20, 2010

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Marching Powder posted:

I had 50 in an old account and used it to place similar bets with similar reasons.

we rollin. Just put more money in, send me the account details, and I can James Krause it for you. profit guaranteed the profit of eternal heaven, of course

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Jul 20, 2010

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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

$20 on Buckley @ +185 to win $57
$20 on Vettori @ +160 to win $52
$20 on Tuivasa @ +385 to win $97
$14.27 on Buckley/Vettori/Tuivasa @ +3493 to win $512.84

I'm kinda surprised all these guys are this big of dogs. I would actually bet Vettori down to like -140. Buckley, too. Tuivasa I would bet down to +200. Buckley I think can get inside on Imavov. Vettori has a great chin, Whittaker has a ton of mileage on him, and I would not be surprised at all to see Marvin use his size and chin to grind his way to victory in a short fight. And Tai is willing to take some risks to get inside, but he's trained enough with Mark Hunt, and I'm sure Mark Hunt has taught him a lot on the technical side. I think he has a chance for sure, especially if they're using the smaller Octagon.

this was fake actually. i bet the opposite of all these and made a lot of money

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Jul 20, 2010

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Walker @ +155, 5 to win 12.75
Li Jiangling @ +135, 10 to win 23.50
Holland @ +400, 10 to win 50
Diaz @ +120, 100 to win 220
Walker/Li/Holland/Diaz parlay @ +6491, 5 to win 329.58

*ahem*

STOCKTON

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Jul 20, 2010

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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

Walker @ +155, 5 to win 12.75
Li Jiangling @ +135, 10 to win 23.50
Holland @ +400, 10 to win 50
Diaz @ +120, 100 to win 220
Walker/Li/Holland/Diaz parlay @ +6491, 5 to win 329.58

*ahem*

STOCKTON

War Walker, Li got robbed, Khamzat continued being dishonorable, but above all else:

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Jul 20, 2010

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i have an fairly good interest/understanding in statistical baseball/hockey prediction, and I do a lot of data stuff in my day job, so I've considered trying to build a basic model or trying to do some basic ML on it, but I don't think I would have as much fun as "209 bitch" and "Usman looka deflated" as my reasoning for betting, so I haven't looked into it further.

from what I know about gambling in general, the places to make serious money are probably on some of the weirder betting lines, like # of rounds and likelihood to finish and stuff like that. there's a good article about Haralabos Voulgaris, who was a pro NBA bettor and poker player and then got hired by Dallas:

https://www.espn.com/blog/playbook/dollars/post/_/id/2935/meet-the-worlds-top-nba-gambler

one of the things he made a lot of his money on was just total points in basketball because Vegas didn't account for the halves of the game not typically having the same # of points.

I interviewed a VP of Data/Analytics from Caesar's a couple of years ago and asked him about how solid they have MMA down and he said basically yeah, the less known/popular/statistically studied a sport is, the more likely it is that the casinos haven't done a lot of that work either. So MMA is a decent candidate for building a model and getting an edge since there's not a lot of public statistical analysis on it and it's pretty new.

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Jul 20, 2010

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what's everyone got for this weekend.

I can't decide if I really like Makachev at -190 or Charles at +160. One of those feels like a great bet, but I dunno if I'm smart enough to figure it out. Leaning towards Islam.

I like Sterling at -175, but not sure if I like it enough to bet yet

Definitely going to take O'Malley at +225, probably by decision, too.

Dariush at +160 looks great, too, as does Belal at +120.

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Jul 20, 2010

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Fozzy The Bear posted:

I feel like that is your biggest miss. He's never beat a top 15 fighter, and now he's going up against the former champ? If he does win, its going to be an early KO.

completely get that, but it feels like: taller + younger fighter generally has a really good chance.

I also like Sean's mind games so far. Yan has that moron thing that I like to talk about where he might try and knock Sean out instead of just taking him down and grinding him out. If he tries that, Sean is a very live dog imo.

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Parlay of Brady to win and Brady with most significant strikes @ +130, $10 to win $23
O'Malley to win @ +215, $20 to win $63
O'Malley by decision @ +500, $7.25 to win $43.50
Aljo to win @ -175, $20 to win $31.42
Dariush to win @ +170, $20 to win $54
Parlay of Makhachev to win, in round 1, with most takedowns and most significant strikes @ +700, $5 to win $40
Parlay of Dariush, O'Malley, Aljo, and Makhachev @ +2360, $20 to win $492.11


I think I might lose literally all of these lol. I feel bad betting against Do Bronx but I think the odds on Islam are really good and it's on his turf.

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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:

Parlay of Brady to win and Brady with most significant strikes @ +130, $10 to win $23
O'Malley to win @ +215, $20 to win $63
O'Malley by decision @ +500, $7.25 to win $43.50
Aljo to win @ -175, $20 to win $31.42
Dariush to win @ +170, $20 to win $54
Parlay of Makhachev to win, in round 1, with most takedowns and most significant strikes @ +700, $5 to win $40
Parlay of Dariush, O'Malley, Aljo, and Makhachev @ +2360, $20 to win $492.11


I think I might lose literally all of these lol. I feel bad betting against Do Bronx but I think the odds on Islam are really good and it's on his turf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deNk2qHA3FA

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Fozzy The Bear posted:

Anderson Silva is showing up as a betting underdog with many places vs Jake Paul.

Might be worth it to throw a few $ on him.

But them again Silva is 47 years old.

Thanks for reminding me lol. He's +150 on DraftKings. I don't know how to handicap the odds on whether the fight is fixed. even at this age, I think Andy could easily purposefully lose over 8 rounds without taking too much damage. But how likely is he to do that?

if I knew it was a straight up fight I would jump at those odds, which makes me think it's not straight up.

Uriah Hall is only -390 against Leveon Bell, which seems like crazy easy money. Not sure if I'll bet on that though.

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Jul 20, 2010

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FanDuel has -164 on Izzy. That's seriously making me want to put money on there even though I only ever do DraftKings. DK has him at -200. I'd probably bet him down to -400 or -500. Crazy to met that Alex is that close in odds.

Weili's at -360 with Esparza at +295. Esparza is tempting at that but I'm having a hard time seeing how she actually wins. Out wrestles and lays-and-prays? For 5 rounds? Weili is so strong.

Chandler at +185 I will bet for sure. Poirier is like a hair away from falling off it seems like, and Chandler still seems to have a lot in the tank. Poirier gets hit a lot and I would not be surprised to see Chandler knock him out. I am very surprised Chandler is a dog at all.

Edgar at +185 is very tempting. I don't know much about Gutierrez, though, and there are generally few happy endings in this sport.

Hooker at -165 is on the money probably. I can't decide if I think that's too high or too low. He has lost a lot recently but mainly to top guys. He might settle in as a gatekeeper. I don't have very strong opinions on Puelles.

I like Riddell at +108. He's on a two-fight skid but he fought two really good guys. Moicano has some nice wins but I think Riddell takes it. Should be like -190 Riddell IMO.

Reyes is -205 and Spann is +175, which feels okay, but Reyes has looked very unmotivated the last two fights and he hasn't fought in a year in a half. Will bet Spann.

Molly is +320. I don't trust anyone at women's FW outside of Valentina so that's a slam pick.

We'll see how the odds shift, but I'm probably going to do:

Izzy
Chandler
Riddell
Spann
Molly

and parlay them as well.

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Jul 20, 2010

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Shumagorath posted:

Starting to see wisdom in Boxc picks. I either need to drink less or a lot more.

Let me be your James Krause!

JOHN CENA posted:

im gonna dive in on your parlay but im gonna drop riddell, that fight feels like a trap.

my theory: Riddell is mega jacked and strong as gently caress, Moicano is a grappler who used to fight at FW. I think Riddell wins it if he can stay grinding

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Marching Powder posted:

are you serious? i watched their kickboxing fights, and the dude in there with izzy has kickboxed this guy to a decision and exploded his loving head off. if there is even a slight chance izzy decides this is going to be kickboxing with 4oz gloves my pereira is loving live imo

I don't know that there are any hard/fast rules of MMA, but one that I've come to trust in a ton is "who would win in a single-discipline sport does not translate over to MMA, even if you think it would". Jones took down DC, Gonzaga blew Crocop's head off, Rountree knocked out Gokhan Saki, etc. The threat of wrestling, 4oz gloves, the cage, the training methods, the mindset...I just don't hold a lot of weight on that aside from "Pereira knows how to punch".

Even if Izzy just purely kickboxes with him, it's just a different discipline IMO. And one that Izzy has 19 more wins at.

Marching Powder posted:

i liken this parlay to basically all the other things you look at and just get sort of sad in that non-specific way

20 on frankie / chandler / pereira to win 465

as i was typing that i realised what a gigantic waste of money that was and thought 'i can make that stupider'

10 on frankie to win by t/ko and chandler and pereira to win by decision to win 5890

will be betting live too because i'm not even sort of drunk yet.

the other rule I like is as JOHN CENA mentioned: there are almost no happy endings in combat sports

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Jul 20, 2010

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Marching Powder posted:

i actually agree with you, israel absolutely should win this fight in this ruleset and it would be extremely loving embarrassing if he didn't.

i think pereira's live for a few reasons i think you're underselling, specifically the fact that if izzy is at all human he is going to really, really want to kickbox pereira and adding in any other aspects of mma except for clinching would be tantamount to 'whoa, gently caress, ok, you'd win the third fight too' in the eyes of dana white, the just bleed guy, me, and other people who do not matter. the other little wrinkle is pereira is slightly better than 'knows how to punch'. as in when it comes to beating pereira in a straight up kick punch the glory lhw champion had to do it and he only just eeked out a majority decision. and pereira beat him in the fight before that. meanwhile izzy has been kick punching... less specifically threatening opposition.

he is live, sure, he's big and he hits hard and tall guys who normally fight short guys seem to always have difficulty fighting other tall guys (Jones vs Gus). but the main thing is:

Spokes posted:

i cannot remotely fathom this izzy line, i feel like it should be -1200.

yeah the line is way off. I would start betting Pereira at like...+1000 feels right

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Jul 20, 2010

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Alright, got:

McCann @ +300, $5 to win $20
Riddell @ +105, $10 to win $20.50
Hooker @ -155, $10 to win $16.45
Izzy @ -235, $21.20 to win $30.22
Chandler @ +170, $20 to win $54
5 pick parlay, Riddell/Hooker/Chandler/Weili/Izzy, $10 to win $209.20 (blessed payout)

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Jul 20, 2010

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i made this bet before I saw Pereira came out in the full Apocalypto get up. not feeling nearly as confident

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Jul 20, 2010

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(with an impossibly high degree of confidence) Bet on MMA.

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Jul 20, 2010

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late, but not too many lines I love. I have like $40 left in my account, so:

Till @ +140, $10 to win $24
Topuria @ -155, $20 to win $32.90
Till/Topuria/Ankalaev parlay @ +398, $11.45 to win $57.10


I think Topuria at that price is insane, slam bet for me. Till I think should be the favorite. Ankalaev @ -380 seems right, maybe even a bit high, but for some reason it seemed right to add him to the parlay.

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Jul 20, 2010

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Eat This Glob posted:

i put $100 into a draft kings account this past february. after a handful of homer ncaa mbb bets went nowhere, i made some mma bets including a few hedges on ufc cards. im currently sitting on a massive bankroll of $28. i figured id end my year of subpar underdog bets with another dog: Damir Ismagulov. bet on the other guy if you want to win money

you missed so bad on this one that he retired. a new achievement for this thread.

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Jul 20, 2010

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Volk to win, by decision, with 25+ significant strikes in the first round, $10 @ +700 to win $80
Yair to win, $10 @ -205 to win $14.87
Volk/Della Maddalena/Tafa to win @ +775, $15 to win $131.36
Volk to win, $150 @ +285 to win $577.50

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Jul 20, 2010

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forgot to post in advance, but the only thing I ended up winning was Jones to win + by sub, $50 to win $250. :cool:

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Jul 20, 2010

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Jase 100% come back lol. none of us are mad. legendary commitment to the bit if true

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Jul 20, 2010

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my theory is that it’s a Prestige like thing and the pool hustling stories are true. think about it: one guy doesn’t know how to play, plays like poo poo/okay, then you switch them out for the other Jase(Jase2???) and they come in and smash. this also would explain the blackout betting.

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Jul 20, 2010

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Mr. Nice! posted:

There are plenty of us hurt by this who thought we were somewhat close with him.

I’m not just speaking for myself. I’ve talked with goons that spent the last year of his “life” playing video games with him and providing consolation for his terminal struggle.

I do agree that all of it is funny in some ways, but there is also a lot of hurt for those of us personally betrayed.

man that’s loving insane. good on you guys to do that. he like conversed with you about his illness while playing games? that’s incredibly wild

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Jul 20, 2010

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Jase1 slowly walking out of the hospital like Keyser Soze. He’s limping, but his walking begins to get more normal. Eventually he stops and lights a cigarette. A car pulls up and he gets in. The driver hands him a Steam Deck. he loads up Call Of Duty and smirks as the car pulls off. it’s unclear what he gained by all this

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CarlCX posted:

yeah to be clear jase is absolutely catching a ban if he comes back after faking his own death for forum fun, it's funny but don't be crazy, if he wants to pay the tax he can

Carl what the gently caress. if he comes back I will take the ban and pay the tax in his stead. I will absolutely take the bullet for a guy pulling a YEARS long con consisting of 100s of thousand of words for…? some people to play Call of Duty with? to tell fake pool hustling stories? i gotta know.

how is that not the exact type of posting we want to encourage??

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Jul 20, 2010

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there’s a part in one of the David Blaine celebrity things where he sticks a needle through his arm but is acting like he’s faking it. and really freaking Ricky Gervais out, because Blaine keeps suggesting that it’s fake despite it seemingly being impossible to fake that close. eventually Blaine has Gervais pull it out. and Gervais is well and truly freaked out until he realizes the genius of it, that Blaine is really just sticking the needle right through his arm.

he says something like “either it’s the very best close up illusion ever, or you’ve just stuck a needle through your loving arm. either way…i mean, well done. kudos”

that’s pretty much where I land on it. either he really was a pool hustler, poker player, degenerate sports gambler, and guy with recurring cancer that went on one last insane bender in Vegas with a whole forum of people cheering him on and betting with him at levels not seen since we all collectively lost like $700 on a 900-year-old Mark Coleman, bought his wife a Lexus and died.

or he was none of that. or some of that, maybe. and he put ungodly amounts of hours into lying on a forum telling various stories. and letting people comfort him as he faked his death by playing Call of Duty with him. for months and maybe years. building up relationships as this partly or wholly fake person, and then deciding at one point that he couldn’t do it anymore, so doing what amounts to (this being the pro wrestling subforum) an in-character suicide, complete with another poster (who also may be him?) coming on and saying “please don’t ban him in case his wife wants to reach out”. but then being too lazy and/or just loving Call of Duty so much that he forgets to cover his tracks so that people figure out he didn’t really die. which also gets him nothing. you can just kinda stop posting here. you don’t really need a story. just say you’re busy with IRL. or back heavy into playing pool. or something. it’s pretty easy to even switch into a background poster. there’s not really a need for subterfuge.

so, either way, well done lol. if it’s the latter, that is such a deeply fascinating and strange thing to do. that’s like getfiscal levels of committing to the bit, but I’m not sure even he went to those levels. i have to think there are much easier ways of getting people to play CoD with you. it’s a pretty popular game. i hope he comes back and posts again.

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Mr. Nice! posted:

In my case, we didn’t play video games, but he did offer me jobs to try to get me to move to south Florida to work for his business. Then chat between us shifted to cancer and the future after his “death.”

omg chael crash posted:

As one of the people hurt the most by this(played video games with him for 10 years, have a ton of messages talking with him through all this), I say let him come back. gently caress it, it’s funny

lmao guys. bless both of you for being good people

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kayfabe-wise, Jase was always a massive Jon Jones hater and a massive Stipe/Cleveland stan. if he comes back like The Rock 2011 with a “20k on Stipe” post next month these forums will melt down. but please do it Jase

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