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Nahdrav
Apr 15, 2007

"Never seen the sun shine brighter
And it feels like me, on a good day"
I must say, coming from the Middle East and having many close friends in Bahrain im still shocked at the energy of the protests in Bahrain. I mean ,barring the UAE, it was probably one of the most well off nations in the region; a combination of a strong middle class, solid economy,relatively low crime rates meant that it was probably one of the last countries I ever expected be filled with protestors.

I really do hope that things reach a peaceful accord sometime soon, I mean, as great as it would be if GCC Nations got democracy, Al-Saqr has a pretty valid point; this isn't Egypt 2.0 . Bahrain has the full might of Saudi Arabia behind its ruling class, thats a rather terrifying fact that protestors are ,unfortunately, likely to notice in the coming days.

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Nahdrav
Apr 15, 2007

"Never seen the sun shine brighter
And it feels like me, on a good day"
So I was flickin through my iTunes and I came across something I thought the democratic champions in this thread might appreciate, more Iraq than Libya but the parallels are pretty haunting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gA8G0xHknQ



(Also shameless Pro Palestine Plug : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p1CJwTNC9M&feature=related)

Nahdrav
Apr 15, 2007

"Never seen the sun shine brighter
And it feels like me, on a good day"

automatic posted:

What parallels are haunting?

I fail to see how an an illegal war of aggression is parallel to a humanitarian intervention. We aren't occupying Libya and we were happy to do business with them until CQ started massacring people marching for their rights. Also this action has true international support- even Russia is behind it at this point.

I was talking more about the pointless deaths of civilians wanting nothing but freedom and democracy thing, i'm all for downing Gaddafis oppressive regime and NATOs intervention :) .

Nahdrav
Apr 15, 2007

"Never seen the sun shine brighter
And it feels like me, on a good day"
I scanned this thread a few times but heard no mention of these guys so I figured I'd go ahead and bring them up as they are genuinely fascinating,especially considering all the talk of dehumanisation that's going on.

I don't want to detract from the thread I just think anyone interested in the Middle East conflicts should give Mashrou' Leila a listen, they were introduced to me by a close Lebanese friend whose been visiting family in Tripoli all summer and she says they really do an amazing job of capturing some of the mindset of the youth in Lebanon(and to a lesser extent Syria). Their music is also genuinely really emotive stuff and even if you can't understand the lyrics I find it really powerful ,a welcome respite from dry facts and data to a real look at some of the people on the ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMjem_VhIeI

(Lyrics for those of us who are linguistically impaired http://feelnotes.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/mashrou3-leila-the-english-lyrics/ )

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