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Mr Plow posted:Unconfirmed reports: This is getting insane. I feel awful for the soldiers, but the fact that Egypt, Tunisia and Turkey are taking charge of the situation and helping out their brothers from other mothers is  I'm really optimistic for Libya's future 
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Feb 21, 2011 16:41
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Brown Moses posted:Al Jazeera BREAKING: Eyewitnesses confirm military aircraft are conducting a bombing campaign against #Tripoli protesters. I think I might vomit. Would there be any regional power equipped/willing to take on the Libyan pro-Qaddafi forces? The bloodshed needs to stop 
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Feb 21, 2011 17:40
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ChaosSamusX posted:What the hell is this? Some sort of 'If I can't have it, nobody can' mentality from a crushed half-insane dictator? Half? I think maybe Egypt should be sending tanks and planes and not just aid.
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Feb 21, 2011 17:47
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KurdtLives posted:I wish some country- ANY country would at least provide some air support for the protesters... at least in obvious situations like a pickup truck full of fucks firing at crowds of civies they get a hellfire missle from a chopper. Probably not going to happen though. Tunisia is closest but could they even compete in Tripoli?
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Feb 21, 2011 17:49
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Jut posted:Hope the protesters prevail. If not, it could set a horrible example of how to handle protesters elsewhere. I really hope the pro-govs get their poo poo kicked in. I don't necessarily care by whom.
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Feb 21, 2011 17:55
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farraday posted:AJE to Libyan protesters "Please sack this building, thank you" Hopefully this happens without more civilians getting killed 
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Feb 21, 2011 18:07
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Cjones posted:Right now theirs a text message competition on CNN to decide whether to talk about a big cruise liner, an old car, or old people eating. I will never click on an ad, watch their network, cite an article or even entertain the thought of going to their website ever again.
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Feb 21, 2011 18:12
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Xandu posted:Things can't backfire and get any worse in Libya and the US can't do anything to force him to stop. There's literally no good reason on earth to not pursue heavy targeted sanctions about Libya's leadership. It can't back them into a corner, because they're already in that corner shooting everything in sight. Sanctions might, just might make Gaddafi realize he's going to be ostracized from the international community if he continues this (that's what happened in the 90s), but more importantly, the US and everybody else won't look incompetent and complicit to Libyans. To be honest I think the US could push the UN to intervene, but probably won't. At this point, if Qaddafi has already fled, it may be long past the point of efficacy in sanctions. I'm not sure what would be the right thing to do but I'm 100% sure it's not what is going on right now.
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Feb 21, 2011 18:33
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Petey posted:Apparently Ban Ki Moon has spoken to Gaddafi in Libya (or so I understand). And I don't know what the UN would do. Well, to start, they could meet the requests of the envoys pleading for a no-fly zone over Libya. Shoot down any plane going in to strafe/bomb Tripoli or Benghazi.
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Feb 21, 2011 18:36
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farraday posted:Libyan not Lebanese right? From what I understand, Egypt, Tunisia and Turkey were attempting to send aid. I wonder if they had armed forces escorts? It might be time to trade grain for grit.
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ukle posted:From the BBC update page - Oh I hope to hell they do.
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Feb 21, 2011 18:47
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Petey posted:I'm sorry I don't get these references Stealth bombers are based in these locations. The B-2.
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Feb 21, 2011 18:57
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Petey posted:I don't think so. This is the protestors battle to win for themselves. A no-fly zone might be appropriate, as are sanctions; but direct military action has nothing good come of it. I think you're pretty much dead-on, as lovely as the situation is. However, I wonder if regional powers would be better-received? Libya is flanked by Egypt and Tunisia to the west and east respectively. Could they be effective?
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Feb 21, 2011 19:18
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SauceNinja posted:I'm not going to watch unnecessary dismembered arms, legs, or brains. Is there any relevant content? ie. helicopter shown firing or something to give more solid evidence of the events as they happen instead of just. 'Dead People!!' The lack of reporters there is annoying. I'd say bodies are pretty loving relevant to the assertion that there's a mass murder going on, especially with the types of damage inflicted upon them.
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Feb 21, 2011 21:30
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Intel5 posted:So even just a no fly zone, no troops ever set foot in Libya, only stopping Gaddafi from using the air force against the protesters, will destroy the legitimacy of the revolution? If you are to understand "legitimacy" as a monopoly on power, yes. As much as I want to see Qaddafi and his forces getting their asses kicked, it's very tricky to help out the Libyans without unintentional damage to their movement. At best we'd send the message that they couldn't do it on their own, at worst it would tell the world that their revolution was an illegitimate one; a foreign action. \/\/\/ I think the TFF catchphrase "gently caress this gay Earth" applies here.
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Feb 21, 2011 22:47
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He's like the Oprah of death sentences. Jesus. "YOU get sentenced to death; YOU get sentenced to death! YOU get sentenced to DE-ATH!"
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Feb 22, 2011 17:26
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Ezzie posted:Christ..will he stop? Or will he continue talking until he suffers from exhaustion and dies. Maybe that's what 'dying on my country's soil' means. It'll stop when one of his bodyguards just says: "gently caress it, I can't listen to any more" and shoots him on live TV.
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Feb 22, 2011 17:54
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Belgurdo posted:All of this is so sudden...why all of these protests and uprisings now and not 10, 20, 50 years ago? What has changed over there? For some, wikileaks. For others, a point of no return. For even others still: "hey, our neighbors did it, maybe we can beat our tyrant too!" I always smile when I think about these countries getting a new government FOR the people soon \/\/ Forgot about grain/food prices. Thanks for the catch. GonadTheBallbarian fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Feb 24, 2011 |
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Feb 24, 2011 00:34
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Brown Moses posted:I bet Hitler wasn't this funny before he shot himself.  I still think we should make a Qaddafi speech GDT a la TFF. There's always a deluge of new posts whenever that crazy fucker goes on the airwaves.
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Feb 24, 2011 16:09
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Brown Moses posted:Also from the Guardian: That's not a good sign. Unless they can find the body and confirm it's him, not having him face justice for his crimes will piss a lot of people off. Y'know, if he has actually been shot.
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Feb 24, 2011 21:08
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Slave posted:who are you to cast doubt on oil trader rumours Nobody if oil prices go down. But only if they go DOWN 
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Feb 24, 2011 21:14
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Sivias posted:Is it likely that oil prices will go back down? I don't think people are fully appreciating the impact of these revolts. Well, they're hyper-inflated as it is, and a market corrhhaahahaahaa no 
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Feb 24, 2011 21:19
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Just a heads-up: when a plane looks like it's making circles, usually that means it's in a holding pattern until it's turn in the queue to land. Also, disappearing from view doesn't mean anything necessarily; it could have been cleared to land or taken off the website for one reason or another. Keep in mind too, air traffic controllers have the right to,and often divert planes to other airports for reasons ranging from "too many birds/traffic" to "holy gently caress there are people waiting to shoot you down". I'm betting that there may be an issue in the tower or on the Tarmac preventing the planes from landing safely.
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Feb 25, 2011 17:52
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The Brown Menace posted:Yeah as I said Egypt will most likely be Turkey 2.0 aka another US of the Middle East. I really hope that's what happens after all this tumult. Several other iterations of that government would be a great step forward for the region's stability.
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Feb 26, 2011 02:24
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Nenonen posted:It makes you wonder what he's named his own 'sword'. "Dream of Gaddafi" Meaning he dreams of the day he can find it, assuming it still exists.
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Mar 1, 2011 17:24
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Petey posted:I disagree. It was not "pointless." Clearly the people risking their lives to violently protest thought there was a point. That the "point" is not intelligible within a modern, Enlightenment, liberal democratic worldview does not mean that there is not a point. There's also the tendency for people to fall into the trap of false equivocation if a word can be interpreted multiple ways. It probably would have been better to find a different word, but what can you do?
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Sep 14, 2012 04:48
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Emanuel Collective posted:Unconfirmed reports out of Afghanistan say Mullah Omar has been killed. This would be about the millionth time this has been reported, but it'd be pretty big news if true. Not seeing anything on Al-Jazeera, do you have a source? It would be rather interesting to see what happens with that if true.
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Petey posted:Yes, but my point is that Obama's use of "senseless violence" in his statement was not a poor choice of words, but instead a very deliberate use of a word which implies unintelligibility to subtly signal solidarity and "likeness" with most Americans who will indeed find these acts conceptually unintelligible. Right, and people who use that phrase as what they believe to be an acceptable substitute for what they really mean can lead to further complications in the future. Especially when it comes to rebuking the actions of violent people. I always hold out hope for a short, obscenity-laden statement, though I know it's not constructive in the least.
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AllanGordon posted:It's funny though that people don't go murdering when someone burns the flag and that the very act is protected as freedom of speech. The two acts really can't be expected to have the same outcomes in light of the contexts of each, though. \/\/ I hope she's okay
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Emron posted:Can someone fill me in on where this dumb loving "Stevens was raped before/after his death!" talking point got started? Unsourced racist ramblings then cited by the Washington Times.
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