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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Afghan forces have pushed the Taliban out of Kunduz

That's some good news at least.

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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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No else reporting it besides RT atm, but the Turkish Army has moved into the Kurdish majority city of Silvan.

http://www.rt.com/news/317341-turkish-army-police-silvan/

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-agreement-idUSKCN0VK2NT

quote:

"We did not get a deal on the immediate end of Russian bombings, but we have a commitment to a process that if it works would change the situation," a Western diplomatic source said.

Hostiles will cease when the rebels are dead comrade.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Caro's alive! Holy loving gently caress!

:gbsmith:

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Aliquid posted:

Turkey took out a full-page ad in the WSJ today telling people to stop all that worrying over what may or may not have happened a century ago.

loving hell. My Nana's going to go ballistic when she sees this.

also gently caress Turkey!

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...rces-idf-214004

I found this to be an interesting read. I didn't know Israeli intelligence and military leaders fought so fiercely against Netanyahu's plans to carry out airstrikes on Iran.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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icantfindaname posted:

Reminder that the Turkish president's palace is literally the estate of a wealthy Armenian businessman who was deported in the Genocide

Not since 2014 when they built a new one when Erdoğan became president.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Complex

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Nitrousoxide posted:

That's a good way to get the fence sitters to declare for the coup.

Seems to late for that.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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In other depressing news. Pakistan social media star Qandeel Baloch has been strangled to death by her brother for "shaming the family".

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSKCN0ZW0JL

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Nitrousoxide posted:

Why aren't the Israelis supporting the rebels? I mean a lot of them are Islamists but surely they don't want Assad in charge either.

Despite the rhetoric from Assad. The Israel-Syrian border has been quiet for a long time. Assad falling risks Islamist groups turning their weapons on Israel and firing rockets over the border.

I think the Israelis prefer the conflict to drag on as long as possible and leave everyone in a weak state.

Friendly Humour posted:

Because they don't give a gently caress and they got their own genocide to busy themselves with? Assad signed a peace treaty with Israel, which is a lot more than can be said for most of Israel's neighbours. Then again, he is allied with Iran so who knows. Maybe they just don't want none of that mess on their hands.
I think you're confusing Syria with Egypt here. There is no peace treaty between Israel and Syria. The countries have existed in a Korea style armistice stand off since 1974. Syria also does not officially recognize the State of Israel. Some past Israeli governments have offered to return the Golan Heights to exchange for a peace treaty, but those offers were rebuffed or fell through.

The Assad's rhetoric has always been anti-Israel since Israel occupies the Golan Heights.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Volkerball posted:

Very fascinating article that serves as a sort of state of the union of the regime, and the best I've seen describing the system of fragile alliances that have developed as the regime has become increasingly dependent upon fighting forces that operate outside of the government's command structure.

http://warontherocks.com/2016/08/the-decay-of-the-syrian-regime-is-much-worse-than-you-think/

I had no idea Syrian oligarchs were running their own militias independent of the regime, legally.

This is a very good and interesting read.

One news article I found says the Tiger Force is being redeployed to the Hama front due to the recent losses. The regime seems to be stretched very thin.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/tiger-forces-redeploy-hama-stop-jihadist-offensive/

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Shageletic posted:

Yeah so far so good with the Aleppo ceasefire, outside of the hold-up with aid (one report cites the UN looking for security guarantees). BBC is now reporting from Aleppo, kids are playing outside. Let's see how long this holds.

It'll last until the Syrian Army is done resupplying and consolidating it's recent gains.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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coupbrick posted:

Can a WWIII be called a World War if every nation is fighting mostly within one or two nations?

The Second Congo War is also called the Great War of Africa, Great African War, and the African World War.

Going off that somewhat similar proxy war this is the Great War for Syria, Great Middle Eastern War, World War of the Middle East.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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13 Turkish soldiers dead and 48 wounded in a car bomb attack

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Young Freud posted:

Photograph of the gunman used by the Telegraph looks like an action movie still.


Oh boy do they. Good thing we'll have cool haunting pictures to show those who survive WW3.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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The USS Mahan fired warning shots at 4 Iranian patrol boats that came within 900 yards of it as it passed through the Strait of Hormuz today.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-security-idUSKBN1520KI?il=0

Arrest warrants issued for 243 Turkish military members. Their crime?

quote:

Anadolu said the suspects were being sought on suspicion they were using Bylock, an encrypted smartphone messaging app that the government says was used by the network of Fethullah Gulen, the U.S.-based cleric accused by Ankara of orchestrating the attempted coup.

The Gulenists have infiltrated everything.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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The Plasco Building in Tehran has collapsed from a fire. 25 to 50 firemen may have been killed as it fell.

Video of it's collapse and pictures of the aftermath:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/first-photos-tehran-skyscraper-collapse-following-massive-blaze-1601956

edit: God that cloud engulfing the city reminds me of the Twin Towers falling.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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whelp Donald Trump is the President of the United States now.

How long until we bomb Iran? As soon as Bibi asks again?

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Sinteres posted:

Michael Flynn's a lunatic who desperately wants to fight Iran. The transitive property also doesn't really work in international politics--the friend of our friend (and it's too early to assume Trump will remain Russia's friend) isn't necessarily our friend.

Does Flynn want an invasion of Iran like Iraq or to bomb it?

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Darkman Fanpage posted:

Iraq, Iran. What's the difference?

https://twitter.com/brikeilarcnn/status/822905143008096260?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Looks like we won't have to find out.

Iraq War 3: Operation Oil Freedom.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Rockets hit U.N. Yemen ceasefire office in Saudi Arabia

quote:

Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya TV reported that the entrance of the building in Dhahran al-Janoub province, near the Yemeni border, had been hit by Katyusha rockets launched by the Iranian-allied Houthi group who control Yemen's capital, Sanaa.

Rough day for the Saudis.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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While not binding, the Iraqi parliament has followed through, and has recommended a ban Americans entering the country.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Grouchio posted:

Watch us start a loving war. :911:
Crossing-posting from C-Spam's Trump:

Iran brushes off Trump’s ‘empty threats’ over missile tests

Trump's gonna be pissed if he reads this since they personally insulted him. Definitely headed to war with Iran.

quote:

"This is not the first time that an inexperienced person has threatened Iran," Velayati said. "Iran is the strongest power in the region and has a lot of political, economic and military power ... America should be careful about making empty threats to Iran."

He added: "Iran will continue to test its capabilities in ballistic missiles and Iran will not ask any country for permission in defending itself."

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Republicans back tough Iran line; Trump says nothing off table

quote:

Senior U.S. congressional Republicans said on Thursday they would support new sanctions on Iran, and President Donald Trump said "nothing is off the table" in dealing with Tehran in the wake of its test-firing of a ballistic missile.

Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, said he would support more sanctions, and that the United States should stop "appeasing" Iran.

"I would be in favor of additional sanctions on Iran," Ryan told reporters at a weekly press conference. I’d like to put as much toothpaste back in the tube as possible. I think the last administration appeased Iran far too much," he said.

Republican lawmakers said they were working with the administration to push back on Iran as much as possible without tearing up the international nuclear deal announced in July 2015.

quote:

Congressional aides said Trump's administration had already begun looking at actions it could take without waiting for Congress. For example, Trump could impose sanctions authorized by laws passed but not put into effect by the Obama administration, which reached the agreement between Iran, the United States and other world powers.

Corker said he had discussed Iran at the White House with Trump's national security adviser, Michael Flynn, on Wednesday, just before Flynn issued a warning that Washington was putting Iran on notice for its "destabilizing activity."


So the Republican Congress is trying to walk some sorta tightrope where they can sanction Iran without destroying the nuclear deal, but I don't see how they can square that round hole.

I also don't see the EU, Russia, or China joining the US in a renewed round of sanctions.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/827247754074288128

I didn't expect it this quickly, but I should've.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

while i agree. didnt they break the agreement with the missle testing?
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/02/iran-brushes-off-trumps-empty-threats-over-missile-tests.html

quote:

Iran used to be prohibited from test-firing ballistic missiles under previous U.N. resolutions. However, these were superseded by a new resolution passed alongside the nuclear deal.

This only "called upon" Iran not to test-fire missiles that could be used to deliver nuclear weapons. Critics of the deal say this wording is effectively a loophole meaning the missile-testing restrictions are not obligatory.

The government in Tehran says that because it doesn't have a nuclear-weapons program, its missile tests are not violations of this clause.

Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif didn't confirm or deny the launch during a press conference Tuesday but said, "The missiles aren't part of the nuclear accords," Reuters reported. "Iran will never use missiles produced in Iran to attack any other country."

It would appear that technically they have not.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-yemen-al-qaeda-raid-killed-civilians-navy-seal-houthi-rebels/

We are reportedly shelling Yemen via our warships and appear to have been for the past five days.

quote:

Yemeni security officials said on Thursday that warships, likely American, have been firing cannons and rockets at al Qaeda militants in the country’s southern coastal areas.

The naval strikes, underway for five days, targeted mountainous areas north of the coastal town of Shakra where militants have been massing fighters, they said. Dozens of al Qaeda fighters are assembling there as well as north of the nearby town of Zinjibar.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters. They also said that al Qaeda militants on Thursday attacked the town of Lauder, further to the east, killing six soldiers.

quote:

Fighting and U.S. involvement has appeared to pick up since President Trump took office, with drone strikes and a surprise commando raid on al Qaeda militants. The Houthis also attacked a Saudi frigate in the Red Sea, killing two crew members and wounding three.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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https://theintercept.com/2017/02/02/press-secretary-sean-spicer-falsely-accuses-iran-of-attacking-u-s-navy-vessel-an-act-of-war/

Sean Spicer, US Press Secetary, has falsely accused Iran of attacking a U.S. naval vessel.

Really angling for a reason to go to war.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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https://twitter.com/New_Narrative/status/827601298170183681

Really ratcheting up the saber rattling on Iran.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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https://twitter.com/NKingofDC/status/829158212398104576

Real bang up job there. This is what? The 5th international incident?

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Bueno Papi posted:

Iranian C-130's.

C-130s are four prop, not six.

Edit: Looking more closely at the picture it is a 4 prop with fuel tanks between the props. So ya probably an Iranian C-130.

OhFunny fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Feb 28, 2017

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-navy-idUSKBN16D1X3

Another naval dance between Iran and the US in the Strait of Hormuz.

quote:

Multiple fast-attack vessels from Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps came close to a U.S. Navy ship in the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, forcing it to change direction, a U.S. official told Reuters on Monday.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the boats came within 600 yards (meters) of the USNS Invincible, a tracking ship, and stopped. The Invincible and three ships from the British Royal Navy accompanying it had to change course.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Count Roland posted:

With US forces moving more openly into Syria, I'm surprised I'm not hearing his question more: how do they leave Syria?

"When IS is defeated" sounds reasonable, but IS clearly isn't going to surrender, and no power involved will want to declare victory. For one they'd look dumb when IS massacres another bunch of people. For two, IS is such an easy bad guy, that everyone in the region can use the group as justification for all sorts of military and diplomatic maneuvers. As an enemy they're almost too valuable to lose.

So what happens to these troops? Do they get sucked into maintaining order? That is one hell of a tough job, in Syria and Iraq. Once IS is defeated, other fighting factions in both countries seem pretty ready to fall on each other. The US is going to prevent that? While keeping disposed Sunnis from going back to jihadi groups? Seems like a bad idea, but at any once moment pulling the troops out might immediately lead to violence, which encourages the US to keep troops there.

This poo poo is not going to get easier once IS is dead as a state.

These are excellent questions that I fear no one in actual positions of power are asking let alone discussing.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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ecureuilmatrix posted:

When conflicts creep up out of sight: Turkey-PKK conflict: UN report tells of '2,000 dead' since truce collapse

When Yemen gets more media attention than you, that's not good.


e: Top of the page, eh. Additional stats!
https://twitter.com/Nawaroliver/status/839524742382161921

With the SAA and SDF aligning with each other I wonder if the east and west of the SDF positions will now be de facto connected.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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https://mobile.twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/842071059750891526

edit: I really really hope there's a draw down plan somewhere.

OhFunny fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Mar 15, 2017

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Charliegrs posted:

1000 more can't possibly be all spec ops can it? And 1000 can't be more artillery troops can it? I'm truly curious what these role these soldiers will play.

As per the article:

quote:

There are already in Syria about 500 U.S. Special Operations forces operating alongside the SDF, in addition to about 250 Rangers and 200 Marines. The new U.S. troops, if approved, would probably come from parts of both the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit — a flotilla of ships loaded with 2,200 Marines that is now steaming toward the region — and the U.S. Army’s 82nd Airborne Division, of which 2,500 recently arrived in Kuwait. These conventional troops would supplement the Special Operations forces already on the ground and operate much like their counterparts fighting in the Iraqi city of Mosul.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Aliquid posted:

Damascus under surprise attack by rebels

Assad can't even secure his own capital.

Russia and Iran better be prepared to never leave Syria.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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Throatwarbler posted:

6,000 Nusra fighters are commited to the Hama offensive.

Any updates on the Hama offensive?

I've read they've come within 5km of Hama.

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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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As interesting as this discussion of a war that ended before I was born is. Let's focus on wars' that are happening now.

Like the United States readying itself to wade deeper into the Yemeni Civil War to back the Saudis and UAE.

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/846149052525957121

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