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One one hand I hope Bernie Ecclestone cancels the Bahrain GP because it is the leaders pride and joy; but on the other hand he will go absolutely mental and a lot more people are going die. There was an article in the Times saying it would be decided on Tuesday/Wednesday depending on how the situation is, so this weekend has potential to be shockingly brutal. Not really sure how it can get much worse than automatic gunfire into crowds but the protesters are going to need a lot of courage if the protests are not to stop overnight. e:I wouldn't be suprised if he had more influence on Bahrains government than the US right now
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Jut posted:I think Wikileaks is dead in the water. I think someone behind closed doors must have done some damage to prevent the BoA files release. Between the cut in funding and assange's trial, it all seems to have spluttered into nothing. Dunno about the BOA thing but they are still churning out embassy cables daily.
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Feb 19, 2011 15:17
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coleman francis posted:Now, you stop that gaddafi. Don't make us...well, you just stop all this nonsense! We wouldn't want all this commotion stressing al-Megrahi
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Feb 20, 2011 14:02
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Brown Moses posted:The Libyians in London, New York, and Manchester?!? The three city states that rule the world
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Feb 21, 2011 00:32
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Kane posted:What are the chances of anyone actually intervening at this point? We could probably cook up a medium-strong UNSC condemnation if you give us a week or two and put in a good word with China
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Feb 21, 2011 19:39
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Darth123123 posted:Libya has WMD right? No, they gave them up to stop being international pariahs
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Feb 21, 2011 19:40
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GnatKingCoal posted:I don't think you GET IT, MISTER. Oh poo poo sorry I think I just saw some, lets get'em boys
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Feb 21, 2011 19:43
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The Cheshire Cat posted:What is his plan here exactly? Does he think he can just kill everyone in the whole country and run it himself? Maybe a few thousand. People get too scared to go into the street, security forces get the upper hand and go gently caress up any ringleaders, order restored, international community does nothing to remove him from power, continue more or less as before. Even in egypt there were a lot of doubters and people who thought enough was enough. It's going to be drat hard to keep momentum going in Libya when people are getting blown to smithereens the minute they congregate or step out of the door.
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Feb 21, 2011 22:58
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Everyone who sells arms sells them to Middle Eastern dictatorships, especially Libya
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Feb 21, 2011 23:04
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Sivias posted:The former Libyan diplomat who resigned said "We don't want the west to interfere. We just want them to tell the world that what is happening there is terrible." In the interview I watched he asked for an enforced no fly zone over Libyan cities, safe passage for medical supplies into and out of egypt/tunisia and an ICC trial set up for Gadaffi
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Feb 21, 2011 23:27
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Samurai Sanders posted:Why does Gaddafi still call himself "colonel" anyway? Wouldn't he have taken the rank of general or whatever when he took over the country? Colonel as highest ranking officer Some military forces have a colonel as their highest ranking officer, with no 'general' ranks, and no superior authority (except, perhaps, the head of state as a titular commander-in-chief) other than the respective national government. Examples include the following (arranged alphabetically by country name): * Antigua and Barbuda (170 personnel) * Benin (4,500 personnel) * Costa Rica (about 8,000 personnel) * Gambia (1,900 personnel) * Iceland (100 personnel, employed only for peacekeeping duties) * Libya * Luxembourg (has only one branch, the army, with a total of 1,500 personnel) * Monaco (two branches, with a total of about 250 personnel) * Niger (8,000 personnel) * Suriname (1,800 personnel) * Vatican City State (now consisting of a single branch, the Swiss Guard) (I know it doesn't have a small military but maybe he thinks it sounds sexier than general)
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Feb 21, 2011 23:34
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Pipski posted:He has a ton of money in London banks, supposedly. It would be good if the UNSC or NATO or the EU get their poo poo together and get them frozen before he squirrels it all away like the last two dictators
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Feb 21, 2011 23:39
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Doccers posted:France has a full fleet carrier last time I checked, and they're close enough their fighters have the range to fly missions there from home. Germany too I suspect, though they don't have a carrier they can park offshore. I honestly don't know the status of the Italian air force. They have a perfectly good RAF base in Cyprus
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Feb 21, 2011 23:46
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Cacatua posted:SultanAlQassemi: Gaddadi now on TV According to the BBC, for a few seconds in a totally surreal way with an umbrella. e: and the bloke looks pretty pissed off heh, after all these hours of waiting
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Feb 22, 2011 01:10
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Slantedfloors posted:A single ship (probably not even a proper capital ship, more likely a gunboat or something) isn't going to do much more to a inland dictator in a desert than get torpedoed by a jet and sink with all hands aboard. There are ships shelling Benghazi. I wouldn't blame the defectors for a moment for getting the hell out of there rather than returning to fight for the revolution, but if they are heavily enough armed to take on a ship then they could still do some good.
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Feb 22, 2011 21:10
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Jut posted:Mubarak and CQ are two different breeds of dictator. I think towards the end Mubarak was just looking for a way to leave government while still saving face. You mean stay in power long enough to squirrel all of his loot away
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Feb 22, 2011 23:03
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Toadofsky posted:Hustle, heart, and tenacity my friend. And explosives e:in reality they probably just defected. Can't imagine many people wanting to throw their lives away for that guy now Ireland Sucks fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Feb 23, 2011 |
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Feb 23, 2011 23:39
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If the UN get him then he will die of a heart attack in a cell in The Hague long before he is convicted of anything, which is quite sad. It sounds like the population of Libya is as well armed as they are pissed off so hopefully soon you will be able to see a Saddam MkII on a streaming video site near you. Ghetto Prince posted:Isn't it a little late for him to flee? And who would ever give him asylum?
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Feb 24, 2011 19:38
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thunderspanks posted:If I was a deposed maniac looking for a relatively safe place to spend the rest of my life I too would probably have my eye on an impotent international organization who will do nothing but write strongly worded letters condemning my actions. Forget public execution, give me the wishy-washy talking heads. This episode has really messed with my perception of the international community. The amount of leaders and heads of state going "OK guys, this is a toughie but we think, just maybe, we can get a really very strong condemnation. At first it was going to be a medium strong condemnation but I put down my foot and it is now going to be a very strong condemnation. RESULT GUYS HI FIVE WHO DA MAN!" Its absolutely obvious to everyone that these people slaughtering the hell out of each in a media blackout might not know about the condemnation, nevermind give a poo poo about it. Our PM won't even support sanctions until all the Brits are safe. I guess I have a better idea how the poor bastards in Darfur feel but after seeing Iraq unfold I can't get my head around the complete inaction of heavily armed nations. Maybe I need to read up on Kosovo or some other time NATO did something useful to make feel better.
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Feb 24, 2011 19:54
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:That's not a good sign. Unless they can find the body and confirm it's him, not having him face justice for his crimes will piss a lot of people off.
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Feb 24, 2011 21:11
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Settepotet posted:Switzerland freezes all Gaddafi assets. Every asset that they know about and have access to. After siphoning oil money for 40 years that can't be a big percentage of what he owns, epecially since he saw the same thing happen to the last two dictators and probably moved all he (or his sons) could.
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Feb 24, 2011 22:58
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Feb 25, 2011 00:08
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Brown Moses posted:Zawia, 40km west of Tripoli, is apparently being heavily attacked by Gaddafi, using mercenaries, artillery and anti-aircraft guns. I actually feel a bit better about this knowing that a lot of the protestors (ie:rebels) are military and now well enough armed to fight back.
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Feb 25, 2011 23:39
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Brown Moses posted:British forces have been asked to develop plans to impose a no-fly zone on Libya, David Cameron has just told Parliament. Cacatua posted:Edit: However, most people with BPD are more likely to damage themselves than others. I know a lot of people with the disorder who are very compassionate under normal circumstances. Gaddafi seems to be quite sociopathic on top of having BPD. Men with BPD tend to be prone to violence towards others but I wouldn't be that quick to medicalise the guy: for most of his life he has had to get up and wrestle over whether he would spend his days rolling in oil money or lording over a nation with an iron fist. Suddenly out of nowhere everyone in his country wants to kill him and his and his families life is pretty much over. Denial has got to be the most predictable reaction. Ireland Sucks fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Feb 28, 2011 |
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quote not edit you know the drill
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Forget Jews, imperialists and Al-Qaeda: if I have learned anything from these protests it's that the dogs are the cause of everyone's problems and we should unite against them.
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El-ahrairah posted:Everyone deserves to elect brand new corrupt leaders every few decades.
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I'd like to think the eastern cities have had time and space to become a lot better fortified than Misrata and any further attacks will not now manage to get air support. And this foreign minister needs a bomb up his lying rear end.
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Mar 18, 2011 21:58
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I hope some footage of this emerges GIVE ME WAR PORN
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Mar 19, 2011 18:52
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I can't even listen to this guy anymore. Our Civilians! Al-Qaeda! Our ceasefire! e:OBSERVERS
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Mar 19, 2011 21:52
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Does France even have jets over Tripoli? I thought they were focussing on making rebel held areas safer first and letting the 110 death sticks do the softening of air defenses in other areas
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Mar 19, 2011 22:03
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Yeah I'm grouping this up there with such Twitter gems as 'Ghadaffi has left the country' and 'Israeli jets bombing Libya'
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Mar 19, 2011 23:55
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Stroh M.D. posted:I actually find it all a bit unfair. They aren't needed at this stage, the NATO-countries are far more capable. The Arab nations (and my native Sweden) can join up later on, when the worst of the fighting is over. We would just be in the way at this point. Politically the Arabs are needed for the US to say 'we are doing this with our Arab brothers' as they open up a 3rd front in a Muslim country. It would be very helpful for the diplomats if they were part of the initial charge too.
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Mar 19, 2011 23:57
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Brown Moses posted:Just read that Misarata has been untouched since the NFZ was actually enforced earlier today. Gaddafi's parting shots were targetting petrol stations and fuel tanks.
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Stroh M.D. posted:Funny, I have him pinned as a coward. Unstable? Sure. Crazy? No doubt. Willing to fight to death? Not...really. Like Saddam he will try to run, then hide and finally negotiate his way out of this mess. There was a retired general on the BBC earlier talking about how Saddam was generally considered to be fairly strong willed and having the courage of his convictions, whereas Ghadaffi by comparison is a bit of a slimy cowardly bastard. I don't hold it against Saddam that he tried to run the resistance from hiding instead of being riddled by bullets in a shoot-out like his sons or giving up and risk being humiliated and executed as a criminal.
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Mar 20, 2011 01:27
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Tarnek posted:Lots of explosions and gunfire in Tripoli on AJE They are saying its tracer fire so presumably someone has spotted a drone or a recon plane in the business of assessing bomb damage
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Mar 20, 2011 01:35
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farraday posted:Confirmation that RAF Tornados at some part, either during the initial strike or after, were involved in interdiction operations on Libyan air defense.
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Just because I always find them interesting on the first day of a military conflict, the more interesting front pages of tomorrow Compared with  Stroh M.D. posted:That's an interesting use of the Tornados. This little intervention is really shaping up as the euro-NATOS showing off their flashy new toys. Rafales, Typhoons and now Storm Shadows. e:update on that quote:We have launched Tomahawk land attack missiles from a Trafalgar Class submarine and Storm Shadow missiles from Tornado GR4s. The fast jets flew 3,000 miles from RAF Marham and back, making this the longest range bombing mission conducted by the RAF since the Falklands conflict. This operation was supported by VC10 and Tristar air-to-air refuelling aircraft as well as E3D Sentry and Sentinel surveillance aircraft. Ireland Sucks fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Mar 20, 2011 |
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Nombres posted:Jesus Christ, is the New of the World the Brit version of the Weekly World News or something? Who the hell would print that cover? Its a Murdoch paper that gets sued a lot for making stuff up about celebrities and is currently in deep poo poo for hacking the voicemail of royalty and politicians. Also not keen on immigration, its our dead tree Fox News with more tits.
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Orgasmo posted:I'm all for kicking Gadhafi square in the dick. But what is the next step when Mad Dog transitions to a 100% ground assault and rebels continue to get rolled?
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