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Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...
Back in 2012 I joined Psilocybin on bass. Dragos liked my old band HUGENELK, so when that ended he brought me in to replace Tanner. They had a whole album's worth of material already recorded, and Dragos was able to send me some rough working copies of the tracks, which made learning the songs a lot easier. Although Juraj and Dragos had a very clear idea of where they wanted to take the songs, we ended up changing a ton of stuff as we got used to playing with each other. It was a lot of fun! We played some shows, wrote a new song that I really liked, and were in the process of recording new parts to finish the album, but then disaster struck. For some inexplicable reason (there were a lot of inexplicable happenings with this band) the only copy of the masters was on Juraj's laptop, which got stolen. The band was starting to fizzle out at that point anyway, so we ended up going our separate ways.

Last year I was catching up with Dragos over Messenger, and I mentioned I still had those rough tracks. He got me to send them over, and I guess they were good enough to salvage something out of, because here's The Marsh Chapel Experiment, by Psilocybin:

https://psilocybin.bandcamp.com/

Some of the tracks are real rough, but at least something exists out of all the work that was put into them. edit: I have nothing to do with selling the EP. To be honest, I probably wouldn't buy it, lol

I just wish we could have recorded the songs the way we were doing them right at the end, as well as the unrecorded new song, "Ruins." drat, there were some good riffs in that one, and it's probably lost to the ether...

Juaguocio fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Jul 10, 2018

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Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

The Gasmask posted:

So, weirdly enough the Terminal guitar tone is super similar to what Acacia Strain did on Coma Witch, except with more high end. I’ve been able to replicate the main amp tone pretty well, but what I’ve noticed with these two (and very few other super low tuned bands) is that their low string intonation + string gauge is spot on enough to hit an open F power chord and not run into dissonant overtones.

I’ve been playing in that range for a while, and I have to do what most other guys do - mostly avoid power chords from open to 2nd fret on the lowest strings. Even when the intonation is spot on across the board, I end up with overtones, which cause much of the same issues.

I’ve had this on 6-8 string, 25” scales to 30”, with strings ranging from .68 for a F1 to .90 for an E1, and I’ve never been able to solve both problems. I figure there’s probably a combination of scales, gauges, and recording techniques to make that incredible low power chord, but I haven’t found it yet.

G#0 is the lowest pitch that sounds good to me. Any lower than that and the notes start to lose definition.

I don't like the feel of super heavy strings, so I don't tune my bass any lower than B0. That B string is plenty low enough for me.

We used to do C standard/drop Bb in my old band, changing the tuning between songs. Intonation? What's that?

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...
I love how Bongzilla trade their merch for weed. Their ability to get across borders is kind of surprising given how open they are about it.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...
New Hoopsnake: https://hoopsnakeriffs.bandcamp.com/album/snowmanmoth

Dig that ZZ Top cover! I love how Dave still hits all Billy's guitar licks, just at 0.75 speed.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Elrobot posted:

and some shows with Guevnna :allears:

Yeah that's gonna be a sick tour. Playing the Legion in Roberts Creek is the most Hoopsnake thing.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...
New KEN mode is also a very good thing!

https://kenmode.bandcamp.com/album/loved

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...
I saw Guevnna in a tiny little room last night, and they were totally awesome! Great riffs, excellent playing from all the musicians, and a really energetic frontman. They reminded me a lot of Church of Misery, which is appropriate given that they're also from Japan.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Weaponized Cum posted:

yeah but when youre at the bar wearing your cool KEN Mode shirt and that girl asks u about the KEN, u get a chance to blow it right then and there!

Gotta wear that unlicensed Ken shirt they used to sell on tour, that way everyone will think you're just a cool guy who likes Street Fighter.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Kilometers Davis posted:

Oh poo poo I need that without even knowing what it looks like

Also lol @ me getting owned doubly by skipping the band and then not realizing the name is a god drat Henry Rollins link



As I recall I got it on their 2015 tour.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Detective Thompson posted:

Saw the Sumac show in Boston last night, really great lineup. Infernal Coil was a huge wall of black death and killed it. Dalek was really cool, the beats are dark and heavy and makes me want to see more metal/hip hop combo shows with other groups that have the same sort of vibe going on. And Sumac was incredible. I think this is the fourth or fifth time I've seen them, and this was probably the best they've been. The parts of the show where they (seemingly at least, though it could all be rehearsed) just jam and do freeform doom are great. They also played Rigid Man, which I hadn't seen them play yet and it was outstanding. Nick Yacyshyn is a beast on the drums, and Brian from Russian Circles has a killer tone with that bass, and of course Aaron is a madman. Nate Newton happened to be at the show, which was cool, and Aaron mentioned Caleb Scofield at the end of the night, which is something that obviously still moves him, as you could see in his eyes.

What a loving show. See it if you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZNc76Jx0P0

Nick's a great guy, and pretty much lives to drum. You can usually find him at Rufus Drum Shop here in Vancouver.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Varg posted:

hello have you listened to any music about marijuana yet today? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6dBGwrnH1c

loving hell, tune your bass before you record.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Laserface posted:

High on fires new album is out today too.

I haven't listened to the whole album but it feels a little bit phoned in. Nothing has stuck out as a killer track besides electric messiah so far.

"The Witch And The Christ" is a cool track, but I agree, it doesn't seem like a very memorable album on the initial listen. I feel like there's more variety on their last record.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...
Monster Magnet are a must-see on their current tour. Dave Wyndorf is about to turn 62, and he's still rocking like a man half his age. The band he's got totally kills as well- bringing in Chris and Bob from the Atomic Bitchwax was a brilliant move.

I really liked a couple of the new songs, and the renditions of the old classics were great too. "Spine Of God" must have gone on for 12 minutes at least.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Trabant posted:

If you feel like just spinning the wheel, these compilations are mostly unknowns or up-and-comers of the genre(s):

https://doomedandstoned.bandcamp.com/music

You might find something you like!

There's a whole bunch of good stuff on the Canada one. You could easily make a killer compilation from BC bands alone- a lot of the best ones aren't even represented on the compilation.

Speaking of killer BC bands, Empress are doing a split with Piece from Germany, and a corresponding Euro tour. The track they just put up has been one of my favorites from their live set: https://thisisempress.bandcamp.com/

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Darthemed posted:

Out of curiosity, what are some of the most personally influential S/D/S albums for people in this thread? Not necessarily stuff you still listen to regularly, but albums which had a significant effect on your appreciation or perspective towards the style(s).

Queens of the Stone Age were my gateway band. I saw the "No One Knows" video on MuchMusic, then got as many of their songs as I could find on Kazaa. Then I heard about this band called Kyuss that the QotSA guitar player used to be in. I could only find a couple of their songs to download, but they sounded cool, so I went to A&B Sound and bought "Sky Valley" on CD.

QotSA were one of the most influential live shows I saw too, on the Lullabies tour in 2005. What were some other shows that influenced y'all?

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...
Fu Manchu played an awesome show. I think that's the best one I've seen them do yet. They did a lot of the new album, which sounded great, and the rest of the set was mostly killer Brant-era songs.

"Il Mostro Atomico" worked really well live. Balch is a great guitar player in his own right, so he was able to shred through the solos almost as well as Lifeson does on the album.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

hatelull posted:

I've listened to that track a ton, but really not sure what stuff is his on that track? Is he pretty much doing all the soloing?

I'm not sure if he does all the solos or if he and Balch trade off.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Eat The Rich posted:

Id really like a sds Christmas album. Hail Santa, Worship Cheer

The Dio/Iommi collab off Metal Xmas has an old school doom feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTcFz87AMoc

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...
drat it, Haggatha broke up. There goes the best sludge/doom band in Vancouver.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

I know this isn't extremely Doom or Sludge, but I haven't seen Yawning Man's new album mentioned in here yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSrY5NtF0Dk

I didn't even realize they were still together and have been quietly putting out albums the whole time.



There was discussion a few pages back about how people got into listening to this kind of stuff, and a bunch of people mentioned starting with QOTSA, Kyuss, and other desert rock. I saw a pretty good documentary called Lo Sound Desert back in November about the desert music scene and have been listening to Yawning Man, Brant Bjork, Fu Manchu, Nebula, and Fatso Jetson since then. It's on Amazon Prime right now.


Here's some Fatso Jetson that I enjoyed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTGvcyFT8qo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzS0AzJ4R9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmOMxzQeew

There was a ton of musician crossover between the original Palm Desert bands, so Mario Lalli showed up all over the place, like on this song that eventually became a classic QOTSA song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQojjK-dfN4

They were so good when I saw them a couple years ago. I try not to fanboy too hard these days, but getting the chance to shake Mario's hand and have a brief chat was definitely a "holy poo poo" moment.

His guest vocal on the first Brant solo album has long been a favorite of mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ8N7aOHN9Q

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Crouton posted:

If you didn't know they're playing Vancouver next Tuesday at the Astoria!

Word, I'll be there!

Speaking of Vancouver, I'm really enjoying the new Koma: https://komadoom.bandcamp.com/album/through-blackened-veils

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Darthemed posted:

gently caress it, here's a big post for show dates.

poo poo yeah, I'll be at Body Void/Yarrow, then CoC/Weedeater/Crowbar the next night.

Slothful Bong posted:

Holy crap, I haven't thought of Gozu since like 2011, didn't even realize they were still around.

Heard their music from the stonerobixxx blogspot thing, where sds bands would send him their records and he'd toss 'em up for review/download.

So so many amazing smaller sds bands sent in their stuff, and it bums me that's no longer a thing.

I first found Annapurna, Kamni, Year of no Light, Warhorse, Adrift for Days, Tank86, MAJOR KONG, and Snailking, among many many others.


Are there still any places that do that? Collate/collect music from small bands to give them wayyyy more exposure?

I remember going through the "Stonerrock.com Jukebox" and finding so many cool bands. I think that's the first place I heard Orange Goblin, Sgt. Sunshine, Isis, Greenleaf, etc.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Varg posted:

Should I drive 3.5 hours one way to CT and get a hotel for the weekend for this fest, or just drive 3 hours round trip to see King Buffalo in Philly this same weekend?



Oh nice, Solace still exist! I haven't heard anything from them in years.

Corrosion of Conformity were so drat good on the weekend. No Reed, but the new drummer is great. They even dug into the deep cuts and brought out "It's That Way."

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...
Mike's pedalboard from December:



Note the drink arsenal on the left.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Loving how prolific these guys have been lately. When I saw them earlier this year they played a couple new tunes that sounded really cool.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Ingmar terdman posted:

Liking the melvins is as close to a prereq for this thread as can be. Hope they come around sometime soon, it's been a few years since I've seen them

Their live show is a lot of fun right now. Steven McDonald fits really well on bass and vocals. When I saw them recently they did a Rolling Stones cover, and also brought out openers Helms Alee for a "Night Goat" encore with 2 guitars, 2 basses, and 2 drummers.

Sleep is doing a Canadian tour in September. I'm super excited to see them at the Hume Hotel in Nelson, that's gonna be a trip!

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...
The recent Sleep shows were really great, but they felt much more rigidly planned out and rehearsed than the ones I've seen in the past. They're a much tighter band now than when they first got together with Jason on drums, but they don't seem to jam as much anymore. The transitions where they would weave parts of Dopesmoker in and out of other songs were always my favorite moments at those early shows.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Snowy posted:

or don’t feel like mailing out a ton of stuff themselves.

This is a big part of it. Most musicians are pretty drat lazy about that kind of stuff. That's why record labels and managers exist.

New Elder has some great instrumental parts, but I feel like the vocals sound less and less suited to their music with each successive album.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Laserface posted:

The praise Elder are getting on facebook and reviews for the vocal is pretty weird because its absolutely the worst performance Nick has done.

The album sucks even by nu-elder standards.

Haha I decided to be diplomatic, but you're right. They should have just gotten a different vocalist once they started moving towards the more melodic singing, because Nick can't do that, at all. His vocals were so loving bad both times I saw them.

Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

sticklefifer posted:

I wasn't a fan of Nick's vocals on their self-titled. Then from Dead Roots up until Reflections it sounded like he was doing sort of an Ozzy thing. Which was fine, but it kind of didn't matter because there'd be like 1 minute of singing in a 15 minute song, especially on stuff like Lore. I like the synthy prog stuff on Omens, but for lack of a better term, Nick's vocal delivery sounds... "jowly" I guess?

If there's one gripe I have about Elder it's that they often save some of their best riffs for outros. They could have whole songs based around the riffs introduced in the last 1-2 minutes of songs like Lore, Sanctuary, or Halcyon, but they don't even start until like 10-12 minutes into the song and then they just fade out. Sometimes the songs even seems like they end before those riffs kick in, so it's like a teaser for a totally separate song they'll never actually write.

Yeah that's a good way of putting it. When I saw them live I felt like a bunch of their songs were too long- like they came to a natural sounding ending, but then just kept going.

Here are a couple killer new sludgy albums out of BC:

Heron - Time Immemorial: https://cvltnation.com/heron-time-immemorial-album-premiere
Mendozza - Soul Nebula: https://mendozza.bandcamp.com/album/soul-nebula

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Juaguocio
Jun 5, 2005

Oh, David...

Laserface posted:

Anyone got good youtube concert/documentary suggestions? been watching a few to get my gig fix and it doesnt really hit the spot but some come pretty close.

Thoroughly enjoyed the King Gizzard 'Chunky Shrapnel' film, and found this one the other night and there is some killer performances from early 2000's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSurEUOnqVA

That first song by Unida (black woman) is so intense. Really goes to show too that Josh Homme (who appears in the above doco in QOTSA) was not the mastermind of Kyuss.

The 1994 Obsessed documentary is a must see if you haven't already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJwl_5vFQi0

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