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Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
Corvettes seems to always be the worst in my region. In January one of them emptied their entire coolant supply on the track twice thanks to lovely hose clamps, and in February a different one kept going at the finish too hot (was designed to be slow), and punted the timing equipment a good hundred feet on the third run.

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Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

leica posted:

Like I said, run it on a course and see how much better (worse) you do than with power steering. Besides, I drive a FWD econobox, not a Miata.


I know for a fact it would not be fun in my car due to the manual steering, and not being competitive would add to the non fun because I'm a competitive person. Seriously, it sucks navigating a parking lot, I don't see how an auto x course would be much different.

I would track my car before I ever auto crossed it.

I find manual steering to be better than power steering in autocross in regards to feeling and response of the vehicle, and if you go fast enough you'll hardly know the difference (adrenaline might help with this). A proper alignment doesn't hurt either.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
A warning as summer approaches: drink lots of water and try to stay in the shade when possible.

We had someone faint yesterday in grid due to heat exhaustion

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
I'm getting bumped to STR next year and have to compete against S2000s, which have 100 more hp for about the same weight at my RX-7. Any clues on how to remain competitive?

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
CSP isn't really active in my division, and I'd rather not spend 8 times as much on tires per season, especially if I'm just going to win by default.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

e.pie posted:

Those autocrosses are one of the biggest things I miss since I've moved to Colorado. They were a great way to get some cheap seat time.

rmsolo.org

From the look of the video, ppir has better nuances

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

e.pie posted:

Are you in CO? I've been wanting to meet some car people here.

I'm in Boulder. There are a few north of Denver, quite a few in Denver, and tons in the Springs

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

e.pie posted:

Never heard of that. Sounds poo poo tons better than the convoluted SCCA classing system.

Eh, ran something similar in Wisconsin. Anything that would bump you up a class in SCCA usually carries enough points to bump you up in the points system.I've found neither system is really better or worse, just different ways of accomplishing the same thing.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
Anyone else notice the safety issues like course workers with backs to cars and the timing van directly in the path of finishing cars? I'm really not surprised this happened after seeing those.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

mlmp08 posted:

As has been said, walking the track helps.

I feel that the ones I attend are, generally, easy to follow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsfB8RzbS5g&list=UUsYuMu6e_ecFTy4JVA-ORcA&index=8&feature=plcp Watch in HD or you won't be able to see it well.

It helps that we use flour lines when possible.

Eh, even when I watch videos of tracks I've run, I find it hard to follow. Your eyes and swiveling head can see a lot more than some fixed camera. Ever since I started running blind (no course walks, no time as I am chief of workers and by the time all the clusterfucks are sorted out the cars are about to start running) I've figured out that looking ahead, which is hard to do from a camera view, really helps in sorting out what is what.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

The Locator posted:

Congratulations.

Content: Car is loaded on the trailer, and ready to head out at Dark-O-Thirty in the morning. This will be my first event as Solo Director for the region. Not sure how I feel about being dumb enough to volunteer for this, the last week has been pretty interesting and busy.

Just remember to say I'm sorry a lot and acknowledge that everything is your fault (even though none of it is) :)

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

Podothehobbit posted:

So here's an odd question. I posted it on our local forum board but still have not heard anything official from the local safety stewards. A few weeks ago I suffered a small fracture in my right ankle and had to get a low leg cast to immobilize it. This has not affected my ability to operate the clutch/brake/gas on my car but I was honestly curious if there was a rule/restriction out there in SCCA land that did not allow drivers to participate with a cast at all. As it is right now I currently have a cast boot that covers the entire foot as well as being able to bear my entire weight on the foot in question.

Has anyone ever run into this issue?

If you want something almost official, try posting here: http://www.sccaforums.com/forums

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
A vid from Saturday's event shows a few inches in some key places can mean a half second difference

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zltzx1Mp_1c&feature=youtu.be

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
You should have gotten RS3s :)

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

whiskas posted:

RS3s don't heat up nearly as quick. Star Specs are the way to go.

Not heating up as quick hasn't been a real problem in Colorado, even with our winter events. When the Star Specs overheat and require more than 5 minutes to cool down however, that can be a major issue.

Star Specs are ok tires. Certainly not bad if you are looking to have fun or only be locally competitive.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

peepsalot posted:

I'm a terrible environment hating criminal with no cats on my car. Does this make me ineligible for pretty much anything but some super mega unlimited class(or any class?). I've never autocrossed, but I vaguely remember reading over a rulebook that seemed to require cats for pretty much every class. How big of a problem is this.

Kicks you up to Street Prepared

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
Back to actual autocross (because there is a separate thread for the FRS/BRZ, with like all the answers and more to the crap in this thread) one of the top drivers in our region put together a coaching video from his various runs at Sunday's event. A bunch of good stuff in it, and not a half bad view (a lot better than some youtube videos I've seen).

Be sure to have sound on, because he actually talks about what is going on in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_woZLAcR5aI&feature=youtu.be

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
That stopbox looks terrible, and dangerous. If you brakes failed before the turn, you'd have about 30 feet until you hit what look to be spectators. We just had a huge thing in our region about making stops that are straight because when you have a sharp turn before the stop, people were going at, and often above their limits to get that last hundredth of a second off of their time and ended up punting two of our timing lights a good 40 feet.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

Muffinpox posted:

Speaking of which I've been waiting to order new tires since the ambient temp keeps dipping below 40. Now I'm debating whether to buy RS3/DSS for daily driven tires that I'll use at auto-x for my AP1 S2000. Has anyone tried these back to back? I'm leaning with DSS since I'm mainly concerned about wet performance, but from what I've seen the RS3s aren't as good in the rain but are heads an shoulders above most street tires for wet grip anyways. Also the AP2 sizes are in stock for RS3s since not many cars use them.

Star Specs will handle the cold better

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

Sockington posted:

The wife's Mazda5?

Just don't tell the wife

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

ExecuDork posted:

Also, tires. My current tires are all-seasons apparently designed for endurance on long smooth highways, hence they have no grip and I'm probably melting them all over the parking lot. When they inevitably fail, I'll be looking for something that I suspect might be impossible.
- decent grip (not spectacular, just not terrible) for auto-X
- all-weather capability (I have winter tires for winter, but anything from rain to early-winter sloppy wet snowfall)
- not going to get shredded on a gravel road.

That's an impossible combination, isn't it?

Star spec or S.Drive.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
S.Drives are a good balance, but don't excel in any one particular area, which sort of fits the bill, since each ExecuDork wants balance between many different conflicting areas. I'd recommend Falken 512s, except they tend to get chewed up in Autox

Brigdh fucked around with this message at 21:54 on May 30, 2012

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

Muffinpox posted:

What about Hankook V12 Ventus? I've only seen one car with them but they were faster than my S.drives in the wet and also felt like they had better handling characteristics.

Never tried em, nor do I know of anyone who has. Sorry

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

The Locator posted:

Khumo V710's. The best all weather tires.* :q:

*for Phoenix

A couple ST* guys here in Colorado run Star Specs year round, but if v710s are anything like Hoosier A6s, standing water will kill you.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

kimbo305 posted:

Is there a page listing SSF (as it seems to abbreviate when I google) for most cars?

Not that I've seen. The most comprehensive source is NHSTA, and they've moved away from straight SSF numbers


Crustashio posted:

Canada. We switched to the scca rulebook here last year but I don't think all of the organizing clubs are really well versed in it yet. Yesterday they were telling us we can blow the rear stop box coned as those aren't a time penalty, but I always though overshooting the box was a DNF.

Any cone anywhere (hell even in grid) is a penalty. Going out of the stop box and not reentering where you left is a DNF, although most corner captains I know won't call it in because the 7+ cone penalty you got in the process will already kill the run.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

kimbo305 posted:

Our regional rallycross uses a hydraulic tube that you lay over the finish, like the ones the DOT uses to measure traffic. Much less finicky than lights when you're slinging rocks and dirt up. Aren't more autox orgs using this as well?

good lights are not bad, and don't get hosed up when a car goes through the finish sideways

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
I got my SA2010 (HJC AR-10 2) from soloracer.com

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

the poi posted:

Been looking at the same one. You like it?


Also I'm going to my first autocross in September (if available), god I hope I don't gently caress up.

Mostly, just a minor nitpick. I think I have a slightly odd shaped head because if it isn't sitting just right the "chin" part of the helmet is right next to my chin and can interfere with talking. Unfortunately for me, its one of the best fitting helmets I've tried, so I deal with it. I just have to shuffle it a bit until it fits right.

I wouldn't worry about loving up much. Worst thing I've ever seen happen was the owner of an Audi S4 accidentally shifted into reverse instead of first at the start, and ended up launching in the wrong direction. He caught the mistake in time and just rubbed bumpers, but the chief of safety still had to write an incident report.

Don't expect to win anything, but do expect to have tons of fun.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

The Locator posted:

ProSolo is completely different. It is run with two cars on a Christmas-tree drag race start on mirror image courses, with competitors doing multiple runs on both sides in fairly quick succession, and your best time on each side counting. Unlike regular autocross, your time starts when the light goes green, so reaction time and launch are a big factor.

Solo 1 was basically time trials, and as far as I know, they still call it time trials in the Club division

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

Muffinpox posted:

Nice, I need to relearn my downshifting technique, I like to use the side of my foot and have problems missing the gas if I downshift during cornering. Obvious solution is don't downshift while cornering but sometimes u need to drift bro.


edit: This is the kind of run you ask people to delete :lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoXi43DC6qA

You might want to look at how you attack slaloms too. Your steering input seemed fairly late and quite jerky. Smooth it out, turn earlier, and go faster.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

Muffinpox posted:

Is that commenting on one of my S2000 videos? I'm not driving the lotus, DNFing on the exit box is usually just embarrassing.

Sorry, I assumed the lotus was you, although if your July 7th video is any indication, you could smooth out your steering a bit as well. The lotus driver seemed like he had set steering positions, and would jump quickly from one position to the next then hold that position for a bit. In contrast, you started out good on turning in early and smooth, but then something happened about half way though. Seemed like something threw you out of your grove and caused you to start turning in later, which seemed to make you turn more, which then ended up being too much. You then corrected quite a bit fast.

Serious question, do you talk to yourself on a run?

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

Muffinpox posted:

Yea, I let my eyes drop. I wasn't sure if you were commenting on earlier videos where I tend to slow down/speed up in slaloms and end up being late and wide vs. taking them at steady state throttle, another S2000 owner had the same critique about too much steering input unsettling the rear making me slow.

I'll swear but I usually only talk if there's a passenger onboard, the camera location doesn't really show when there's someone in the car. I have a video where I'm trying to show a novice how far he should be looking ahead and if he wasn't talking you would think I was just motivationally instructing myself.

You might try talking to yourself, even if you are alone. I've found it helps to process what you are seeing and doing during the run and after. Things like "where is that pointer cone" during a run can help to remind you where to look, and "poo poo I was late here" will help you remember after the run what to correct.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

TrueChaos posted:

Last Ottawa event of the year... one more at Picton airfield this weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw7uofdn8Y4

Round we go!


Holy body roll!


Any feedback (things to work on) would be great!

Not bad, but plenty to work on. I personally think the camera angle sucked, however there not much you can do in that car to "fix" it. Basically I had a hard time seeing the course until you were on top of it, and difficulty gauging how close you were to the cones, until I saw that you were way off (more on that later).

Good things: you look ahead, most of the time. You are finding the next element and figuring out where you need to go before you complete the current one. Its a little hard to see from the video if you are doing it all the time, but you seem to be doing it most of the time. Its something you'll have to constantly work on, but you seem to understand the basics.

"Bad" things:
-From the video, it sounded like you coasted a lot. Generally you want to be either gas, brake, or modulating the throttle (keeping you speed up/small acceleration in sections where you can't go flat out).

-It looked like you were several feet off of nearly every cone, especially in the turns that were over 90 degrees. If you are in a U-turn and you are 4 feet off that apex cone, you just went 8 feet out of your way (4 out and 4 back). Start aiming to hit cones until you actually do. It'll tell you where the body of the car ends and where you need to be. Then back off a bit so you stop hitting cones, but are still right on top of them. I'm assuming the camera was a gopro based on the fish eye distortion. Mount it on the rear quarter panel on one side of the car with the large suction cup so that you get a good view of how far off the cones you actually are.

-Your steering inputs are late, and you need to connect features together. Turning early means you turn less, which allows you to go faster and straightens out the arcs thus minimizing distance. For connecting features together, study the slaloms. I saw you go up to a cone, turn, go straight, go to the next cone, turn, etc. The whole thing should be constant back and forth fluid motion. The steering wheel shouldn't be static and there shouldn't be any straight parts. Once you've got it linked together, you should notice you can carry a lot more speed. Then you should start working on "backsiding" the cones in the slalom. Basically you want to be turning so far ahead that you are starting to turn for a cone when you are next to the cone before it. If you draw a line between two cones in a slalom, you want to cross that line right on the backside of the first cone and start turning right around when you do that.

Does your club allow you to ride in other people's cars? If so, I would recommend you take advantage of that. Ride in cars similar to yours (if possible) and pick out one major thing others are doing that you are not, such as slamming on the brakes. Then experiment with that thing on your runs for a few events.

Remember, its cones in a parking lot. Don't get too focused on what you suck at to the point where its not fun. Its supposed to be fun, and most of your improvement comes from experience, pushing the limits a little bit each day, not trying to make massive improvements in one go.

Brigdh fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Oct 10, 2012

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

TrueChaos posted:

Thanks! This is exactly what I needed. Looking ahead is the one thing I've really been working on all season, and it has definitely helped. I'm normally closer to the cones, but we had 3 runs in either direction that day, and in both cases I coned my first two runs trying to get close to the cones, so my third run I backed off a bit to get a clean run in. It's definitely something I've been more conscious of lately - especially in 90 degree or more turns. I'll definitely try a different mounting position for the gopro next event.

I've been doing as many ride alongs as I can, and it's definitely helping. If you had to pick one specific thing to work on next, what would it be? I find I can learn better if I try and focus on improving one bit at a time.

And don't worry - I'm having way too much fun, I just like to improve! I wasn't sure what I should be working on next, as I wasnt able to get much advice at local events. I did... Maybe 2 events last year, + this season, so I'm still relatively new to this :)

I agree, only focus on improving one thing at a time, because what ends up happening is your normal skills suck a bit as you concentrate on the new thing, which ends up splitting you concentration as you try to keep you skills at their normal level while working on the new thing.

I'd say steering is probably most important for you right now. Once you start getting it "right", it will unlock greater speed potential. Even though it sounds backwards, I've found that you generally need a minimum speed to drive a slalom correctly, and the faster you go, the easier it becomes. The back and forth weight shifts from faster speeds actually help turn the car (not drifting though)

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

TrueChaos posted:

Will do! One of the things I've been told before is to try to be more smooth with my steering inputs - is that kind of what you mean? I'm trying to wrap my head around what to be thinking about during a run. For example, I've been telling myself to look up for most of the season, and I put a piece of tape across my windshield and tryed not to look below it. Maybe if I focus on linking my turns?

Linking turns, which is part of being smooth, involves looking ahead. Not only are you looking at where you are, and where you need to be, but also where you need to be after that, and trying to form one smooth arc that links all three. This is different than "point to point" driving where you get to where you need to be next, then you decide how to continue. There is a slalom in your video at about 30 seconds. To enter, you jerked the steering wheel left. Visually what I saw was you exited that turn, then decided you needed to be over to the left to enter the slalom. Since you were already on the slalom when you decided that, you had to make a big steering input that didn't flow well from what you did before.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

Phone posted:

At least go HP+.

Why recommend HP+? For street and autocross, they are generally dusty, noisy, and overly aggressive (pads and rotors will wear out much faster). With those two things being the focus, and track days being rare, I'd go with the HPS instead.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

mattdizzleZ28 posted:

Autocross video time! My third event and the first time i managed to make gopro work and would like some criticism (positive and negative) on how i can get better at this whole malarkey. Driving technique, car upgrades, camera angles, everything is fair game. I tried to make this not a boring "hood cam" video, becuase nobody but the driver likes those.

First run is a track learning slow run, I didnt tighten the mount in the second video so it wobbles a bit, stick it out the third run looks objectively cool :) Personal FTD is second run before the rain started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrAsaPf23rY

Good enough for second or third place in CSP on street tires in a pretty big event. The car above me and below me were on r comps, and the car above me was a rocket ship i dont think i could have competed with :( His time: 0:46, my time 0:54 buddys r comp s2000 time: 0:57.

Sorry to poo poo on your parade, but that video is not very good from a coaching standpoint. I can't see your hands, I can't see your helmet (thus where you are looking), and two of the views don't give me any sense of the course.

First view: you were probably 2-3 feet off of every cone you should have been only a few inches off of on the left side, which is the easy side to get correct.

Second view: I can kinda see the course, but the massively uneven angle makes it hard to comprehend without really concentrating. I would probably watch the section 50 times and really comment, but I'm not gonna go through that effort. Only thing I got from this was you were feet off of important cones on the right side as well

Third view: bloody hell, this is terrible. Interesting and artsy, but utterly terrible for coaching. Also, the camera was mounted too low. If you were on the cones like you should be, then your camera would have been knocking them over.

I probably could comment more, but I'm not putting in the effort unless you make it easy for me.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

Ziploc posted:

Cameras are cheap. Multi-angle dat poo poo.

Also, if you put a camera IN the car. Make sure it can see as much as YOU as possible. A lot can be learned from things like hand placement, where your head is turned, etc.

This is my go to setup for analyzing my own runs. You can achieve this easily with a two point&shoots (for interior and pedal camera) and a GoPro. And a tiny bit of editing after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq-hgJ35ipg

Just curious, what are you using to sync the multiple videos? A loud clap?

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

Ziploc posted:

That is exactly how to do it.

I was wondering if you happened to have a novel different way to do it.

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Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.

Ziploc posted:

I should have worded it differently. That's how I do it.

I think I picked up the idea after syncing video manually for a while. Then noticing how easy it was when there was an audio hit somewhere. Then I remembered the clap board things. Then my mind exploded.

Yeah, typically it works really well, I've just had some issue with it depending on camera location, and ambient sound in grid, so I was wondering if you happened to be doing something different.

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