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maduin posted:Can't he, in all likelihood, just keep paying $30/mo for his unlimited data? Until his next upgrade I would imagine so. My only complaint on capped internet is the style that AT&T does it (and Verizon llikely will do a similar format) of charging for buckets of data. I would prefer a Euro system where they just throttle after you hit your 200MB or 2GB cap (like TMobile is doing). Would people rather pay more for unlimited? A lot of goons screamed bloody murder when Sprint raised data charges by $10 a month, but honestly curious which people would take? I think the perfect scenario is throttling, but it likely makes carriers the least money so i wouldn't expect it. I use 2GB of data a month on my phone, and fiance as a non-heavy user uses 1GB. I really wouldn't enjoy being on a data capped plan myself I will admit. That being said, I think the days when we could just tether off our phones for home internet without getting charged extra are waning.
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Dirk Diggler posted:Need someone who works for Verizon or is very familiar with account transfers to answer this one. Basically a couple of years ago I got an account with Verizon, and then a few months later the company I work for added my phone to their corporate account. It's been this way for the past couple years. Why not just use the company phone for calling, and get a LG optimus V off virgin mobile? $25 a month, just use it for internet only. Coverage wont be quite as good, but still could get you the equivalent phone cheaply.
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sicarius posted:Anyone know of any 3G outages? I have no service here in Tennessee at the moment... all apps are reporting no connection to the internet on my Droid X. Are you in Nashville? We apparently just had a major storm, and those tend to knock out signal and towers sometimes...
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May 24, 2011 14:13
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Professorbx posted:Indeed. I remember telling my brother once that HTC could do no wrong, and when it came to WinMo, they made some GREAT phones for the day. The Shadow was a great example-it was a cheap candy bar Windows Mobile phone that could run circles around my brother's iPaq. Now though...... Can't speak for the Thunderbolt, but other than a known micro USB issue with the Evo HTC has a solid solid lineup on Sprint. Honestly, beyond the fact that every HTC phone I have personally owned has been great, my exchange/return rate on HTCs is easily half that of Samsung. LG is really good overall too.
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Ironic since I am doing really well with Sprint, but Cellular Sales reached out to me asking for an interview, and I never decline interviews. Since I'm likely moving in a few months, could be nice timing anyway. I've heard nothing but good things about them, but just checking here to see if anyone has personal experience with them?
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Jun 13, 2011 13:29
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serewit posted:As a former Verizon employee who had to fix the innumerable issues that chucklefucks from Cellular Sales caused for customers, I would advise anyone thinking of working for them to run far, far away. Everything Mighty Horse posted is 100% spot-on from my conversations with them, and on top of that, they practice incredibly shady practices with their customers - anything to close a sale. I can't count how many times they would resell equipment that had been returned as new, for instance. That answers that then. Weird thing is my friend loves working there, and is a pretty ethical Guy. He insists the best part is commissions getting split between everyone working at the time, so even if you have bad luck and get service questions all day, you still make money. That's how I loosely have my sprint store run, that way people just take care of the customer. Meh, sprints been taking care of me fine anyway.
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Jun 19, 2011 14:56
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Data plans: If this is the case my job at Sprint just got so much easier, even with current Verizon people getting grandfathered in.
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Jun 21, 2011 01:26
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hotsauce posted:Wow. Thank God I have unlimited data. I can't imagine how lovely it will be for Verizon sales reps to try and recruit new customers. Honestly selling for mobile stuff like that is easy, just explain wifi. If people are handling it on att then they will handle it. And honestly, I do have to say wireless right isn't Frickin cable internet. Verizon has great coverage, but they don't have the spectrum to support unlimited internet for a customer base that large. So really, either they cap internet, or we have daily outages. My big complaint is the buckets, I think that is a ripoff. Just throttle like they do in Europe. Unfortunately buckets is way more money for them , so that is how it will have to go.
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Jun 21, 2011 05:13
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Customer: Well, if I have to use Netflix on WiFi then, can I just forego the data plan and use a smartphone with voice service and WiFi data only? Ha very very true. Torael_7 posted:Yes and between the small selection of companies available and the fact that many people don't really have a grasp on what a given amount of data actually equates to, they can continue to get away with it. This plus with AT&T buying the only carrier that throttles instead of by the bucket, means America is screwed. Sprint is nice, but there are just a ton of people in rural areas that will only have one option.
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Can someone link me to the article on Verizon discontinuing discounts on data add ons?
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Jun 24, 2011 23:43
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AlexDeGruven posted:FTFY Xbox live really needs more features, as it is I don't see the point of it beyond messaging friends (which I can do via IM). The OS is fast and certain people like it. They just have a big hurdle over the people who want Android/iPhone because their friends tell them to, and they need to at least equal features.
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Jun 29, 2011 16:16
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fnkels posted:To anyone thats on the fence about hoping on Verizon, Amazon Wireless reduced the subsidized price of the Thunderbolt and the Revolution to $99 and $.01. I'm surprised they dropped the Revolution so much.. Is it really that unpopular? Big Box will take a loss on certain phones because people will come in and buy multiples or decide on the pricier one. If they have one customer get a Revolution for himself and a Thunderbolt for his wife, Amazon just made the difference there. Acrolos posted:I would guess that the Revolution is forgotten because of how horrible every other Android phone they have made has been. My fiance had the Ally, and its the worst smartphone I've ever used...and I think that is currently their second best Android phone. No manufacturer is perfect, but I would argue LG makes great smartphones overall. The Alley, however, would not be one of those great ones.
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Penguissimo posted:Isn't the G2x also a disaster, software-wise? I think it makes sense to be cautious about LG until they prove themselves with at least one hit. They're sort of the new Samsung. drat, you got me there.
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ManiacClown posted:Just yesterday my wife got a new LG Cosmos Touch (after signing a new agreement, naturally). After charging it and getting Backup Assistant set up, she got in the tub, came out, and found either a deep scratch or a crack on the screen. The more I look at it the more I think it's a crack. The odd thing is we have no idea how it could have gotten there. Our kid was asleep and where it was, had one of our cats jumped up there it would have fallen on the floor. Only thing against you I would say is that leaving a phone in the bathroom when showering or anything risks water damage, and any wireless person will likely point that out as a reason not to exchange it. And given how many dumbasses actually do crack their phones then try to exchange them, that tends to kill the system for being lenient on weird scenarios like yours.
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Jul 1, 2011 22:04
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Radio Nowhere posted:My wife just upgraded her phone to a Thunderbolt from a Storm2, needless to say she's very happy. I noticed while we were buying her's 3 other people got Tbolts too. I asked if there has been increase in sales since the tiers announcement and it was a resounding yes. So there's punishment for Verizon's tiering, increased sales. I hope they learn! You always get a run on sales with people trying to get in before the new policies hit. I had a great end of January because February 1st sprint started charging an extra $10 for all smartphones.
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NofrikinfuN posted:I'm actually waiting for the 7th before I buy a new phone. The tiered plans are a net positive compared to the current tethering plans IF you use more data tethering than you do on the device. Personally, I've never gone above 400mb or so on mobile data, but I hit around 5gb tethering every month. Or just root the phone and tether without paying? I think $30 a month for tethering is crazy. I hit 3+GBs on my Evo this month. I couldn't do a cap.
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kalibar posted:I consulted the mindless drones in Verizon's chat about whether or not we'd get to keep the employer discount on data. They say yes (which could just as easily be wrong), but hey, at least I have something in writing. Definitely agreeing with you that you should be grandfathered in, but I want to note that I have nightmares about having customers like you (extremely determined and specific) 
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Jul 5, 2011 14:23
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yamdankee posted:I recently moved from an apartment that had great signal to a house that has pretty poor signal. Before I start paying for two forms of Internet again (cable + 3G), is there a recommended signal booster device that I can buy? Googling comes up with a lot of results but I have no idea where to begin with this sort of thing. There is a signal booster thread in IYG and goons who have used specific boosters and recommend them.
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sadus posted:Mainly just on principle, based on bad childhood memories of my small home town's single cable modem provider also abusing their near monopoly by having really lovely quotas. But even with no ethics in the equation, sooner or later they are bound to cancel the unlimited plan grandfathering, at which point everyone will be hosed. Even if that lets people get out of their contracts without ETFs I'm sure they will be wanting their hardware subsidy money back. I think the rates that Verizon has set out are absolutely ridiculous, but in terms of capping there may not be a perfect option (except for throttling, which still has my vote). Verizon only has so much capacity, and they have a boatload of users switching to smartphones. So its either capped internet or a higher rate of outages and/or slow internet. The comparison of cable to wireless is not really a fair comparison (from what I understand anyway) as wireless cannot even handle close to the amount of usage that cable can. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, and I'd love to hear other's thoughts on this. And no guarantees Sprint will ever not cap internet either, but they do have a lot more capacity to go the distance, assuming they don't go under.
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WeaselWeaz posted:Agreed. Even at my heaviest I've never hit 2gb, I think. However, I usually have 4G off and use wifi at work and home. It may be different once I'm sitting at the airport for a few hours. I don't get this. I use 3G only on my Evo (stock Android still sucks for Sprint 4G), I'm usually on WiFi at home and still hit 2-3GB a month. I do stream a lot of RDio now, but only occasional Netflix. Very little tethering. I'm 6 days in to my current cycle and have already used half a gig. I think the big thing that sucks about it is people are now moving towards movies (Netflix) and music (iTunes, RDio, Spotify, Google Music) in a cloud. I became a recent RDio convert (Spotify may change that) and my usage has spiked recently as a result, because the main place i use that is in my car driving, which is at least 1 hour a day right there and on occasion much more. Unfortunately, the result is going to be training regular people to "only watch Netflix when on WiFi," which unfortunately defeats the purpose of a smartphone in my opinion.
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sadus posted:Whoops, I meant to say no video chat slider in that calculator, not voice chat. They don't necessarily have the capacity to handle it though, that's my point. 700MHz is great on building penetration, but Verizon splits it with AT&T and I think one other. Right now VZ is obviously handling it mostly ok, but long term would still be questionable.
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Kyrosiris posted:And goodness, it's not like Verzion makes 10 billion in profit per year and thus have a huge war chest if they ever needed to upgrade capacity... See response below, but it isn't about cost, Verizon only has so much capacity at 700MHz. It doesn't matter if you have the money to build more towers, if you max out on your spectral assets at that frequency well you're SoL. To give you general numbers: Verizon: 40MHz of spectrum AT&T: 40MHz of spectrum Sprint: 120 MHz of spectrum. Am I biased because I sell Sprint? Probably, but having a lot less spectrum with a ton more users means something has to give. I'll be the first to say I figured Verizon speeds would have slowed down by now and from what i understand they haven't, but to Verizon's credit they always seem adamant about having the coverage/speeds they advertise, which leads to: WithoutTheFezOn posted:Back to your original question, Duckman, assuming they really are having capacity issues I also think throttling would be the best solution for consumers. But in addition to throttling (most likely) netting them less money, there's also a potential PR problem -- if people start getting throttled, it's an admission that you have a capacity problem. Going to tiers and talking about "heavy users" "carrying their weight" allows you to spin the change as proactive, preventing a performance problem before it exists. Just looking out for you customers. Interesting thought process on the PR aspect. Its interesting how Verizon's marketing is so heavily on being the best network, and the steps they could be taking to get there.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:What is the difference between Verizon and Sprint services in terms of data and calling reception? My wife and I are considering switching from Verizon to Sprint but I would like to stay with Verizon so I need selling points (or points to agree with her if it would be better to go with Sprint) Verizon does have the best reception nationwide. Especially if you go to rural areas, Verizon is most likely to have coverage. Same goes for having some kind of internet, and there is no doubt they have now surpassed sprint on 4g coverage and will have the best 4g coverage (and probably fastest too ). Sprint is cheaper and puts all value in one. If you use call text and internet, for most people sprint has good rates. Sprint offers roaming off verizon where they dont have coverage, so in theory it is the same coverage but cheaper. Not necessarily the case, I would say that depends on where you live. 3g internet speeds are the same. 4g verizon kills sprint 4g, for new smartphone users sprints big thing is unlimited internet. My main thing would be do you have smartphones on verizon yet? If you do, you have unlimited internet and it is a no brainer to stay with verizon and stay grandfathered. If you do not, well then weigh the costs and value difference, see which one is better. Kalibar is mostly on the money with the point that the data caps are just poorly priced (i still think they should be throttled). Personally, sprint 4g in nashville mossssstly works fine, so I dont have a lot of problems with 2500mhz. But I know other cities have that problem, so it is a valid point. bull3964 posted:Keep in mind as well that Verizon is eventually going to phase out their CDMA networks. There's nothing stopping them from lighting up LTE on additional bands when that happens. A good point, all I would question is whether current phones could read a 8000mhz lte band or if they would not be able to pick up the new frequency? And if I got verizons 3g frequency wrong I am sorry, long day. Duckman2008 fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Jul 9, 2011 |
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kalibar posted:It's not about new people signing up, it's about people who already signed contracts. It's universally understood that you can transfer the responsibility of a contract to someone else in the event you don't want it anymore and know somebody who does. It's loving bullshit for Verizon to decide that they'll be removing the desirable characteristics of a signed agreement while fighting tooth and nail to uphold said "agreement" if the contractholder exercises his or her contractual right to transfer liability. Verizon has their positives, but bending over backwards to customers is not one of their known traits. It was a logical thought and a bummer, but I'm not exactly surprised Verizon is keeping a loophole closed. I will even go as far as saying the positive is you won't have assholes selling grandfathered unlimited internet Verizon plans for $xxx dollars. Same reason Sprint charges the $10 a month data plan even if it is a Palm Centro, Instinct or Windows Mobile 6.x phone, they want the stuff to die out and they don't want a "black market."
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ExcessBLarg! posted:But you can still do a ToL on an on-contract pre-smartphone-tax Optimus or something right? I would think so on point one, yes. I honestly have yet to have that come up. I'm not defending them on it, I'm just saying I don't know why anyone is surprised? Verizon has a history of dicking over customers, as do cell carriers in general. Maybe I'm being overtly pessimistic?
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Ziir posted:My sister has a Droid 2 with Verizon and she just got it replaced again, making it like the 8th Droid 2 she's had now. They keep replacing it free of charge so I'm assuming it's something wrong with the phones themselves and I think after two times its just getting ridiculous. She keeps begging them to just give her another phone (different model) but they keep refusing, but they do say she can pay for a new phone at a discounted price. That seems like a load of bullshit, and she should keep pushing. Worst case though, I would think she could get a new phone for $200ish and then sell the Droid 2 for about equivalent?
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Hamburglar posted:I'm confused; what's the "black market" of having one of those phones? There's a data-plan scheme or something? As mentioned, certain phones are or were grandfathered in on features. So even when the carrier discontinues the phones, people still buy them used online. Beyond the value of the phones staying up, the issue for carriers if people buying those phones are mnot signing contracts. In the US people not under contract are the biggest risk of churn.
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slackerbitch posted:I have so much hate for Verizon right now. My original Droid is on its last legs, and I'm due for an upgrade. BUT. I can't stand the Pentile screen for the Droid 3 screen, this unreleased Samsung phone is last year's Sprint phone with an LTE tacked on, and my other option for a keyboard with Android is to go back to a Droid 2. Want a Droid X for $200? I have one in prestine condition I need to sell. That would get you over the hump until whenever Verizon gets a decent phone again.
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Jul 20, 2011 06:30
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Yeah loving Motorola dipshits who designed the Photon ... wait the Thunderbolt has this problem too? The Photon though the kickstand is strong enough that you literally just flip it hte other way and it still works. I don't think this is the case for the Thunderbolt unfortunately, but at least the Photon has a partial solution.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:If they're not high volume sellers, that's due to the sales and promotion approach. There's no reason to think a Nexus device won't sell comparable to a HTC or Motorola one with the right marketing and promotion. The Nexus S is at $50 out the door, being promoted and still sells like crap on Sprint. I like the phone, but the return rate is really high, and not just because of the signal problems. 3rd party skins can suck, but I will say from experience that at the least, HTC Sense is way more user friendly, especially with facebook and social stuff. Plus carriers can't put their garbage spam apps on the Nexus. Duckman2008 fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Aug 28, 2011 |
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doctor thodt posted:Wow, that's really awesome, and kind of unreal. Couldn't someone conceivably take advantage of that and just get a new phone every three months? Exchange periods are always from contract start date, an exchange does not reset this.
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bull3964 posted:I've been playing with battery modes just so I can get an idea of what to expect. It's a good idea, but Verizon is possibly trying to push people to stay with 4G to offset strain on the 3g network. Edit: Sohcahtoa82 posted:WHAT?! He's right though, there are a lot of people who buy a phone with a keypad and end up not using it. For quick typing purposes why slide a keypad when typing on a touch screen comes up quicker. For 90% of people the only real purpose of s physical keypad it probably to wean them on a touch screen. Duckman2008 fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Sep 14, 2011 |
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ExcessBLarg! posted:It's not an all or nothing thing. Swype, SwiftKey, and whatever, are great for SMS, short emails, typing in a search query, basically 80% of my smartphone input needs (and I suspect 99% of everyone else's). But hardware keyboards have their place too. My advice on charging a Bluetooth keypad is what i do with my current Bluetooth headset: make sure it uses microusb and make sure you have a dual charger at home, work, and car. Honestly, I usually just charge my Bluetooth in the car now a days over night, and its fine. Possibly not the healthiest, but it is just a Bluetooth.
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Anonononomous posted:Has there been any talk about Verizon getting any more Windows Phone 7 options? Or am I stuck with the Trophy for the foreseeable future if I choose to go that route? I haven't heard of anything, you may see something, but so far windows phone 7 is pretty gsm focused.
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bull3964 posted:That's probably why Pittsburgh was a launch city. Just enough population and Verizon fiber is everywhere around here. I'm sure the infrastructure they put in place for the widespread FIOS rollouts probably pays dividends in providing backhaul to cell sites. That and your drat football team is always a winning team 
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Rastor posted:Port your numbers to a prepaid service like Page Plus, then sign up for the deal? All major carriers have a time limit, once you cancel you can only sign up with a new contract after 60 days or something like that. And the reason pricing is different is that Verizon pays amazon more for new customers than upgrades, and Amazon passes along that pricing.
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"Aatrek" posted:It scares me a bit that Best Buy has the Bionic off-contract at $699 - that's where I wanted to get the Nexus (as I have some gift cards saved up). VZW sells it off-contract for $589. Best Buy always marks up the outright pricing of phones.
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Don Lapre posted:Cancelling because someone died is for the account holder. All the lines are yours really, you just let her use one. Can't speak for Verizon, but on sprint the policy is you just send in the death certificate and it gets canceled. I had it happen to my customers mom, and even though it was not in the moms name, they canceled it no fees.
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