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PitViper
May 25, 2003

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bull3964 posted:

Verizon is inspecting traffic and redirecting what it can detect as tethering to a portal to purchase official tethering.

When did this start? My dad and I both use our phones via Wireless Tether when we're up north fishing on weekends, and I've never encountered anything like this. He's on a Vortex 2, and I'm on the Incredible. Both rooted, obviously.

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May 25, 2003

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If it actually IS that low, how's the signal where you were? Having a very weak signal will drain a battery fast as well.

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May 25, 2003

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I think the Incredible 4G might finally be the upgrade from my original Incredible. I like the smaller size, and hopefully it'll be rootable/flashable like the original. I've played with the Razr Maxx and Galaxy Nexus, and I just can't get comfortable with the larger size. Plus they're supposedly lighting up LTE in my area in July/August.

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May 25, 2003

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Ugh. They need to hurry up with the Incredible 4G release. I'm due for an upgrade, but the Razr Maxx is tempting too. I just want the better possibility of a rootable/flashable phone, so I'd rather not go Motorola.

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May 25, 2003

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gently caress. Well, guess I'll be burning my upgrade before the 28th. Either Inc4g, or the Razr Maxx. And unless the girlfriend really wants to hop onto a family plan, I'll stick with my current plan until they kick me off, then hop to a more reasonable carrier.

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May 25, 2003

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I'll be upgrading to a Maxx or Inc4G before the 28th, just in case. I'm in the same boat, still on a grandfathered unlimited 3G plan, and I want to make sure I lock in my unlimited 4G before Doomsday.

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May 25, 2003

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joeshmoetogo posted:

Fuuuuck. Was really hoping to wake up today and see it on Verizon's website. Time to activate the contingency plan.

drat. Yea,looks like I'll be ordering a Maxx today. Much as I'd prefer the Nexus on principle, the radio issues are enough to scare me away. Maybe I'll just buy the Inc4g when it launches, and sell the Maxx.

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May 25, 2003

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Well, I ordered my GNex last night. I stopped by the local store, and played with the Rezound and the Nexus, and decided to gamble on the Nexus. I also verified with the Rep that warranty issues will not affect my plan, but exchanging for a different device will. Also, stock ICS on my Xoom has been a better experience than either Gingerbread on my Inc or Sense on the Rezound.

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May 25, 2003

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Loving my GNex so far. It does report very low signal strength, but haven't had any data or voice issue yet. Also no 4g in my area, but I'll get to try that next week when I go home for a couple days. Battery life is about on par with my OG Incredible so far. Might try the extended battery for it too.

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May 25, 2003

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Apparently the My Verizon app doesn't work on alternate ROMs, either. At least not on CM9 rc1. It wants something called the Verizon Login Client, whatever that is.

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May 25, 2003

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Best I've seen on my Gnex in the Minneapolis-St Paul area has been ~18/12. They've started to flicker on the LTE goodness in my current hometown about an hour and a half SW of the Twin Cities, so hopefully I'll see that in the next month or two.

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May 25, 2003

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goku chewbacca posted:

If you already own a Verizon smartphone that you want to activate without paying for a data plan, you can do so on the no contract MNVO carrier Page-Plus.

Anybody done this? I have an Incredible that I don't use anymore, and a GVoice number that I use for a side business. I don't do a whole lot of phone calling, mostly texting via the Voice app and emailing, and the phone basically sits on my desk at home most of the time. Paying $10/100 minutes every 120 days or when I run out seems like a better deal than trying to sort out business calls from personal on my regular phone.

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May 25, 2003

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goku chewbacca posted:

Keep in mind that texting via the GVoice app needs a data connection. Texts sent through the Android Messaging app will use your carrier phone number, unless your contact texts you. Then, you'll have a unique short code to respond to.

I understand that, don't worry. It'll be on my home wifi, or tethered to my personal phone. My Voice texts go to all my other devices as well, I'd just prefer a second device for voice calls.

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May 25, 2003

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Does anyone have any experience with a signal amplifier/antenna setup for VZW, like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Wilson-801865-Adjustable-Wireless-Amplifier/dp/B005OD0FZ8/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_2

My family has a home where the cell reception is terrible indoors, and I'm pretty sure it's a combination of steel siding and being in a bowl down by a lake, as well as being a long way from a tower. We can normally get half-decent 3G indoors, but spotty 4G service outside, with good 4G service about 2-3 miles down the road. They use a 3G smartphone for internet service here on the weekends, unless I'm here as well, then we use my 4G smartphone hotspot. we're not sure if something like this would be worth it for the 1/3 of the year they spend weekends here, but I thought I'd research it a bit more. I know the one I linked is 4G only, but it seems like I can pick between 3G boosting and 4G boosting.

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May 25, 2003

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Mighty Horse posted:

I have never used this one in particular, but wilson stuff in general is very good. They actually build in protections to prevent causing problems with the local signal.

Keep in mind, that no voice goes over 4G, so if you are only boosting 4G thats not going to help with any voice calls.

I'm aware, and they do sell a combo 3G/4G unit as well, though that requires separate uplink antennas but uses a single downlink panel. I have to spend some time roaming around and checking signal strengths, plus decide if it's worth the money. Nearest tower seems to be about 2-3 miles down the road according to the map, but the house is down on a lakeshore, tower is about 50-100' higher in elevation, and there's no LoS to it due to hills. Plus the aforementioned steel siding isn't helping matters. Thanks for the info!

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May 25, 2003

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Is there a way to check and see if a phone is off-contract? I'm considering grabbing a RAZR Maxx used to replace my Gnex, but I don't want to lose unlimited with the new account audits.

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May 25, 2003

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Is an old Razr Maxx worth buying at this point? My GNex just met an unfortunate concrete floor, and I'm trying to decide between a Droid Maxx and a Razr Maxx for half the price. I honestly don't do much on the phone, except wifi tether with my laptop/tablet on occasion. Battery life and signal quality are probably my two biggest complaints with the GNex. I'll probably replace it again when VoLTE finally rolls out, I just don't want to spend a lot right this moment :(

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May 25, 2003

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$73 for a Razr Maxx, $110 for a Razr HD, and $165 for a Maxx HD. I'm really needing to replace it ASAP, as I have no backup phone at the moment. I'd splurge on the Maxx HD, since it seems to be a step up from my GNex from a hardware standpoint, and giving me a larger (non-replaceable) battery. Was the LTE reception on the HD/HD Maxx better than the original Razr Maxx? That's really my biggest complaint with the Gnex, as well as the crappy battery life. I don't mind the speed of it, I just hate carrying a charger/battery pack everywhere.

Edit: What's the current hot Verizon phone, anyway? I honestly haven't been following phone releases, since I haven't had a reason to. Grandfathered unlimited means no more subsidized upgrades.

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GWBBQ posted:

The MAXX HD will give you better signal and battery life, and the screen is much better.

Just to not abandon the topic, but this is what I ended up doing. Zero regrets. So far the signal holding and acquisition on the Maxx HD is a million times better than the Gnex. I've only swapped SIMs and let my Google account do its magic on the phone so far, still need to restore some app data. But tomorrow we'll see how the battery life compares.

Also, the VZW image on this phone drives me nuts. Luckily it looks like I can root/unlock and flash it to something better, but that's for a different thread.

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May 25, 2003

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I'm just happy they aren't billing VoLTE calling itself as minutes AND data. That would be the underhanded move to end all.

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$45/month x 24 months is almost $1100. He could afford to buy a brand new phone every 2 years, and replace it once with a used one after a year with those savings.

Edit: FWIW, I've been with Verizon for 14 years, never had device insurance, and only broken one phone that was still in contract (Galaxy Nexus, and good riddance to that POS). I feel like device insurance is overrated, since I replaced the phone for around $175 for a used Razr Maxx HD. Fair point on the Verizon warranty, though.

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May 25, 2003

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I thought about it, and just said screw it. My 6-month average has only been around 2GB, and the 6GB/single phone combo works out to be less than I've currently been paying already. I'll just hop on the 3GB/single phone plan now, and bump to 6GB if I start running into issues using too much data.

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May 25, 2003

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I'm pretty thrilled with my Turbo 2, coming off an older Maxx HD. Battery life is basically not a concern, I can get easily 4-5 hours of screen on time, or 8-10 hours of streaming music over wifi/Bluetooth with a couple hours of screen time.

I considered the Moto X Pure, but decided to do device payment on my plan rather than pay up front. I'm not planning to leave VZW anytime in the near future, and will probably add my wife on a newer iPhone when she decides to upgrade her current (Sprint) iPhone 5c.

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May 25, 2003

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Being on vacation with my family of eight, and being the only one with data service at our lodging, has definitely made me miss my unlimited plan. Even with just basic web use in the evenings, we blew through 17GB of data since last Saturday. I upped my normal 3GB plan to 20GB for the month, and I'm wishing the jump from 20 -> 25GB wasn't so steep. At least they're all chipping in for my extra plan cost this month!

My folks are also Verizon, but in a More Everything plan on contract, so their charges are already a little ridiculous for two smartphones on a 2GB share pool. My data ended up being cheaper, so I bit the bullet. Plus my phone seems to handle having 7 other devices tethered better than their Droid Minis

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May 25, 2003

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I'm sticking with M, unless my 20% discount will apply to the S plan now. I average about a gig a month if I'm not traveling, since I'm usually on wifi at home or work. I don't recall what the cutoff is. On the plus side, 4GB would probably be fine for both my wife and I when we move her to my plan in Aug/Sept.

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May 25, 2003

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Just switched from the old 3GB plan to the new 2GB, and my employer discount did apply to the $35 plan. Knocked around $10 off my monthly bill, and that'll probably be good enough until my wife's Sprint contract is done and we get her a new phone on my plan. Rollover data might be handy, I skipped the $5 data overage add-on. I always just bump my plan on the fly if I'm going over, so I'm not worried about it.

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Duckman2008 posted:

Example: everyone pays in advance. So if you plan is $100, you already paid $100 last month for this current cycle. If you decide you want more data for this cycle you backdate it. So if you go to the $110 plan, next month you will see the normal $110 plan that you switched to for the month in advance, plus the difference of the plan for the month you paid for, in this case $110 charged, $100 credited, so it's $10 higher. If you went to a $90 plan, it would be $10 lower.

If you do this because of a one-month overage, you can backdate the higher plan, then go back a day or two later and future date a change back to your normal plan. You'll only get billed for the actual single-month "upgrade" this way. That's how I handled my switch in May for a weeklong trip.

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May 25, 2003

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$20 upgrade fee was waived for online orders (at least it was on Tues) and our salesperson in the store took it off after checking. I think the promo was still showing up in my Verizon app this morning when I looked.

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May 25, 2003

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Verizon does annual upgrades on the iPhone, so my understanding would be that you trade in the iPhone 5 towards the 7, and when the 8 comes out, you give them your 7 in exchange for the 8, and basically swap the device payment from the 7 to the 8. I don't see why the trade-in credit from the 5 would go away, but you should probably call CS and ask if that's your plan.

My wife just upgraded to a 6s a few days ago, and our sales guy said if she wanted to upgrade to an 8 when they launch next year, they would take her current phone, give her the 8, and she'd continue from then paying the monthly payment of an 8 instead of the 6s.

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May 25, 2003

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Carryover carries over into your next billing cycle, then expires. You'll also use your primary allotment first, then your carryover. So if you have 8GB, and use 7GB in Oct, you'd end up with 9GB available for November. If you only use 7GB in November, the October carryover expires, and you carry over the unused primary allotment to December, so you'd have 9GB available for use in December.

Haven't hit Safety Mode since it became available, but I'm sticking with our 4GB plan this month, so we may hit it by the end. Normally I flip between 4/8/12GB, depending how much we end up using during a given month. Safety Mode means no more hawk-like watching, since they won't murder me with a $15 charge for going slightly over. I can't see Pop Data being THAT much of a draw, unless I had to download something huge faster than I could over available wifi.

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May 25, 2003

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I guess that depends what you're currently paying. With my 20% employer discount, it looks like 24GB is $88 plus $20 line access per device and any applicable device payment plans. So assuming paid off devices, you'd be at around $130ish for two lines sharing 24GB. Isn't Unlimited around $50/line, plus your voice plan? It's been a year or so since I dropped it, it just wasn't worth hanging onto with my normal usage.

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May 25, 2003

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Yeah, with no discount applied this plan doesn't really make sense for me to switch to. I wonder why they're not applying corp discounts to this plan other than "We're Verizon, gently caress you give us money"?

Edit: So wait. When I look at plan charges in the app, my L plan is $70, or $56 after discount. The Unlimited shows $110, but is that including my two line access charges? It also says $10 off with autopay, which we're already on. This feels like they rushed it out without much in the way of details in the marketing materials.

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May 25, 2003

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Did anybody else get an updated corporate discount notice from VZW about a week ago? As far as I could tell, it didn't change anything important relating to my discount terms (still applies to base plan and not access charges, minimum $35 to apply to a plan, 20% plan discount, etc) but it added a 3% discount for My Verizon registration and paperless billing. Doesn't kick in until 6/6/17, so I guess I'll find out then if it actually affects my current plan beyond that or not.

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