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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
A poster at PatsFans.com making a couple mellow predictions for the upcoming season.

quote:

I'm predicting 2 things to transpire in the next 3 years:

1 ~ The Patriots are about to become the first team ever to win 3 consecutive Super Bowls.

2 ~ The Patriots will soon become the first team ever to go 19-0.

gently caress yeah

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
That guy is seriously one of my favorite posters on the entire internet. His mock draft from April is nothing less than looking straight into the abyss of madness.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/749559-off-grid-presents-worst-mock-ever.html

quote:

Draft Summary

1st Round

#13 ~ DE ~ Justin Watt

2nd Round

#49 ~ OG ~ Ben Ijalana
#60 ~ DE ~ Kenrick Ellis
#64 ~ RB ~ Shane Vereen

3rd Round

#80 ~ TB ~ Taiwan Jones
#90 ~ WE ~ Lance Kenrick
#96 ~ WB ~ Jordan Cameron

4th Round

#100 ~ QB ~ Ricky Stanzi
#104 ~ CB ~ Curtis Marsh
#108 ~ RB ~ DeAndre McDaniel
#120 ~ DF ~ Greg Romeus
#121 ~ PB ~ Jamie Harper
#123 ~ QB ~ Greg McElroy
#125 ~ CB ~ DeMarcus Van Dyke
#129 ~ CB ~ Ryan Jones

5th Round

#133 ~ OG ~ Jason Pinkston
#154 ~ OT ~ Willie Smith
#159 ~ OT ~ David Mims

6th Round

#169 ~ RB ~ Graig Cooper
#193 ~ TE ~ Will Yeatman

7th Round

#204 ~ WB ~ Brett Brackettt
#225 ~ PB ~ Mario Fannin
#231 ~ UT ~ Colby WhitLock

Free Agents

DF ~ Craig Marshall
DF ~ Christian Anthony
DF ~ Marc Schiechl
DT ~ Blaine Sumner

Veteran Free Agent

DF ~ Mathias Kiwanuka

:stare:

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Tempest_56 posted:

Wait, so.. he expected the Pats to turn 9 draft picks into 23 picks, along the way selecting (by my count) seven running backs of various flavors. The hell.

It's simple really!

quote:

Trade Summary

#17 + #74 ~ Lions ~ #13 + #154.

#28 ~ Beefaloes ~ #34 + #100 + #133 + #169.

#33 ~ Miners ~ #45 + #76 + #108 + #231.

#34 ~ Jaguars ~ #49 + #80 + #121.

#45 ~ Packers ~ #64 + #96 + #129 + #204.

#76 ~ Ravens ~ #90 + #123 + #225.

#92 ~ Eagles ~ #104 + #120.

:downs:

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I uh...I think I found the worst thread on any football fan forum. For reference it is about child star Selena Gomez...

http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230010

quote:

She will. She's only 18. I kinda feel like taking it up the brownhole the first time is something chicks do in the 22-23 range and then decide whether or not they like it. And if they don't, there's always chloroform.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Ozu posted:

The funniest part about JetsInsider is that 2 of the top 3 posters by volume are Pats trolls. That's a lot of dedication right there.
code:
1. PatsFanTX		47,913
2. Green Jets & Ham	41,856
3. FF2®			40,267

Holy Christ are those post counts? Only FYAD superstars have numbers like that.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

MorningView posted:

Quarterbacks aren't the best. It's a team effort!

-Dick Vermeil

I want to see that collage now.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Some patsfans have some interesting opinions about Manning potentially being out for the season.

quote:

Can you imagine a more perfect succession plan created and conspired to by Manning and Polian. Manning provides a "hometown" discount and gets a year off to rehab. Indy tanks and gets rewarded with andrew Luck who will provide two decades of glory post_Manning. Plot worthy of a Hollywood movie. And if the movie gets made guess who gets screen writers and creative credits: Manning and Polian.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
The 3rd manning brother must feel like such an outcast at the family gatherings.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Looks like some people at Patsfans are already predicting for the Pats to go 2-6 through the first half stretch.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Posted right before the final drive.

quote:

Tom no longer performs consistently well in tight games.He has not been the same in that respect since his injuiry.

quote:

This is the same team from last year. Say what you will but the problems are definite: Brady has become a front runner. He plays good with a lead but craps himself on any clutch situation now.

quote:

I miss the clutch, less statistically flashy Brady. I liked that Brady more than this version.

quote:

Brady choked, I'm shocked

Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Oct 17, 2011

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Welp, we have reached peak stupidity.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/874161-would-you-want-brian-schottenheimer-if-he-available.html

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
People at patsfans.com are completely losing their poo poo over the Trayvon Wilson pick. Apparently the 1st round never happened and Belichick has no idea what he's doing with his draft picks. :rolleyes:

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I don't think a 7th round pick can ever really be considered a "waste."

And the DE in the 3rd round seems like a solid situational pass rusher.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Considering that the majority of 2nd round picks that were deemed "steals" made during Belichick tenure completely bombed (Butler, Wheatley, Jackson, etc) I'm not too down about it. If it doesn't work out, oh well that's the norm.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I can't tell which type of patsfans.com posts make me :rolleyes: more; the super exaggerated optimism where it's inevitable that we win the next 3 Super Bowls or the absolute depressing pessimism that can never be pleased.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Look at this mock draft. Just look at it

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/829515-ye-official-2012-mock-draft-thread-page111.html#post3022301

That's right, EIGHTEEN PICKS and an additional ten UDFA.

And here's the rational for his strategy.

quote:

2005 ~ Might we'ave beat the Broncos ~ and won it all ~ with 1 more effective O Back?? Super Bowl.

2006 ~ Would we'ave beat the Colts ~ and won it all ~ with an actual Wide Receiver?? Super Bowl.

2007 ~ Would we'ave beat the Giants ~ and won it all ~ with a beastly back up for Neal?? Super Bowl.

2008 ~ Would we'ave won one more game ~ and made mincemeat of that pathetically weak PlayOffs field ~ if we'd had better Depth of Talent at Flanker or MidFielder?? Super Bowl.

2010 ~ Would we'ave destroyed the Jets ~ and won it all ~ if we'd had better Depth of Talent at O Back, Split End, O Guard, or Corner?? Super Bowl.

2011 ~ Would we'ave beat the Giants ~ and won it all ~ with a substantial back up for Gronk?? Super Bowl.

That's 6 Super Bowls we might've won, out'f the last 7...if we had more substantial, impactfull Depth of Talent...And yet so many still bleat that they couldn't imagine where we could possibly improve this roster of Ryan Wendells, Bobby Carpenters, Steven Gregorys, and Sergio Browns!!

Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 15:59 on May 5, 2012

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
The Manningham play didn't really matter in the end. I have no doubt in my mind that Eli would have just driven down the field to kick the game winning field goal as time expired anyway.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

quote:

I love Wes Welker as a player, but he is not an elite wide receiver. I never look at him and think he can take it to the house on any play, especially when far away from the endzone. Elite wide receivers should be able to generate that threat. That is where elite pay comes into play. The real threat of scoring long yardage touchdowns is what elite wide receivers need to bring to the table. Welker has never scored over 9 touchdowns in a season.

With all the receivers in play (especially Lloyd and Gaffney) whop can line up on the perimeter and take it deep being paired with the two young tight ends I really think the Patriots would not miss a beat and be even harder to defend without him.

Where this all gets tricky is that I believe people are mixing a great emotional story with reality. Welker is the quintessential little engine that could. He is the good soldier. He is the Hollywood story of the hero who did everything right and wins in the end. This is not hollywood.

There was a fullback in the 90's named Larry Centers who had production close to a wide receiver. Wes reminds me more of him than a Randy Moss or Calvin Johnson.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
It's not football but it's too good to pass up.

quote:

Hey guys, first let me tell all of you that I am most definitely not a religous fanatic or some Bible thumping phony. I am a flawed indiviidual and a sinner. I most definitely am. I am a strong believer in the Lord, however, and would be a lot worse without Him and that is important for what I'm going to say......I REALLY THINK THAT GOD IS PUNISHING THE RED SOX SEVERELY FOR THEIR PLOFIGATE AND ARROGANT WAYS WHEN THEY WERE ON TOP OF THE BASEBBALL WORLD. They did stupid things with personnel, kept favorite and sacred cows and traded away prospects that might have been helpful down the road. Epstein acted like he was Alexander the Great, Lucchino like Stalin and Henry as if he were an Emperor. In the meantime our team became a hated ball club by others, whether it was because of jealousy or because of what they perceived as our arrogance and self-importance.

No team in baseball has suffered the amount of critical injuries as we have....no team!!!!! There has to e some reason for it whether it is bad karma, the wrath of the gods, bad luck or a combination of different things. To regain any semblance of respectability in the eyes of nature and nature's God there is going to have to be a self cleansing of some kind so that whoever determines these things starts smiling on our team because right now we see to get nothing but angry looks and snears. Yes, this sounds off the wall, and it also does to me, but can anyone give a better take on w hy we suffer mishaps so much more than o ther teams?

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
He's just covering all his bases.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

quote:

You are all the most unbelievably annoying group of posters that have ever been on this site at the same time. I am supposed to reign in my natural desire to berate people, being a mod and all, but gently caress this. I seriously, 100% am beginning to hate all of you. Hooray, you're right, the Sox are losing! You have no right, no right to tell jacko to leave and stop gloating, because that's all you do. I have not heard you (pumpsie), say a single positive thing about anything in weeks. You are single-handedly making me want to quit this site. SHUT. UP. Stop posting if everything you post is going to be about how this player sucks or how the Sox are sure to lose even when they're winning. I have absolutely zero reason to live outside of watching the Red Sox every day and trying to ignore the fact that my life sucks. I am a week away from living in a loving homeless shelter and the one place I can come to ignore the real world is becoming as bad as my life, and it's all thanks to you. Either quit proclaiming how right you are about everything being terrible every time the opposing team scores a run or get the gently caress out of here. I'm sick of you and everyone like you and I swear to you if you keep turning this place into your own little doomsday cult website the last thing I will do before I finally kill myself is ban you and delete every post you have ever made.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
From the guy who brought you the 30 pick mock draft comes another glimpse into the mind of an untreated schizophrenic.

quote:

I believe so.

*Editor's Note: As Always, the following Bits ~ or at least the intelligent parts!! ~ owe a Great Deal to the Author's extensive discussions with Brother MayoClinic, Fellow FootBall Fanatic!!

The "245" Amorphous D ~ The Next Great Defense!!

Amorphous D ~ Birth of A Bull Market of Deception!!


First ~ A bit of FootBall History, Ladies + Laddies:

It was in 1880 ~ 132 long and lustrous years ago ~ that the number of Players on the Field was reduced from 15...to 11.

And so the merciless + unrelenting Persecution of Defenses...began!!

"It Starts."




1880's dramatic Rule Change effected a substantial impact on the Game ~ in favor of the Offense, of course, as all such reductions in Personnel do ~ and consequently demanded not only that the remaining 11 Defenders become far Quicker and Craftier than before...but also that their Alignments become more Flexible, Unpredictable...and Deceptive.

And it established a Trend that has persisted to this very day.

For 132 years, the vast majority of the Paying Public ~ as well as the Innovators who crafted the Games's Evolution before there was a Paying Public ~ have displayed a relentless, ever-increasing appetite for Offense ~ along with a shamefully minimal appreciation for Defense!! ~ as a result of which the Trend of Change in the Game's Rules and Regulations, almost since the Game's very inception, has carved out a 132 Year Offensive Bull Market.

And there's no end in sight.

Time for a gratuitously + unnecessarily confusing + complicated Chart:

Points Per Game Since 1880:





The sad part is that I actually think I'm being funny.

So, yes: Virtually since The Dawn of FootBall, Defenses have adapted to this Relentless Persecution by becoming increasingly Quicker, Faster, Smaller, and Smarter...And Defensive Coordinators have indeed been compelled to forge Systems and Schemes that have become increasingly Flexible....and increasingly Unpredictable and Deceptive.

And as any Student of Warfare ~ or Football ~ will tell you: The more Flexible, Unpredictable, and Deceptive that you wish to be...the fewer Soldiers you should commit to The Front Line BEFORE the Inception of Battle.

Coach Amos Stagg ~ Revolutionary FREAK!!




In 1890, The GodFather of all FootBall Revolutionaries ~ Coach Amos Stagg of the SpringField Young Men's Christian Association Training Center, which eventually became SpringField College ~ tore up the Competitive LandScape ~ one of about 8 million times he would do so ~ by trumping the classic "92" Defensive Formation with the introduction of the "722" ~ And in his spare time he played in the very first BasketBall game in History!!

This Relentless Persecution of Defenses would compel numerous Evolutions in Strategy and Scheme in the decades to come, as described eloquently yet understandably by Jene Bremel of the New York Times:

* In the late 1940's, Coach Greasy Neale of the Philadelphia Eagles forged a Dynasty with a dominant "524".

* But on Opening Day 1950, the 2 Time Defending World Champion Eagles were shredded by the phenomenal Tactics of Coach Paul Brown's CleveLand Browns...and the rest of the NFL scrambled, in more or less sheer panic, to try to find some way to combat this new and Revolutionary CleveLand Offense. The result: The "43".

* In the 1970's, we saw the rise of the "34". It receded in the 1980's, but is now rapidly taking over the Game.

Time for another gratuitously complex + complicated Chart to illustrate the Point:

Number of Base Defensive Down Linemen Since 1880:




Yes, but at least I'm amusing myself.

So I've got that going for me.

Which is nice.



1880 ~ 11 Men on the Line of Scrimmage in Base Defense.

2011 ~ 3 or 4.

You, um...get the picture.

What Does The Future Hold?


The Running Game hasn't been outlawed ~ yet ~ so it might be a bit premature, at this point, to field 11 CornerBacks.

But we're seeing the first signs, ere the last few years, of even Smaller, more Flexible, and less Decipherable Defenses gaining Market Share with some of the bolder, more creative Defensive Coordinators and Head Coaches:

* New EngLand Patriots ~ the 155!!

* PittsBurgh Steelers ~ the 245 + 155!!

* GreenBay Packers ~ Nickel + Psycho Packages!!

* Seattle SeaHawks ~ the Amoeba Defense!!

Mind you: all of these are instances of the "155" and the "245" being employed as Sub Packages.

Nobody's talking about installing the "155" or the "245" as a Base Package.

Well, except for me.

Amorphous D ~ Birth of A Bull Market of Deception!!




"ALL War is based on Deception." ~ Sun Tzu


Indeed, the concept of Sub Packages, itself, is undergoing a Revolution: The changes in the Rules ~ and the implementation of the Rules ~ have been so severely detrimental to Defenses since 2003 that ~ just in order to survive without getting "40 Burgers" dropped on them every single week ~ DC's've been compelled not only to adapt with increasingly indecipherable Defenses that keep their options open ~ hence the recent rapid resurgence of the 34!! ~ but have indeed needed ~ for sheer survival's sake ~ to seek out and try to field personnel who can morph between multiple formations, in order to Multiply the Indecipherability of their Strategy + Schemes!!

Relentless Persecution, Part 12: The "No Huddle" O!!




Just when you might think that Defenses are starting to recover from the combined onslaught of Pansy Polian's Punishment of Physical FootBall and Gutless Goodell's Flag FootBall Foolishness and Flatulent Phuckery...

The Greatest, Most Merciless Evil in The History of Defensive FootBall...Strikes.

I refer, of course to:

Tom Brady ~ Scourge of Gods!!




As if Defenses didn't already have enough disastrous changes to deal with ~ what with the multitudinous Evils wrought by The Conspiracy to Maddenize FootBall ~ along comes Tom Brady, who makes note that Defensive Schemes are rapidly becoming more fragmented ~ in other words: Sub Packages are exploding, as DC's desperately rotate more and more Specialists in and out ~ Run D Specialists, Pass D Specialists, Nickel Packages, Dime Packages ~ in a frantic effort to stem The Relentless Tide of Maddenization...

So what does General Tom do??

Why, he waits until he's got the best Match Up of Personnel on both sides of the Ball...and then he hits the Gas!!

There's No MERCY in FOOTBall!!




The No Huddle Offense has, of course, been with us for a very long time, historically employed as The 2:00 Drill. And while its application as a Primary Offense ~ in order to exploit Bad Matchups and to exhaust Defenses ~ is much more recent, it still goes back to the Boomer Esiason Cincinnati Bengals of the 1980's.

But the increased Specialization of today's Defensive Personnel ~ "Specialist" being of course a clever euphemism for "Not Good Enough To Be A Starter" ~ offers savvy QuarterBacks an unprecedented multitude of Opportunities to strike Defenses when they're most vulnerable...and to drive them all the way downfield before they can recover!!

Mind you: Not everyone can do what Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers can do.

Not on their Scale.

But as soon as the rest of this famously "CopyCat" League fully embraces the stunning enormity of this gaping hole that the explosive growth of Sub Packages has exposed Defensive Schematics to ~ and I believe that the 2012 season will reveal that, in fact, they already have ~ the FloodGates will truly be thrown wide open.

I'm not joking: I believe that Tom Brady and a few others have already proven ~ via The No Huddle Offense ~ that the entire premise behind the recent explosion of Sub Packages is fundamentally and fatally flawed!!

And therein, I believe, lies the Vacuum.

My GOD...What's a Defense to DO??




We all know that Nature Abhors a Vacuum.

And I have posited that Sub Packages have been exposed...and are about to be shredded on a league-wide basis.

Furthermore, it has been argued that any Base Defense that doesn't have at least three Down Linemen ~ in other words: the "245" or the "155", to say nothing of sending out zero Down Linemen!! ~ can be run on all...day...long.

Ladies and Laddies?

I call "BULLSCHITTE."

Because that, Ladies and Laddies...is what they once said about the 34!!

Well, they were wrong, then, weren't they?




Indeed, I'd bet cold, hard Cash that that's also what they said about the "43", when it replaced the "52" in the 50's!!

And while I wasn't privy to the meetings ~ to the best of my recollection ~ I'll bet that Coach Stagg got hit with a ton of PushBack, back in 1890, when he moved from the "92" to the "722"!! Hah!!

"They're gonna run the ball down our THROATS, Coach!!"

WRONG!!!




Despite the Wailing and Gnashing of Teeth over the years, with every Schematic Change, the facts are crystal clear:

Defenses have evolved from the "92" to the "722" to the "524" to the "43" to the "34" over the last 132 years, as they've scrambled to react to the introduction ~ in 1906 ~ of the Passing Game, and to its explosive expansion.

And they are now forced to pay a tiny fraction of attention to the Running Game that they once did, back in the day.

And yet D's are still able to compete against the Run, to this very day.

"How in the name of God is that even possible??", one might ask.

One word, Ladies and Laddies:

Evolution.

We Improvise...We Adapt...We OVERCOME!!




Evolution


The Game ~ by dint of the dramatic changes in Rules and Implementation over the last 10 years ~ has evolved.

Again.

And there's no sense in DC's kidding themselves.

In order to survive ~ and in order, ultimately, to thrive ~ Defenses must once again evolve with it.

I won't venture a TimeLine, but I believe, yes, that the "43" Base Defense is about to rapidly disappear from the NFL.

And I wouldn't be surprised to see the "34" Base vaporize in the next decade or so, either.

"74" Schemes ~ such as the "34" and the "43" ~ are about to fade away, I believe.

"65" Schemes ~ such as the "155", "245", "335", and "425" ~ are about to explode...as Base Defenses!!

Remember where you read it first, if you'd do me that Honor!!

How To Approach This Insanity?


I'll leave the details to the Experts, of course, but I have a few ideas.

The two most critical Principles, in my view, both of which I've touched on, are these:

1 ~ Embrace "65" Base Schemes and leave "74" Base Schemes behind: D's that hope to compete against the Flying Circuses of the 21st Century had damned well better deploy 5 Defensive Backs. At is simplest, it is far better to have an extra Corner or Safety occasionally attack upfield against the Run...than to ask a MidFielder ~ "Middle LineBacker", Earthlings ~ to be constantly backpedaling downfield, desperately trying to keep up with a guy 30 pounds lighter than'm!!

2 ~ Substitution and Specializing can be fatal: Aggressively seek out Players with the Intelligence, the Athleticism, and the Character to play effectively in the "155", the "245", the "335", and the "425", or at least two of them. I believe that it's the D's that can seamlessly morph between Schemes ~ thus eliminating The No Huddle's greatest advantage ~ and then disruptively implement those Schemes, who will come to dominate the League in the not so distant future.

An Amorphous D that can seamlessly morph between Multiple "65" Fronts IS The Wave of the Future!!

Am I out'f my mind??

Quite Possibly!!

But...then again...

It...Could...WORK!!!


http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/927079-245-amorphous-d-next-great-defense.html

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

quote:

Gronk looks slow and wiffed on numerous of blocks. Maybe he should stay the eff off tv and get get back into football.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

quote:

A spouse has every right to bang the neighbor if they wish. That doesn't mean it is the right thing to do.

A patsfan.com poster on why you should never boo.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

quote:

This post won't last long....but it is what it is....

I don't take kindly to being threatened and really....I am kind of stunned by the venom from Shmessy....Look...not wanting to start anything more....I wasn't out of line....Shmessy got butt hurt....oh well....

I just wish to say that I have had a great time keeping up on our Patriots over the past years....but the copied threat below just crossed a line with me....not even in my most deeply, drunken, stupors...would I send something like I received from Shmessy.....I'm probably violating some "rules" by posting this, but really....who cares....

Heck....maybe I'm butt hurt....but....maybe its just hemmoroids.....bleck....

Go Pats and take care all....from me....

from Shmessy


"Mods....please get off your arses and move this thread to an appropriate forum."
So sorry our performance isn't up to your standards today. We do this on a volunteer basis. I just got home from a meeting.

So let me put this as succinctly as possible: I'm not your *****, ****head.

You address us like that again and you won't be here very long.Merry Christmas.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

quote:

No way the score gets that high. Ball will be wet like a horny 16 yr. old chick. Slippery as a hell and tough to catch. Hopefully we can ground and pound it though it won't be easy against one of the top run defenses.

I predict something like 27-10 Pats

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Chichevache posted:

Hasn't the New England run defense been absurdly good lately?

It started the year as excellent but ironically has reverted back to average as the pass defense has gotten better.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Danica! posted:


That said, Houston is the more complete team and should win.

gently caress that. :colbert:

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

quote:

Hey all, my wife ordered me a Chandler Jones jersey for Xmas from a site called "www.officialnewenglandpatriotsproshop.com" which actually isn't the proshop, that is "http://proshop.patriots.com/" and it was late arriving for Christmas. Now she was starting to get worried that it was a scam, but it eventually did come and when it did, boy was I happy. She had ordered the $90 version, so even though the description said "embroidered" name and number I assumed that that wasn't true and it would have the iron on type lettering. It didn't, it has the sewn on name, numbers pats insignia everything, and it had the "official NFLPA" tags and labels so it isn't actually a knock-off.

I just thought I'd pass that along in case anyone is shopping for a jersey.

Mods if you feel the need to kill this thread I wouldn't be offended.

:shobon:

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Is T'eo white enough for that guy or is he still too ethnic?

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
gently caress the Giants for allowing that to exist

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

quote:

Ok I was reluctant to buy into this but after listening to people tell
me it is true and considering some what I've seen/heard I am wondering.

here's some stuff to consider.

1. NBA is on record that refs take pay offs to influence game out comes
and the ref caught said he is not the only one doing it. Is it a stretch to
think there may be NFL refs doing it also?

2. PATs with an offense scoring 30+ points a game just finished off a team
with a pretty good defense in the playoffs with 40+ points and is held to
13 points by an old D.

3. The ratings for a Harbaugh vs Harbaugh Superbowl were off the scales.
There are billions involved here folks. With that much money at stake it is
possible some people were bought to influence the outcome of the game?

4. Tom Brady. Think about his body language. Did he seem like
he was really playing to win? To me he didn't have that fire in his eyes.
His body language seemed to say " I already know what the outcome will be .. so why try hard .. I'll just do what I'm paid to do"

Consider it all ask yourself ...
does it make sense that this offense is held to 13 points with NO points in the second half?

It almost seems like the no 2nd half points was
a rebellion to the game being fixed .... the only way that they could
say it was fixed without saying it verbally.

Thoughts?

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/1002745-nfl-conspiracy-theory.html

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

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Febreeze posted:

Pats fans have gotten so delusional



We didn't make the superbowl guys, cut everything

Please don't refer to the staff at the Boston Globe or Herald as "Pats fans." Because they aren't. The Globe only cares about the Red Sox and Boston College Eagles. And for some reason has an unholy grudge against UMASS but thats neither here or there.

Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jan 27, 2013

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

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One easy way to solve all this...petition Goodell to sit on live TV, like NFLN , and take a polygraph administered by any number of former FBI agents. Let's have the question asked in front of the whole country. Give him immunity, if that placates all the violently intense NFL lovers who insist the NFL is the only entity in the entire United States of America that is impervious to such corruption.

Is the NFL in collusion with other corporate entities to predetermine matchups and outcomes of NFL postseason games and especially the Super Bowl?

Yes or no.....one simple question asked directly on live TV...if he answers truthfully, while having immunity" we will finally have our answer.

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Not that Goodell would ever tell the truth, even to an FBI agent.

That being said, I firmly believe that the TV networks have far more influence than people believe. Ratings are directly related to billions of dollars in revenue, and I think there is collusion between the league and the networks to do whatever they can to pump up ratings.

When these executives meet on the golf course, do you really think that all they talk about is the weather ?

There are many examples, like a TV timeout that stalls a drive, schedule changes at the end of the season, tailored to pump up prime time ratings, the whole replay system that's reliant on network camera angles, referee teams that vary wildly in how they call a game from week to week, and on and on.

I don't think it was any coincidence that a "let 'em play" group of officials was assigned to a Superbowl between two of the most penalized teams in football.

Those guys pretty much guaranteed that the Lewis saga had a fairtytale ending.

I've come to view the NFL like reality TV. Fun to watch, with a lot of manufactured drama and surprise endings to capture the viewers.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

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AAA DOLFAN posted:

What a miserable life that guy must lead

I should ask him what his thoughts are on fluoride.

Also those are two different guys.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

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And now the power of the internet allows everyone to experience the crazies!

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

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Reminds me that Dante Stallworth went on a crazed anti-vaccination rant on twitter a couple months back. And how many pro athletes sponsor that power bracelet that balances your chi or some poo poo? Athletes are dumb.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

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Yep. Muslims should most def. stay in the Middle East. Sweden is now the rape capital of the world because of this religion. They hate the European race especially.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

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Throughout TC and the preseason I am seeing a team that is too much about finesse and too little about physically imposing their will on an opponent.

When we play against other finesse teams, we will win our fair share of games.

However when we line up against brutes, the Ravens, the Bengals,the 49ers, the Lions etc. we are going to get destroyed. BB has collected a lot of pretty panties for the locker room and that is not good.

BB where is the physicality? Where is the attitude? Where is the nastiness?

This team is fast becoming a punching bag for the physical NFL teams to be beat us like dogs.

Our defense sucks toilet water. They spend more time thinking about assignments than flowing to the ball. Our pass rushers are pathetic and I think I heard Chandler Jones apologize to a Lions O-Lineman for knocking him over.

Our offense is a toothless precision offense, with only Mankins and Gronkowski put a whipping on their opponents. And Gronkowski is out! Ouch!

Why do we have 80 guys on the injury list every week, because we take more hits than we give! This is a weak group BB.

BB please, we need to re-steal the S&C coach back from Dallas or go get the college guy from Alabama. Our current crew of panty-waists players are looking weak!

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

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Straight from Patsfans

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I'm sure that there's going to be a lot of really bad posts made in this thread, so I'm just going to take a post from the game thread, modify it and add a bit at the end, and them I'm outta here so the two extreme sides can lob grenades at each other:

The Patriots defense is missing both of its NFL starting-level DTs. It's missing it's best LB, who happens to be the only LB capable of covering against the pass. It's missing its CB1, which leads to the CB3 and S2 being exposed.

The Patriots offense is missing it's best WR. It's dealing with a TE who's playing his first game of the year. It's missing it's only RB receiving weapon. It's got a pair of rookie WRs who are inconsistent, at best, and who struggle mightily against man coverage. It's got a center who is not starting quality going against an excellent pair of DTs. It's got a LT who's been struggling for much of this young season.

All this, and the team is coming off a last-second win in an emotional game, against an excellent opponent.

With that in mind, why were people posting as if they were shocked that this game was a struggle and ended in a loss?

hmm,actually pretty reasonable really. Wait, there's more to this post...

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Now, having done that, I'll just make one quick rant:

It took an offseason of incredible incompetence on the part of the "GM" to get this team to the point where the greatest offensive lineups in history have turned into this steaming turd.

Congrats Bill! You've taken the best team in the league and turned it into a mediocrity, in just one season. I sure as hell hope your changes improve by the factor of about 1000 that they'll need to in order to get this team just back to where it should have been.

Well that took an unexpected turn.

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