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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
"Why do you have to zip up your pants every time you get out of that X-wing, Luke," Chewy said. I nearly fell off the X-wing, aghast. "You got a pussy in that thing?" I coughed and gulped. "Hahahaha, nice one, Chewy," I said

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Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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Improbable Lobster posted:

"Why do you have to zip up your pants every time you get out of that X-wing, Luke," Chewy said. I nearly fell off the X-wing, aghast. "You got a pussy in that thing?" I coughed and gulped. "Hahahaha, nice one, Chewy," I said

lol

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



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painted bird posted:

idk C3PO can clearly pass the turing test. dunno about R2D2, though

also this is a pet peeve and needlessly pedantic but you mean sapient.

yeah you're right, it's 5am and i'm :justpost:ing incoherently.

painted bird
Oct 18, 2013

by Lowtax
why the heck are you awake.

granted it's 1 AM here but i have an excuse

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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wait you're not fishmech

i was freaking out a little there when you qualified your opinions

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
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Lipstick Apathy
insomnia is a hell of a drug

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Amethyst posted:

wait you're not fishmech

i was freaking out a little there when you qualified your opinions

the really weird thing is fishmech is posting again with the original account

so confusing

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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people were mistaking me for blue stymie in another thread, lol

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
big trouble in little yospos

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
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C3PO is obviously male, but I have never thought of R2D2 as having a gender at all. The closest analogy for me has always been a little beeping, whistling Lassie.

Amethyst
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at the date posted:

C3PO is obviously male, but I have never thought of R2D2 as having a gender at all. The closest analogy for me has always been a little beeping, whistling Lassie.

lassie is a girl

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
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Amethyst posted:

lassie is a girl

I'm aware but like I said, closest analogy. The dog's interactions with other characters, role in the plot, and basic personality would be identical no matter its sex, and I never thought of Lassie as a "girl" or "boy," just a kickass dog that's smarter than everyone else and gets them out of bad situations.

Amethyst
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at the date posted:

I'm aware but like I said, closest analogy. The dog's interactions with other characters, role in the plot, and basic personality would be identical no matter its sex.

i don't think 3po would have struck r2 in the head, for the audience to laugh at, if r2 was gendered female

painted bird
Oct 18, 2013

by Lowtax
not in the 70s, at least. 50s and earlier is more likely.

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
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Amethyst posted:

i don't think 3po would have struck r2 in the head, for the audience to laugh at, if r2 was gendered female

My point is that R2 isn't "gendered" male either. Stop trying to make soda cans on wheels conform to your binary gender paradigm, bigot.

Amethyst
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3po: I don't think he likes you
R2: Beep beepy beep beep?
3po: No, I don't like you either.
R2: (sad beep)

This scene is culturally coded as funny. Part of the fabric of that encoding is the implied male gender of R2.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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the scene rules lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_030i5C7xA4

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
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That doesn't come across to me at all. That scene in particular makes R2D2 seem more like a chastised family pet than a man or woman.

Amethyst
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at the date posted:

That doesn't come across to me at all. That scene in particular makes R2D2 seem more like a chastised family pet than a man or woman.

he's comes across as a young boy, to me

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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also, i don't know anyone who refers to r2 as "it". it's always "he"

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
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Amethyst posted:

he's comes across as a young boy, to me

your cultural context is clearly more sexist than mine :colbert:

^^^

I don't refer to pets as "it" either unless I'm in a conversation, like this one, where using a gendered pronoun would be confusing.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Amethyst posted:

also, i don't know anyone who refers to r2 as "it". it's always "he"

right. including the two robots themselves.

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

Amethyst posted:

i don't think 3po would have struck r2 in the head, for the audience to laugh at, if r2 was gendered female
but you're presuming 3po is male

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
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JawnV6 posted:

but you're presuming 3po is male

shut up

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

JawnV6 posted:

but you're presuming 3po is male

the droids are refered to as 'he' multiple times

infact i can't recall any droids being called 'she' in any of the movies.

painted bird
Oct 18, 2013

by Lowtax
what planet is at the date from where family pets can engage in meaningful discussion about anything. R2D2 is way above a dog's level of intelligence.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Oh cool someone is posting about retarded poo poo nobody cares about outside of the internet in the scifi thread again sweet

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

it's a fun loophole in the presumed argument that's easily countered by several examples already brought up, knowingly emitted in bad faith in a way i'm fairly certain didn't punch down (as alternate phrasings did)

why the gently caress are you around again? why do you hate fun?

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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Larry Parrish posted:

Oh cool someone is posting about retarded poo poo nobody cares about outside of the internet in the scifi thread again sweet

it's a sci fi concept discussion. no different from when we go into the mechanics of time travel. deal with it

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
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I guess we're at the point in the discussion where painted bird starts referring to me in the third person to mock me. I give it a page before he brings up the fact that he's a gay depressed retard to try to win an argument about Star Wars.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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painted bird posted:

what planet is at the date from where family pets can engage in meaningful discussion about anything. R2D2 is way above a dog's level of intelligence.

eh, i see what he means. some times gender is assigned purely for linguistic convenience

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
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oh wait he did that last page

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

Amethyst posted:

some times gender is assigned purely for linguistic convenience

player of games had a chapter on it

painted bird
Oct 18, 2013

by Lowtax
that's because iain m. banks was a good writer, unlike lucas

Amethyst
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star wars isn't the kind of movie that questions these things, it's just part of the cultural axioms behind it. I don't think the gendered robots are bad writing.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
if they had done the prequels entirely in the droid beepboop language it would probably have been more enjoyable

painted bird
Oct 18, 2013

by Lowtax
nah, not at all, but IMO it could've easily gone real south if the robots were more than the comedy relief cum plot helpers

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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fishmech posted:

if they had done the prequels entirely in the droid beepboop language it would probably have been more enjoyable

the sound engineering behind r2's beeps is incredible

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Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



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fishmech posted:

if they had done the prequels entirely in the droid beepboop language it would probably have been more enjoyable

oh god

:fishmech:

in the flesh

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