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Heck: "Do you want a loud distraction or a hot distraction?" Scarlet: "What's the difference?" Heck: "Hot distractions have more fire!"
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They don't really need to make a direct sequel to AP. I would be perfectly happy with Deus Vault the game. An AP style game set in the Cold War era. I would buy it.
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Jul 4, 2011 23:39
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A suggestion if you have some spare time, make sure to read your intel emails. They will tell you more specifically what you get for buying them. Some of them are also pretty amusing. For one mission, I hired a private military contractor to run a patrol near where I was operating. If you read the email, Mike sends them 10% as a down payment and tells them to get the rest of the money they need to contact sdarcy@halbech.com 
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Jul 5, 2011 01:46
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Is there some place that has a complete list of the perks you can earn and how to earn them? I've played through the game a bunch, but I'm sure there are a few perks I didn't find.
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Jul 6, 2011 04:43
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Lynx posted:He was referring to SIE but you're right, there's actually two bosses you can't melee. They give you a sniper rifle to use in that non-optional boss fight. So, you're not really screwed if you're all melee in that one. Whereas during the optional boss fight, you have to use your own guns.
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Jul 7, 2011 04:58
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Another this loving game moment during the Moscow Embassy mission I head slammed Grigori when I met him earlier cause I'm playing rear end in a top hat Thorton. I knew ahead of time this would make them post marines at the embassy. I thought it was supposed to make it tougher to bluff your way past them too. However, I showed up decked out in combat armor during this run and carrying an assault rifle. Instead of having to bluff them, the guards mistook me for the extra security they had requested and let me inside easily.
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Jul 8, 2011 04:46
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Moscow Embassy stuffI would like to believe that the marines requested assistance from the Russians and mistook Thorton for one. In addition to the armor, I had Thorton wearing a Ushanka and sporting a full lumberjack beard. Though I doubt that had anything to do with the success of the ruse 
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Jul 8, 2011 05:30
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One Sick Puppy posted:Edit: is there any way to turn Parker to your side in the end and NOT have him die? I like Parker and seeing him stabbed in the neck kind of sucks It is possible. To do it, I believe you can't tell Marburg about Parker's past. Also, don't tell Parker about Marburg nearly killing or actually killing his daughter depending on how Rome played out for you. You also need Parker to like you somewhat and contact him at the end of the game. Make sure you use logic during that conversation to explain how his plan is flawed
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Jul 8, 2011 14:53
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Jose posted:Man, I'm at the end of Rome and trying to fight Marburg as stealth/martial arts is ridiculous. I'm just getting destroyed every single time. Doesn't anyone have advice? The fact he blocks constantly at the end of a combo and it only does a tiny bit of damage once his armour is off is making it near impossible to do proper damage to him You are using fury when you attack him right? You could also try chucking grenades and setting some traps. Soften him up with a grenade or a few shots from whatever weapons you're carrying then go in and melee his health down some. Use any epinephrine spikes that you're carrying.
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Jul 8, 2011 15:09
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Question about the end of Moscow What exactly do you have to do to call in Brayko to deal with Surkov? I have managed to do this before, but I forgot what exactly was involved. I know you can't accept Surkov's deal when you meet him in that last mission. Do you need to avoid taking his cash? Do you have to have a positive rep with Brayko? I think I managed to get that before, but this time I can't seem to find the right options to increase his reputation after the boss fight. I tried it once already and had a neutral rep with Brayko, but I never got the option to sic him on Surkov.
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Jul 8, 2011 16:27
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Oxxidation posted:This is the only unique event I haven't gotten, but I think I know how to set it off. Get Surkov pissed at you before encountering him for the final time (-3 Rep or lower). This is easy to do if you don't endear yourself to him at the embassy, stick to Suave during your second meeting, and reject his proposal to let Brayko take the fall for the weapons deals. He'll sic Championchik on you automatically then. Ok, I just made a dumb mistake. I thought the call in Brayko option was seperate from the execute choice. I did spare him and not take the cash. I'm gonna see if taking the cash still lets you do it. I'm not sure about the rep with Surkov. I had him at 0 and was able to do it. I got Bryako up to +1 after letting him execute Surkov. I would swear that I was able to get him like +2 or +3 in one run. Maybe it depends on if you're stealthy during the mission and what kind of reputation Mike has? I still haven't figured out how to get Brayko to kill Championchik for you.
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Jul 8, 2011 17:00
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the_american_dream posted:I just realized I never fought Championchik at all, which I just knew I would have to after seeing him in Surkov's office that one cutscene. You need to do two things there. You must let Brayko live long enough to figure out Surkov was lying to you and he's the one that's been dealing with Halbech all along. This lets you do the final Moscow mission. In that mission, you will confront Surkov and you can't agree to his deal if he likes you. He probably won't offer you the deal if he doesn't like you. Then, you get to fight Championchik.
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Jul 8, 2011 17:24
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Hannibal Smith posted:My favorite email of them all is the sarcastic Time-cube rant you can send to Heck. I've been looking for a screenshot of it, but I haven't had any luck. I'll have to remember to get one the next time I play. This one? Holy crap Steven, we're THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS! It goes deeper than that - the men in charge of the banking system want to DENY 4 Opposite Corner Days! The word Earth indicates One, Entity, or Singularity, but Earth is not an Entity, for the Half of Earth seen from Space cannot exist without the Opposite Half NOT SEEN! Evil God Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner Days rotating simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Earth - in only 1 rotation!
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Jul 8, 2011 21:31
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Pornographic Memory posted:I'm not sure if my next run through I wanna do Veteran Thorton, trying to do right all the mistakes I felt I made in my first game, or Veteran Thorton as a wisecracking rear end in a top hat who shoots everybody who crosses him and keeps company with psychos. Why not do both? I'd recommend the rear end in a top hat Thorton first. It's also nice after playing the game all stealthy to just not give any fucks about alarms or stealth or collateral damage. It's not splinter cell, so go hog wild with your assault rifle.
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Jul 9, 2011 05:19
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Revenant Threshold posted:Question for the end of Moscow; In my first run, I had tech pumped, and so got the option to save both the Halbech data and my helpful handler. Second run as a rookie I didn't so I didn't; now i'm going through it as a veteran, and my tech is high enough, but instead I get a veteran option which is basically "gently caress 'em, they knew the risks". You can do both. Just choose the veteran option, grab the info first, and then go for the captive ally second. There is a bug if you choose the option to leave them there, you will get stuck and won't be able to advance the mission. I did this and had to restart the mission. Torsade de Pointes fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Jul 10, 2011 |
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Jul 10, 2011 02:35
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Nehru the Damaja posted:It's funny for a game that otherwise was so obviously not made with gun-porn in mind. You look at the fictional guns, the ridiculous mods and justifications for how they work, etc. and just kinda shake your head. I wonder if someone has that picture saved of that one modified assault rifle. I'm not quite sure on the details, but it looked like you couldn't even actually aim the thing. I think it had a scope, iron sights, and a laser pointer all on the top
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Jul 10, 2011 07:27
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Nehru the Damaja posted:This one?
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Jul 10, 2011 16:04
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Hank Morgan posted:If you have the PC version you can extract music and dialogue files using this tool. End spoilers I thought if you contacted Parker at the end, he says that he initiated the missile strikes on orders from Halbech. But, I thought he said they didn't really want to kill you either. Westridge was probably gonna order you to vacate the area before Mina cuts him off, but you can't really know that for sure. Too bad you can't ask him about it at the end of the game if he's the boss.
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Jul 10, 2011 17:52
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Hank Morgan posted:I suppose it could be argued that when Mina flagged Mike as going rogue that whomever had their finger on the missile launch button paniced. The original plan could have been to just recover the missiles, bring Mike back to the controlled enviroment of the Greybox and then destroy the evidence. When Mike was flagged as rogue they decided they had to both destroy the missiles and kill Mike. One thing I wonder is how the missiles get there so quickly. I would assume they couldn't launch them until you pin down the convoy in one location. Tomahawks can only fly about 500 mph. They'd have to be launching them from pretty close by to hit the convoy in that time frame.
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Jul 10, 2011 18:08
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Oxxidation posted:Here's what happened: Halbech wanted the missiles erased to cover up their involvement with Shaheed. Parker, being Halbech's main man in Alpha Protocol, then authorized the missile strike on Mike's location. He didn't give a poo poo about what happened to Mike; if he died, aces, if not, then they could unperson him when he got back to HQ. Mina, seeing the opportunity, instead terminated Mike's agent status immediately after the missiles struck, and coaxed him into opposing Alpha Protocol and Halbech instead. That's pretty much what I thought except for the kill you part when you get back. Parker himself says that he just wanted to observe you after you got back. He didn't really want to kill you unless he was forced into it because you are a valuable asset. Mike impressed him because Parker thought he had real low odds of succeeding before going into Saudi Arabia.
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Jul 10, 2011 18:13
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Lotish posted:Okay, I've been able to do pretty good with everything so far but here near the end the boss fight with the smug man-baby is complete bullshit. He does 95 damage with one shot and the constantly spawning soldiers make it impossible to get to his fortified position. The sniper encampment in the tower is not much better because he sees me just fine and I can't get but two shots in him before I drop dead. And if I get out of the sight of his death ray gun he carpet bombs the stage. The tower with the sniper rifle in it is the way to go. I don't think I even took damage fighting him that way. Just run or stealth your way to that door. If you've got an EMP grenade use it and climb the ladder. If you don't, just kick the door in. Then shoot him a couple times in the face with the sniper rifle. Alternatively, if you have stealth and chain shot you can stealth up to the middle of the battlefield, unload a master chainshot on him, and run back to the start. Do this one or two more times and the fight is over.
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Jul 10, 2011 19:16
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Lotish posted:Is there a way to get through Parker's challenge without being seen or punching any throats? Even with maxed stealth for that level I can't seem to get by the first guard without being detected somehow. He turns around before I get through the door and blows through my low level evasion. Silent Running, use it. You're wearing heavy armor as a veteran. It's either that or stay in your hospital gown. Edit: If you mean ghosting it, I'm not sure if that's possible. It is perfectly fine to knock all the guards out as long as they aren't alerted to your presence.
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Jul 10, 2011 21:40
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Rabbit Hill posted:I tried to get Marburg to at least dislike me in our first meeting but it seems that it's not just always being smug is the way to go about that -- you also have to kill CIA agents and Al-Bara? I got two positive rep points for being quiet and not attracting attention while in Rome during that conversation, much to my dismay. I'm pretty sure you must have the suave perk to bait him into fighting you to the death if that's what you're going for. I did one run where I had him at -6 rep. I took out Al-bara and the CIA guards with lethal force. I used all suave dialog options with him, but he ran away at the end. I had the aggressive perk instead of suave perk on that run. I did another run where I had the suave perk and ghosted the CIA listening post and spared Al-bara. I took all the suave dialogue options with Marburg and only got him to -3. However, this time he stayed to fight me to death.
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Jul 10, 2011 21:47
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Doc Hawkins posted:It is, like I said, I've done it. It changes the dialogue with Parker very slightly: instead of Thorton saying "whatever, they don't know it was me" and Parker scoffing and getting -1 rep, Mike says "No one saw me that I know of," and Parker says "that'll have to do." The same thing happens if you knock out all the guards, provided you don't raise their alertness. I knocked them all out last time and he said the exact same thing and I got +1 rep.
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Jul 10, 2011 22:52
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Here's something I never thought to try out. (Moscow and Taiwan spoilers) Does anyone know what happens if you kill Albatross in the assault on Brayko's mansion and then do the G22 mission in Taiwan? Is that mission still available? Does someone else from G22 contact you at the end? Does the end sequence where you get contacted just not happen?
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Jul 11, 2011 03:00
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I would like to recommend a gadget heavy play through if you haven't done so. It is quite amusing to lay down traps and lure guards into it with your noise maker. Also, stealthing up to guards and planting bombs at their feet and not getting harmed by your weapons. It's like I'm a suicide bomber, without the suicide part You will still probably want to have some relevant weapon training to fall back on in case you run out of gadgets during the mission.
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Jul 11, 2011 06:32
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Oh god dammit. I feel completely stupid for not realizing this way earlier. If you hold the trigger button, it will skip ahead through conversation unless you're at a point where you must pick dialogue. How did I not realize this earlier? 
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Jul 13, 2011 02:58
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I somehow triggered a hilarious bug fighting (Moscow)Sis on the yacht. During the boss fight, she bugged out and started moving and firing at something like 6x or greater her normal speed. It was like trying to fight an Agent from the Matrix or some poo poo. She'd pop up for like 1/3rd of a second and fire all her shots in that time. I decided to try to stealth up to her. As soon as I use Shadow Operative, she runs to my position near instantly. I try to punch her in the face, but she killed me in less than a second with her rate of fire and reload
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Jul 16, 2011 00:50
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Chortles posted:Now I'm set up in the Saudi Arabia safehouse, think I'll stick with the starting pistol (with Silencer and Pistol Laser Sight) and the starting Shotgun for a "semi-stealth run". By the way, can I respec any time in Saudi Arabia or only after dealing with Shaheed? (I ask this since I want to do the "kick the lieutenant" moment but I don't know if that's a cutscene or a "no detections allowed" takedown.) AFAIK, you can only respec at the end of Saudi Arabia when you get to choose your specializations. (Mini boss in Saudi Arabia)It's a cutscene that plays if you make it to the middle of the bridge there without getting detected. You can do it without any points in stealth or pistols. It took a few reloads, but I was able to do it. Just shoot the first guy in the face with a critical shot from the pistol. Move up along the wall on your left and wait by those crates until both of the remaining guards have turned their backs to you. Then, you just move quietly for the bridge and ignore the guards and that's it. Just be aware of the guy patrolling on top so he doesn't spot you either.
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Jul 16, 2011 18:02
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Rabbit Hill posted:Someone in the old thread posted about getting this exchange with Marburg after a game of mostly professional dialogue options (I can't find it now to quote exactly) -- I just recently came across this line. (end of Rome stuff) I got this from going for the bombs in the museum instead of Madison. Not sure how much is necessary to trigger it besides picking the first Agressive dialogue choice when Marburg shoots Madison. I had Thorton act pretty much like a consummate professional up until that point. Marburg really liked Thorton too. Thorton also had high rep with Madison. Here's how I remember the conversation going. (Marburg shoots Madison) Marburg: You brought it on her. Anger Response: You psychopathic SON OF A BITCH! Marburg: Hardly. You blame me? You made the choice. Thorton: She wanted to stop you from killing me and bombing a museum full of people. You're a dead man. Marburg: We both already are... in our own way. I didn't expect seeing you lose control would be so satisfying There was no mention of Deus Vult that I saw. Torsade de Pointes fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Jul 17, 2011 |
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Jul 17, 2011 04:15
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Doc Hawkins posted:Really? I've always seen Marburg say it right before he shoots Madison in the back. He does say the phrase beforehand. I thought the person I was quoting meant Marburg was supposed to explain the meaning. I tried a few different times, but no option seemed to have Mike talk about Deus Vault even though I had a complete history on Marburg and knew about the Parker connection. I have seen Mike explain Deus Vult and why Marburg chose the Museum if you go to save Madison instead of the stopping the bombing.
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Jul 17, 2011 04:37
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Vizrt posted:I'm doing the Embassy mission in Moscow at the moment as Veteran. I get into the elevator and someone (Sie? She's my handler. Didn't sound like Mina or her though) starts humming this very familiar tune that I can't place for some reason. Caught me by surprise as I had not encountered that before. It's the Ride of the Valkyries. Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92OBNsQgxU
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Jul 18, 2011 04:33
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The perk for getting through 5 missions with no alarms and fewer than 5 kills was way easier for me to get than that One with the Shadows perk, which is also an achievement. Getting through 3 missions without being spotted at all and fewer than 5 kills is pretty tough cause there are so few missions where it's doable. The no alarms is much easier cause you can just take everyone out before they raise the alarm or shoot the alarm itself before it goes off.
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Jul 18, 2011 15:48
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TotallyGreen posted:Other than the mini games, is this game dramatically better on either Keyboard or 360 controller? I have both, but I generally prefer keyboard. I've heard the 360 controller makes the mini games easier and helps with the camera issues on the PC version. I've never verified it myself because I have the xbox version.
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Speedball posted:Pacifist runs have some surprising benefits. If you nonlethally take down a ton of guys, you get this huge boost to your endurance eventually. It's hard to do cause there's only like 3 or 4 levels that you won't be spotted on. The ones I can remember where it's doable are the airfield, the listening post, and molotek offices.
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Jul 27, 2011 02:47
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seorin posted:Is that true on the PC version? I know there are some levels where an alarm goes off automatically, but those seemed like the exception rather than the rule, and if you're a masochist like me, you can actually do any other (non-boss) level without being spotted (if you're willing to wait on cooldowns and use them liberally). Doesn't have to be an alarm necessarily. Basically, no enemy awareness icon can turn red from what I understand. From what I recall, at least half the levels are impossible. Saudi ArabiaThe Jizan stockpile and Intercept Shaaheed missions are not doable. You will always be spotted. I know you can do the airfield, not sure about Nasri's palace. You can talk your way through the beginning, but I'm not sure if that counts for being spotted. It's still very hard to do on these levels cause you don't have much of the stealth abilities unlocked. RomeI don't believe the Chateau, NSA Gelato shop, Contacting Madison, or talking to Marburg at the cafe missions count for this perk. The CIA hub is possible. You will always be spotted during the warehouse, Marburg's mansion, ruins transmission, and museum missions. TaipeiAgain, I don't believe contacting Heck, President Sung, or Hong Shi count towards the perk. The Warehouse is probably doable. You will always be spotted during the Triad, NSB Conference, Intercepting the Assassination Plan, and the Rally missions. MoscowContacting Grigori or Surkov doesn't count. You will always be spotted during the Trainyard, Lazo's Yacht, The Embassy, and Brako's mansion. The last optional mission with Molotek is doable if you take Surkov's deal. Torsade de Pointes fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Jul 27, 2011 |
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Jul 27, 2011 03:14
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Slantedfloors posted:Nasri's isn't possible. Bluffing your way past the guards only gets you through the front gate, the alarm goes off 10 seconds after the next checkpoint loads and the guards call in to report your arrival If you use the aggressive response, they just let you in. They never check to see if you're supposed to be there and there is no alarm sounded. I was just unsure if talking to them at the beginning has any effect on the perk if you take that option.
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Jul 27, 2011 03:25
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:Human Revolution is pretty much strictly better than AP in every single gameplay category you can name. Melee combat 
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Oxxidation you have a serious case of confirmation bias if you actually think the AP fan base is worse than the dregs of the ME fan base. I remember reading about how one dude tried to analyze how Tali's sweat would taste using what he learned in Organic chemistry
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Doctor Fatty posted:Speaking of Recruit, is there a cheat/hack/save/whatever to unlock Veteran on the PC version? You could probably just download an endgame save as recruit. I'm not sure what you'd need to edit to enable veteran.
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