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Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Did someone ask for me?

OP, the President goes by "Jed". "Jeb" is the name that a terrible fictional former Florida governor goes by.

Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Jul 8, 2011

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Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Scuttle_SE posted:

Mister "Lemon" Lyman? Don't you know how these forays into the internet-world usually turn out for you?
CJ only told me to stay off that one site! She never said anything about SA. :smug:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Alter Ego posted:

So, Josh, do you still think that the White House can order a GAO review of anything it wants?
The White House does not engage in any activity that violates the 5th Amendment or Title 6.

quote:

Also, CJ did say she'd shove a motherboard SO FAR UP YOUR rear end if she caught wind of you doing anything like this again.
CJ's too busy with "development" so I'm pretty sure my rear end is in the clear. :smug:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


TheBigBad posted:

What's Sam like after an intern owns him?
Ainsley wasn't an intern when they appeared on Capital Beat.

scarymonkey posted:

Josh, why the pornstache?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3g50Q8nuMQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Ladies love the stache.

Alter Ego posted:

What's it like every time Lou Thornton owns your rear end in a campaign? Does it make you feel less like a man, Josh? :smug:
At least I'm not from New Jersey. :smug:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


mdemone posted:

Jesus H. Christ. I think my brain just blew a fuse there. (They do look kind of similar, though, you gotta admit.)

And she really is smoking hot, despite me confusing her for a similarly-smoking actress.
No, it's not like I'm a drug person. I just love pot!

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


myron_cope posted:

Ah, I thought the cocaine stuff was pre-WW.

edit: And I'd heard the stuff about Lowe being the "star" of the show as initially planned and then it becoming more of an ensemble, but I wasn't sure if his actual departure was planned from the start of season 4 or if one day he just said gently caress it and left or something.
My understanding is that Sam was supposed to be the star of the show, but Bartlett had a better reception, and so the showrunners did something you rarely see - they reacted and started focusing things around Bartlett.

Also, I'm clearly a better character than Sam. :colbert:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Alter Ego posted:

Josh, you sleep in a dumpster last night?
Tuesday nights are rough man.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


kissyboots13 posted:

No, I have the exact same reaction to her. I find her unbelievably irritating, every time she is on screen. I think it's a common reaction, or at least I've never heard anyone say they LIKE Mandy.
In the pilot, when she and Josh are eating in the diner and the two Florida State girls come up to him, the final shot when says "Yeah" in response to Josh's question, "You and Lloyd Russell?", the way she says that as she takes a bite of her sandwich always bothered me.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


I adopted 3 month old brother/sisters kittens today and my roommate suggested name them Josh and C.J.. Great idea, or greatest idea?

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3433483

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


t3ch3 posted:

Josh and Donna would be more appropriate, no?
In season 7, Josh and Donna get together so that would be inappropriate. :colbert:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Josh Lyman posted:

I adopted 3 month old brother/sisters kittens today and my roommate suggested name them Josh and C.J.. Great idea, or greatest idea?

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3433483
So my roommate and I have settled on CJ for the girl, but we're debating between Sam and Leo for the boy. Thoughts?

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Rums posted:

17 People stands as one of my favorite episodes of this series, but I have a pressing question. Since 17 People contains tons of spoilers for season 1 through the first episode of season 2, it doesn't make for a very good intro to the show for someone new. I want to get my friend to start watching what is my absolute favorite TV show, but I can't decide on an episode to direct him to to start off. Basically don't want anything that will spoil the revelation that Bartlet has MS so if anyone has a good recommendation that doesn't bring up that plot point, let me know. I also don't care which season it's from, as long as it stands as a good intro to the series.
I like the pilot, but I can understand if that's not your cup of tea. The season 1 finale, where Bartlet is retelling a story at the town hall is good. In Excelsis Deo is very popular here, and Two Cathedrals may or may not have the aforementioned references.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


TheBigBad posted:

He likes to talk about himself.
He like to talk as if he's on coke.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj4PwyfDNuI

For an episode that aired in 1999, it's rather timely for 2012.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


The SARS Volta posted:

:respek:
When I read this, I actually said out loud, "Wait, I wrote that?"

It would be something I'd say in real life.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Joementum posted:

The college girls asking for Josh's signature is pretty bad too.
If you were a Florida State undergrad, you're going to tell me you wouldn't ask for his signature if you came across him in a deli? :colbert:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


MC Fruit Stripe posted:

List of people who know the current deputy chief of staff's name who do not work in the White House and are not employed by the Washington Post

1. the guy who put it on Wikipedia
2.
Right now is a different situation. The scene described is more akin to Rahm Emmanuel holding the post in 2010.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Joementum posted:

Rahm was not the deputy chief of staff in 2010.
:doh: Yeah, I guess deputy chief of staff is a different matter.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

I'm just beginning to watch Season 4 again, and you get to the scene where Charlie refuses to explain the details of Separation of Church and State to his Little Brother, and makes him study the Constitution. The dude then writes Charlie an angry letter on the back of the first amendment.

I know freedom of religion is in the first, but isn't the Separation of Church and State spelled out in one of the ancillary letters Jefferson wrote, not the Consitution?
The First Amendment says that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. That spells out separation of church and state at least implicitly.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


MC Fruit Stripe posted:

We lit-er-al-ly watched that episode tonight. My wife is on her first viewing of the series, and we're 2 episodes away from Two Cathedrals, which will determine whether or not I'm willing to have children with her. Dislike it, I dare you, sweetie.
Wait, you married someone before figuring out whether they like West Wing? That's a dangerous game.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Alter Ego posted:

I couldn't figure out why it was so funny until I realized that during the pre-credits sequence Babish mentions that the record button is stuck and it won't stop recording everything.

Then it made sense, and the scene where he smashes it just became that much funnier.
I don't understand how you watch the smashing scene without seeing the cold open. Youtube!!! :argh:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Ainsley Hayes decimating the Equal Rights Amendment.

A new amendment we vote on declaring that I am equal under the law to a man, I am mortified to discover there's reason to believe I wasn't before. I am a citizen of this country, I am not a special subset in need of your protection. I do not have to have my rights handed down to me by a bunch of old, white, men. The same Article 14* that protects you, protects me, and I went to law school just to make sure.

Sold

E: and to be clear, the show doesn't necessary have to shape your opinion, my point is more that it presents a stance and *then backs it up*, which is what I love. Even if you come out of the other end of the census episode still against sampling, you can no longer pretend to not understand why there are people who favor sampling. That kind of thing.


* - Hmm, I found this quote online. It's actually the 14th amendment, but even thinking about it in my mind, I think she says "article 14", which would be a bit of a misstep, but I'll ignore that
Whoo boy, you'd love The Newsroom thread about a week ago. :allears:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


HorseHeadBed posted:

Was certain that it was going to be this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBqokPYnhhE
Did someone say my name?

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


298298 posted:

All of Ainsley's arguments are stupid. Even though most of them are worded/delivered to make her look like she was right or 'holding her own' it's all superficial horse poo poo and I can only think Sorkin did it on purpose.

Her ERA logic is only more hilarious when judged by today's republican attitude towards women.
I'm gonna say that conservatives of 15 years ago would find today's Republican party quite abhorrent.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


gohuskies posted:

Conservatives of 15 years ago like Newt Gingrich?
I don't know if he was any more sensible back in the 90s, but Mitt Romney is just the latest example of a high-profile Republican who's jumped the shark.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Also, Ainsley's ERA argument is perfectly fine and we should probably start enforcing the 14th amendment.
Missouri apparently felt it necessary to pass an amendment that's essentially freedom of religion.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


cams posted:

Yeah, I've always felt that Ainsley had a good point, though I have limited knowledge of the ERA. Is there something in particular that would distinguish it from the 14th?
The 14th says all people shall have equal protection of the law. The ERA says you shall not discriminate on the basis of gender. They're two sides of the same coin.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


shelper posted:

I kept waiting for Leo to show up.

Then i remembered. :(
Why... why must you do this? :cry: :cry: :cry:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


myron cope posted:

In this building, when the president stands, nobody sits.

help me I can't stop watching
Working as intended. Move along people.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


So uh, I should probably buy back my avatar. I was thinking of going with:

quote:


President Bartlet's a good man.
He's got a good heart.
He doesn't hold a grudge.
That's what he pays me for.
But I'm not in love with it. Suggestions?

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Caufman posted:

This and not supporting a study on remote prayer to pass a foreign ops bill were my biggest Bartlett letdowns. Danny was right, why are Democrats always so bumfuzzled?
Remote prayer? Is that what I think it is? Because aside from the whole :tinfoil: implication, I'm pretty sure there have actually been studies done on it already.






Obviously they don't work

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Complete series boxed set is $90 on Amazon right now :supaburn: http://www.amazon.com/The-West-Wing-Complete-Collection/dp/B000HC2LI0/

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Glitterbomber posted:

To bump this thread with happier news, West Wing is on Netflix Instant finally and I'm doing a total rewatch, forgot how great this show was.
Thank loving god it's winter break and I'm not teaching.

Unfortunately, I still have to do research. :negative:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


JULIAN ASSANGE posted:

This is a reminder that the West Wing has the best Christmas episodes of any show.
When Mrs Landingham tells the story of her sons in Vietnam... :cry:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Naet posted:

I'm watching the Season 6/7 campaign and man, I totally forgot how bad The Debate is.

Strikes against:
-It's a gimmick episode. I'll admit this is a personal issue as I hate the 9/11 episode and the CJ documentary episode.
-It's one of the worst examples of West Wing political fantasies (long goofy speeches, rounds of applause for democracy, having a "real" debate).
-The "live" televising is problematic because of dropped lines and awkward pauses (which is arguably intentional to give it a live debate feel, but Smits really struggled here).
-Despite wanting to be a "real" debate, it suffers from the same issue of watching two candidates re-explain their platforms that the audience already knows. Clips of that is good. 40 minutes of is not.
I actually thought it was fairly similar to the final town hall debate.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Platystemon posted:

Trusting Cheney never backfired, so I suppose it worked for him.

Meanwhile, Obama sends Biden on the very important mission of meeting with videogame executives about gun control. Or maybe it was Biden’s idea and Obama was just humouring him.

Whatever the case, I can’t imagine Cheney meeting with Mattel about drink driving.
Did Biden also meet with the NRA last week or did Obama take that one personally?

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


pentyne posted:

Finally got to season 5, the first season Aaron Sorkin left. You know what really jumps out? The insane amount of shakey cam. Who the gently caress is allowed to ok that?
Season 5 started in 2003. The Bourne Identity came out in 2002. :aaa:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Remember, literally half of this country actually thought Obama was born in another country because he's black.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


MC Fruit Stripe posted:

If a white guy is dating Sasha, what does a racist say? Good, this'll give the Obamas some class?
There was a woman interviewed by NPR at some Republican rally in September who said, "I just — I don't like him," Bobbie Lussier said of President Obama. "Can't stand to look at him. I don't like his wife. She's far from the first lady. It's about time we get a first lady in there that acts like a first lady and looks like a first lady."

Here's the story: http://www.npr.org/2012/08/30/160293862/romney-courts-veterans-at-american-legion-convention

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Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


I'm not saying you're saying this, but having an administration that prominently featured African Americans would be quite unrealistic in 1999. Hell, Condoleeza Rice wasn't appointed Secretary of State until 2005, and the same arguments that Obama isn't "black enough" would certainly apply to Rice.

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