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Crossposting from PYF because I think this thread will appreciate it:
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Crossposting from PYF because I think this thread will appreciate it: Not really
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Jan 17, 2018 18:03
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Crossposting from PYF because I think this thread will appreciate it: I appreciate it.
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Jan 17, 2018 18:23
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i've started speedrunning a terrible game from my childhood (Pandemonium! 2) and as far as i can tell only one guy has ever speedrun it before and it was a TAS, but several of my routes were already faster than it when i first watched it, so it's already kinda obsolete i dunno where i'm going with this but i'm caught up in the post-GDQ hype and it's super fun to speedrun games and i highly recommend it to everyone
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Jan 17, 2018 18:39
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Studio posted:Do I learn RUINER, Steamworld Dig 2, or Rise of the Tomb Raider Come run Toys! on the Genesis with me. It's all SexRex's fault.
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Jan 17, 2018 18:52
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Crossposting from PYF because I think this thread will appreciate it: hell yeah
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Jan 17, 2018 19:14
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Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:i've started speedrunning a terrible game from my childhood (Pandemonium! 2) and as far as i can tell only one guy has ever speedrun it before and it was a TAS, but several of my routes were already faster than it when i first watched it, so it's already kinda obsolete Hell yea speedruns
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Jan 17, 2018 19:28
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So I'm working on that list of example runs for the new thread and decided to also start approaching it from the angle of considering game first and speedrun second, too, for some well-known games and such. My current list looks like this.
Would anyone say that there's anything "missing" from this list? From a game popularity perspective, the only thing I guess I don't have is a Zelda. And again let me emphasize that it's not meant to just be a list of good runs - it's meant to be a list of good introduction runs for people new to speedrunning. I've refrained from heavily glitched runs for that reason, too. Edit: I want the list to have at most 10 runs on it and I'm going to have a similar list for TASes too, so feel free to suggest TASes as well. KennyMan666 fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jan 17, 2018 |
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Jan 17, 2018 19:35
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AGDQ has made me want to start speedrunning again, but I need a controller that doesn't have some hot garbage for a D-Pad, because bad D-Pads make playing Mega Man, even a casual play through, a fun sucking experience.
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Jan 17, 2018 19:36
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KennyMan666 posted:Would anyone say that there's anything "missing" from this list? From a game popularity perspective, the only thing I guess I don't have is a Zelda. And again let me emphasize that it's not meant to just be a list of good runs - it's meant to be a list of good introduction runs for people new to speedrunning. I've refrained from heavily glitched runs for that reason, too. Honestly Cosmo / Narcissa's 30 minute AGDQ OoT run was the first speedrun a lot of my friends saw and it hooked them. I think it deserves a spot on the list.
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Jan 17, 2018 19:40
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Suspicious Dish posted:Honestly Cosmo / Narcissa's 30 minute AGDQ OoT run was the first speedrun a lot of my friends saw and it hooked them. I think it deserves a spot on the list.
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Jan 17, 2018 19:54
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you should put an awful game on the list to show that awful games can be good speedruns
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Jan 17, 2018 20:21
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DoubleDonut posted:you should put an awful game on the list to show that awful games can be good speedruns Lagoon, imo
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Jan 17, 2018 20:25
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One of PJs Lagoon runs is absolutely a great choice for that. I can put a link here when I get home, but the Awful Games one (2016? 2017? I forget) is a good choice.
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Jan 17, 2018 20:28
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He already has the awful furry game on the list though.
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Jan 17, 2018 20:35
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OoT sounds good to me, gets another 3D game on the list too. Assuming you mean the one from AGDQ 2013, so added that one. I'm not entirely averse to having a bad game on the list as well, though then it definitely needs to be a well-known game, be a fairly short run with good commentary, and be obvious that it's being played fast/skillfully. I guess the Superman 64 AGDQ run actually works for that, so maybe that should get the final spot. Edit: And people suggested Lagoon while I was typing, but I would argue that Lagoon is too long and too obscure to be a good choice. KennyMan666 fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jan 17, 2018 |
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Jan 17, 2018 20:49
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Catechumen might be worth at least considering for the awful game representation. That game never fails to make me smile.
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Jan 17, 2018 20:54
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Thinking about it, Superman 64 actually probably is a good choice, given how legendarily bad that game is and the AGDQ run clocked in at under 40 minutes and got SpikeVegeta on commentary. So this should be the final list, but I'm still open for arguments from people with strong opinions:
Want a list of about five TASes as well so I'm going to get to work on that. KennyMan666 fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jan 17, 2018 |
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Jan 17, 2018 21:08
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What kind of TASs did you want? The playarounds like International Superstar soccer deluxe and Family Feud, glitchy ACE runs like Super Mario World, or something like 1 key Super Mario 64, or even less glitches and just a superplay sort of run?
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Jan 17, 2018 21:19
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Xenothral posted:AGDQ has made me want to start speedrunning again, but I need a controller that doesn't have some hot garbage for a D-Pad, because bad D-Pads make playing Mega Man, even a casual play through, a fun sucking experience. If you're looking for a USB/Bluetooth controller, iBuffalo and 8bitdo do make replica NES and SNES controllers that feel shocking close to the real thing. 8bitdo recently came out with an SNES replica that has all the standard features of a modern controller, although it feels just slightly weird since more or less keep it conformed to the SNES controller standard (triggers feel off, for instance.) I've also heard nothing but good things about the Dpad of both the Xbox one regular and the pro controllers, if you are willing to drop probably too much cash.
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Jan 17, 2018 21:30
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Yukari posted:What kind of TASs did you want? The playarounds like International Superstar soccer deluxe and Family Feud, glitchy ACE runs like Super Mario World, or something like 1 key Super Mario 64, or even less glitches and just a superplay sort of run? KennyMan666 fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jan 17, 2018 |
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Jan 17, 2018 21:30
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The 1 key SM64 run is art. Not sure if it's the best beginner run but it's art.
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Jan 17, 2018 22:16
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If you include the family feud tas then here 
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Jan 17, 2018 22:29
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FirstAidKite posted:If you include the family feud tas then here My list currently looks like this, needs at the very least one more game but should probably have at least two 3D games and one *GDQ TASBot thing (maybe the recent Super Monkey Ball one), and is much less solid than the speedrun list:
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Jan 17, 2018 22:34
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I definitely think a Brain Age GDQ one should feature. Wasn't there one that loaded the Twitch chat in?
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Jan 17, 2018 22:36
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The Lobster posted:I definitely think a Brain Age GDQ one should feature. Wasn't there one that loaded the Twitch chat in?
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Jan 17, 2018 22:44
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KennyMan666 posted:While these are fantastic, if I'm including any TAS of that kind, Brain Age is a better candidate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tafCE6GJrhQ
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Jan 17, 2018 22:46
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Yeah, while TASBlocks are neat, they mostly are just arbitrary code injection from what I've seen, which is entertaining, but is mostly just a showcase. Though actual TAS runs are super neat most the time.
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Jan 17, 2018 22:46
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Yoshi's Island 100% should be on the list, because of how many crazy precise egg shots they have in there, along with movement tech. That or something like the Rockman and Forte 100 CDs run, where it slowly ramps up from "no glitches" to "light wallclips" to "oh god walls don't exist at all ever".
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Jan 17, 2018 22:48
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I just had an idea. A Peggle TAS would rule.
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Jan 17, 2018 22:57
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^ very yesYukari posted:Yoshi's Island 100% should be on the list, because of how many crazy precise egg shots they have in there, along with movement tech. That or something like the Rockman and Forte 100 CDs run, where it slowly ramps up from "no glitches" to "light wallclips" to "oh god walls don't exist at all ever". What I'm looking for the most right now would be good examples of TASes of 3D games. I agree that Super Mario 64 1 key is insane, but it's one of those where there's barely anything left at all of the original gameplay. If I'm including any SM64 TAS, it'll be 70 stars.
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Jan 17, 2018 23:00
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Goat Simulator TAS
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Jan 17, 2018 23:06
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DoctorWhat posted:In contrast, SM64 lets you start a file with the Start button, so in theory a 0.5 a-press full run could be possible if we could get past that loving pole. KennyMan666 posted:Edit: I want the list to have at most 10 runs on it and I'm going to have a similar list for TASes too, so feel free to suggest TASes as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idiHqQNDyMg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDx4KpYdykg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz1CZ5BV_88 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBxH_VmM51E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrWR5DqG4ZI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-G3I_jf7F0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNfA59m1LUs You should probably also include a link to the Stars page too. edit: KennyMan666 posted:Just like with the speedrun examples, I'm looking for videos that aren't too long - none of them should break one hour, and Yoshi's Island 100% clocks in at two.
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Jan 17, 2018 23:12
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gotta include that mario 3 tas that everyone thought was real back in the day.
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Jan 17, 2018 23:19
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beep by grandpa posted:I just had an idea. A Peggle TAS would rule. well gently caress now i won't be complete until i find one
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Jan 17, 2018 23:22
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E: Wrong thread!
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Jan 17, 2018 23:24
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F-Zero X - Jack cup is a short, very good TAS imo. Good illustrator of how the best TASes aren't just Regular Gameplay But Optimized, and how the best speed games have systems that can be exploited in interesting/hilarious ways.
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Jan 17, 2018 23:43
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If anyone want a game to start speedrunning, I suggest Bionic Commando (2009) for the selfish reason of wanting someone to compare to that isn't way faster than me. Also maybe someone could figure out a way to do item flying reliably. Reformed Pissboy posted:F-Zero X - Jack cup is a short, very good TAS imo. Good illustrator of how the best TASes aren't just Regular Gameplay But Optimized, and how the best speed games have systems that can be exploited in interesting/hilarious ways. This owns.
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Jan 17, 2018 23:58
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Reformed Pissboy posted:F-Zero X - Jack cup is a short, very good TAS imo. Good illustrator of how the best TASes aren't just Regular Gameplay But Optimized, and how the best speed games have systems that can be exploited in interesting/hilarious ways. This is great. It's only 7.5 minutes, too! If I had to pick one TAS to show to somebody it'd be either that, or this Space Quest II TAS but as far as cold intros go the F-Zero X one is probably better.
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The F-Zero X one is great, definitely going on the list. Anyone can figure out how a racing game is supposed to work and that that's something else entirely, and also in a manner that a human player couldn't hope to replicate. And short. Perfect example.
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