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Let's talk hardcovers...and trade paperbacks, Absolute Editions, Library Editions, Ultimate Collections, Premieres, Deluxes, Masterworks, Archives, Essentials, Showcases, Omnibuses, Compendiums, Gargantuas, Whole-Shebangs, Custom Binds, and anything else with two covers and a bunch of comics in-between. There's a lot of books out there (I mean seriously, you have no idea how mind-bogglingly many books there are out there. I mean, you look at your walls and go "Hmm, that's a fair 'mount!" but then Glenn Danzig posts some pics, and well, now you're a sorry sausage) and there are a lot of versions of the same collected material because moneymoneymoney, so it can get confusing. Here are a few helpful resources: Collected Editions: often updated with reviews of new trades/hardcovers, and has a pretty extensive review archive. New solicitations are posted here as well. Collected Edition Release Schedule: Kept up to date (kinda sorta), so you'll never miss the newest Bomb Queen trade. ComicbookDB: Want to know, for example, what issues the trade of Batman R.I.P. collects? Easy cheesey. Or likewise, look up an issue and see what books include it. TERMINOLOGY BREAKDOWN Each publisher likes to use their own special made-up terms for their collected editions, so there's a lot of marketing-speak to wade though. DC: • Absolutes: Those gigantic slipcovered beasts that weigh 5 pounds, and are a good 13" high. You want to see every character that George Perez drew, here's the way to do it. They can get pricey, and you're probably not going to take them down off your shelf anyway. • Deluxe Hardcovers: DC's standard oversized hardcover, usually released a good 6 months after the last single issue contained within, and god knows when the paperback version will follow. Sometimes, DC puts a lot of love into them, with special gold or silver foil stampings on the front and ooh, how pretty! Sometimes, they release the Batman and Robin volumes. • Archives: Beautiful HC reproductions of DC's Golden and Silver Age comics. There are a lot of them, and pricey, so don't go nuts trying to buy them all. If you do, toss a Batman volume my way. • DC Omnibus: So far, a pretty random grab-bag of reprints. A lot of Jack Kirby, to be sure. And Starman! Why not! Unlike Marvel's Omniboo, these are not oversized, because DC hates you. Unless they are! I know the Green Lantern Omnibus is printed larger than the GL Archives, but if you want more accurate information, you'll just have to ask, mister. *direct link to someone who knows a lot more about these than I do* • Showcases (aka Showcase Presents): Thick, cheap, black-and-white reprints of older material, and DC's version of Marvel's Essential volumes. Each book includes over 500 pages of reprints, primarily from the Silver Age, but there is some slightly more modern fare represented (Ambush Bug, Booster Gold). MARVEL: • Premiere Hardcovers: Same size and contents as a standard trade paperback; these often arrive very shortly after the arc finishes its initial run, and trade versions will generally come out about 6 months or so after the HC drops (Someone correct me if I'm wrong). • Oversized, or Super-Sized Hardcovers: Same height as DC's Deluxes, but often collect more issues (but definitely not always). These are pretty fantastic, and hit that sweet spot of size, price, and usability. Marvel OSHCs are my favorite types of books out of all of these. • Marvel Omnibus: Break-your-wrists thick, oversized, will often collect 30+ issues. Actually says OMNIBUS on the spine. That's bonafide! • Essentials: 500+ black and white pages, phone-book sized, cheap, and often focus on a certain character or team. Perfect for taking a million issues of The Punisher with you on long bus rides. • Masterworks: The high-quality HC (and later paperback) reproductions of classic Atlas/Golden/Silver Age Marvel. Here's the full list. • Ultimate Collections: Thicker paperbacks that generally collect longer runs--each book often contains the same amount as 2-3 standard trade paperbacks, and are a great alternative to tracking down OOP Omnibuses (see: Alias, New X-Men, Daredevil). I wish DC did more stuff like this, as they'd be perfect for Hitman or Suicide Squad but nooOOOoooo they have to release those in tiny chunks Custom Binding You have maybe also seen talk about taking those piles of old comics you never take out of your longboxes and smashing them together Big Barda-style to create your own custom Hardcover binds. Many times this is done to collect stuff that's not going to be collected otherwise, due to licensing or lack of overall market interest. It's also done to create better versions of books the publishers actually did put out (I'm looking at you, DC One Million). Or maybe you don't feel like re-buying the same material twice. There's a bunch of reasons. This seems to have taken off in the last few years, and there are a few resources out there to help you get started. First off, there are two forums purely dedicated to this mad hobby, here and here. This page in particular will probably answer most of one's initial questions about what the hell custom binding is all about and how to get started. It really just boils down to prepping your comics for binding (ripping out double-sided ads & back covers mostly; don't worry, your comics aren't worth anything anyway!), sending what you want bound to a reputable bindery, waiting a few weeks, and then receiving a brand-spanking-new hardcover of your very own, personalized to your specifications. Please feel free to ask away though, there's a few of us who will be able to help you bring those back issues back to life! Once you get into it, you may find it really hard to stop: 2012 UPDATE: jimcunningham has started up a separate binding thread here. Retail Bits If you're looking to buy/sell/trade books from/to/with your fellow goons, hit up this thread over in SA-Mart. Amazon is easily one of the best places to go to buy books for low, low prices (often ~40% MSRP). Any order over $25 gets you free shipping as well, so go ahead and pick up that copy of Chew Vol. 1, future-starter! An Amazon Prime membership nets you unlimited free 2-day shipping with no minimum order size, so if you buy a lot, it might be worth it! I've not used DCBS myself, but I know a lot of people here use it all the time. If you do have old trades, and can't get rid of them, and they're not full of Lingerie Specials (you creep), think about donating them to your local library! Get your hometown kids hooked on X-Men, not Ecstasy! In Summary Feel free to post pics of your libraries, sagging shelves and weekend hauls, ask questions about replacement shelving because your last one cracked under the weight of 12 Marvel Omniboo and crushed your cat, inquire where you can get a new cat, post deals and steals, share your Amazon fishes (see below on how to do this), and ask away about whether anyone thinks it's weird that you mix your DC and Marvel books together. It is. redbackground fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Jan 3, 2012 |
# ¿ Aug 30, 2011 17:22 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 13:20 |
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Nodoze posted:Nice OP
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2011 18:28 |
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wildlele posted:Great OP! Maybe bold DC/Marvel and put a bold binding title? redbackground fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Aug 30, 2011 |
# ¿ Aug 30, 2011 20:35 |
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Glenn Danzig posted:Maybe something list this for the DC Omnibus Info: redbackground fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Aug 30, 2011 |
# ¿ Aug 30, 2011 20:58 |
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enigmahfc posted:I figured this is the best place to ask - Is the new Hardcover for Snyder's run on Detective his full run on the title? It says it's 288 pages, if that helps. I just wanted to be sure before I preordered that sucker.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2011 16:20 |
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Shameless posted:Then, with respect, go to the Masterworks messageboard. They already know everything there is to know about binding over there. and seriously, people posting book maps is the most boring poo poo ever.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2011 19:15 |
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Somehow, I was completely unaware that the Waid/Wieringo run on Fantastic Four had been collected in OSHC until I saw the first volume at a used book store this afternoon. Picked it up for a steal, and now it's on to grabbing the other volumes!
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2011 21:22 |
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Alhazred posted:So does is the later volumes going to include the stuff that wasn't released in tpbs? edit: I wonder how they would handle that, as the 3 issues before the final Brubaker issue are War Games crossovers--are they standalone enough? War Games! redbackground fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Sep 13, 2011 |
# ¿ Sep 13, 2011 21:58 |
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wdarkk posted:So assuming I want to own the "good" Power Girl comics (Amanda Conner) are there only two collections?
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2011 04:25 |
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Are the two Marvel Strange Tales hardcovers oversized, or regular sized?
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2011 14:48 |
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JackDarko posted:I'm really hoping that the hundred bullets hardcovers have nice paper. Like the Fables hardcovers, and not like the Y the last man, and Preacher ones. Wishful thinking on my part?
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2011 04:13 |
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I haven't read Flashpoint, but I assumed Booster Gold was a key book during that time.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2011 14:05 |
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Uber Kosh posted:wildlele and anyone else here than does custome binding, I've got a quick question for you: What's the maximum number of issues you'd put into a single volume?
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2011 22:57 |
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Ominous Jazz posted:I want to get a few comics bound but I've run into a few snags. Chiefly, I am an idiot and can't figure heads or tails of how to place an order. Any protips or sweet guides on how to do this?
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2011 06:52 |
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Ominous Jazz posted:I looked in the OP first but I still couldn't figure it out (this goes back to that whole idiot thing). I had a website but I'm on my mobile right now.
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2011 07:12 |
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Someone fill me in on why Crossing is so terrible--I've never even heard of it until now.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2011 04:57 |
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I'd been putting off on buying the old trades just in case of hardcover upgrades, but there's no way I'm buying that. edit: 1536 pages? Christ, the Spider-Man Omnibus is only 1088, and that thing could take a small child in a fistfight. My dainty wrists! redbackground fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Nov 22, 2011 |
# ¿ Nov 22, 2011 20:52 |
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Romav posted:Just got my copy of Batman: Black Mirror HC. Wow this book is thick. About as thick (if not thicker) as Batman: Hush. Hope it's as good as I've heard.
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2011 00:08 |
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Shameless posted:I think I'll pass. It's nice that they're releasing it but I'll stick with the three existing Deluxe HCs. It also seems a little bit incomplete for not having Return of Bruce Wayne in there too.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2011 16:07 |
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We need some more shelf shots 'round these parts.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2011 04:29 |
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krut posted:So they shipped your order before you even ordered it?
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2011 17:03 |
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Nodoze posted:Now that leviathan strikes came out, I can start my Batgirl custom bind.
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# ¿ Dec 23, 2011 05:18 |
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For those who have bought the We3 Deluxe Edition, what kind of stuff do the 10 new story pages cover?
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2011 15:57 |
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Hit up a local used book store during my lunch break and found a Dr. Strange/Dr. Doom: Triumph and Torment hardcover for six measly dollars.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2012 19:57 |
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Alhazred posted:If I were to pay fifty bucks for a volume of New X-Men I wouldn't only take it for granted that it was new but for that price I would also expect a signed nude photo of Grant Morrison to be included in the price because that's a huge amount of money to spend on one hardback. redbackground fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Jan 12, 2012 |
# ¿ Jan 12, 2012 20:16 |
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Kunzelman posted:Wait, so the whole volume is black and white?
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2012 23:47 |
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JackDarko posted:Absolute, just like the Batman and Robin one.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2012 23:54 |
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Rhyno posted:Because there isn't one. There's OSHCs but not Absolutes.
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2012 00:10 |
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Slayer1597 posted:I would like to know what is up with these : http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/Batman-Knightfall-Vol-1-Various/9781401233792-item.html?ikwid=knightfall&ikwsec=Home And stop saying Knightend! redbackground fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Jan 22, 2012 |
# ¿ Jan 22, 2012 02:04 |
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Shameless posted:An awesome (and much overlooked) little run from Barr and Davis, very highly recommended but it's maybe a little slim for the price point. Whatever, I'll be buying it. CBR's in-depth look at 'em redbackground fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Jan 31, 2012 |
# ¿ Jan 31, 2012 14:41 |
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Takei is Okay posted:Uh oh. No WILDCATS/ALIENS?
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2012 19:30 |
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Glenn Danzig posted:I almost hope it does not get cleared. What a stupid move putting this run in 2 standard hardcovers. loving DC, TAKE MY MONEY!
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2012 00:38 |
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Shameless posted:I know a bit bit of a petty old man when it comes to these sort of things but DC really know how to piss me off. Two trades, released on the same day: Catwoman has the covers in all the right places, Resurrection Man? Covers all bunched together at the back.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2012 16:45 |
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Rhyno posted:DC used to be bastards about that. All the covers would be reprinted like 6 to a page at the back of the book.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2012 17:06 |
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Jeremys Iron posted:Awesome news - I also appreciate how much cheaper and yet still very nice the Hellboy Library books are compared to omnibuses.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2012 15:30 |
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Starsnostars posted:1, 3, 4 and 5 were all fun, I think that it was only 2 that was really bad and not worth reading. I don't know how much this omnibus will contain though, I'm assuming those five numbered ones and not stuff like zombie christmas carol or whatever it was that came out recently.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2012 00:15 |
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wildlele posted:Why did I bind Vengeance of Bane sigh.... $338
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2012 20:59 |
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Rhyno posted:It exists and it hits retail tomorrow. I can't wait til tomorrow afternoon so I can take my copy home with me.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2012 21:00 |
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Saw this on CBR: I knew they were "upgrading" the coloring of the Flex HC a little bit, but I had no idea it was this drastic: Original on the left, 2012 version on the right. Goddammit, DC. redbackground fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Apr 6, 2012 |
# ¿ Apr 6, 2012 16:05 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 13:20 |
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d00gZ posted:I'm pretty sure Morrison and Quitely have both praised the recolor. Well, Neil G. praised the Sandman re-colorings, and those were an abomination (Gradients! Gradients everywhere!). The quality of the recolored FM looks better, but I honestly prefer the original color choices. I was just surprised how far the recoloring went. I'll just pick the book up used, instead.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2012 18:45 |