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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


how come joe is so dumb.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i've never seen joe not have an insane person on when it comes to politics but maybe he has. i stopped watching/listening after he signal boosted some lovely right wingers for the dozenth time.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


joe bogan.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


beep by grandpa posted:

I like Dave Rubin, what the hell is alt-right about him? Or is alt right just everyone right of progressive now. He had a very similar journey to mine as far as becoming very disillusioned with the left the last few years (especially us both being partv of marginalized groups that they try to court/pander to which I have a disgust for)

is this a bit?

he wasn't "disillusioned" the koches pay him tons of money to say the dumbest poo poo imaginable.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Guys like Rubin aren't alt-right but they sure as hell are useful to the alt-right as a jumping off point for retards looking to get a case of brain worms

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 00:07 on May 11, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


beep by grandpa posted:

He has videos on his journey, I've watched them all and I believe him. I could not give a poo poo less what other groups he attracts for saying things I agree with. That's not my problem. I am an individual, I'm not trying to change anyone's minds and I don't do the whole guilt-by-association thing. If you want to provide any sources for what you're trying to convince me of, go for it, but all I see his detractors saying on twitter are he's a bigot and he's involved in trans-murder which is all just nonsense I see them pull all the time, then they always shut the hell up when asked to source anything they're talking about. So I can't trust heresay anymore, I just think a lot of progressives don't like that a gay dude left the plantation when his rightful "place" is with them. It's the same exact thing black people have to go through with which is where I identify with him a lot.

hahahaahhahhh that is a good loving bit.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/21logician/status/872444814104694784

i don't think you're being a dick. you're just very dumb when it comes to politics. if you see a dave rubin tweet and don't think "that is dumb as gently caress" you're uninformed

https://askepticalhuman.com/politics/2017/11/26/refuting-dave-rubins-falsehoods-junk-arguments-in-david-pakman-interview

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 00:54 on May 11, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


he thinks mlk would be a conservative. mlk was a socialist. he's misrepresented and misquoted mlk multiple times.

i gotta laugh at you thinking i wouldn't grasp what dave "the rube" rubin was trying to say.

here's him being a dumb gently caress again:

https://twitter.com/21logician/status/831735058063056897

Malaria posted:

This conversation is dumber than Eddie Bravo

can't disagree.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 00:58 on May 11, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


he wouldn't have been displaced since the overton window has moved so far to the right (so he'd be considered even more left-wing nowadays).

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


gavin mcinnes's entry in the museum of self owns:

https://twitter.com/Gavin_McInnes/status/861780658779303936

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Seltzer posted:

It's not worth dialoguing with people in this thread who only come in here when a guest right of center appears on the show. Most of them are d and d regulars who are so far down the rabbit hole their only modes of engagement are insults and exaggeration.

lmao

"i don't know poo poo about poo poo so they must be exaggerating."

cosmically_cosmic posted:

And you know if you are legit talking in good faith when you say you're open to other points of view and stuff, you can just like google why people think the alt right is bad or certain people have a reputation as racists or bigots of one kind or another. It's a lot easier than opening with 'I assume it's what people say when they don't like your opinion' just sounds like you're lying, and are just upset about being associated with them.

yeah a quick google shows how dave "the rube" rubin has misrepresented mlk in the past it's not some one-off thing.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 13:06 on May 11, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Decades posted:

but Rubin's point seems to be that those ideas on the left conflict with anti-segregationist ideas and the I have a dream speech in particular, and I don't see anything incorrect about that.

the gently caress are you talking about.

Decades posted:

Like that's fine but maybe just don't post then? I don't get what's potentially constructive about this approach and it's not very funny either. Of course it's not your personal obligation to be that guy, but the growing void of people willing to talk about these things is frustrating and I wish someone else would step up, either to openly defend the radical left perspective or to openly oppose it from a place that isn't the right - in part for my personal curiosity, and in part because the left continuing to let its poo poo fall apart for another generation means burning time the world doesn't have.

it takes like five seconds of googling to debunk pretty much anything shapiro, rubin, et al say. i like how it's the left's fault and not the billionaires who have spent decades making people dumber through their think tanks and astroturfing.

Gay Horney posted:

literally you could have found a Dave rubin video and explained why it was stupid instead of just calling the dude stupid. i don't know who he is but if he hangs out with Jordan Peterson it shouldn't be that hard. if you're not willing to back up what you say then don't make a dozen posts about how correct and smart you are like it's self evident when clearly it isn't.

i had a written up a post with another video of rubin misusing mlk but i just deleted it to try to drop the issue.

here's the video anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGaUnLU_FeM

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 20:10 on May 12, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


yeah it is. mlk was saying he wanted a world where that was so - we aren;t in that world there is still institutional racism and systemic inequality. so it's dumb for rubin to quote it, he'd only have a point if we lived in a country where black and white people were economic and political equals.

and him and the right attack identity politics for the wrong reason - the actual issue is using identity politics divorced from economic justice (the "we need more women ceos!" type of politics that centrist/third way dems love). rubin et al hate it because it's pointing out how unequal our society is - while white identity politics is a-ok for them.

it doesn't even take five seconds of googling to realize how dumb it all is - it takes a second of thought.

and they all lie about the bret weinstein thing:

https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/993829303350710274

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 02:02 on May 13, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


that article explains it pretty well.

it boils down to another person thinking free speech means freedom from consequence of his speech.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 05:25 on May 13, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


barkbell posted:

okay read it. it doesnt explain why weinstein got a payout from the university, maybe it was published before then though. still kind of a confusing situation since, like the article said, all the videos and msm push the nutty protesters and people say wow the blacks were forcing white people off campus

because it's cheaper to settle than go through a trial.

and for beep:

https://twitter.com/alexkotch/status/995733453848154113

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 13, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


nathan robinson is the best. torched peterson and shapiro in their own articles.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


*says objectively true thing* "lol"

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Skip My Posts posted:

*guy who holds court on politics in the joe rogan thread* i have intimate knowledge of this confidential private settlement, for sure

i was obviously speaking in general (lol)

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


hot sauce posted:

Username checks out

Unfunny Poster posted:

You both suck rear end and should stop posting.

hot sauce posted:

Username checks out

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 17:22 on May 16, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Skip My Posts posted:

dont be mad you got called out for making up stuff lol. hey you guys see that 500 million dollar MSU settlement?

lol

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Ulio posted:

He did bust the Candace chicks balls who was spewing the same right wing rhetoric about global warming. Too bad Joe won't challenge any of his other right wing buddies who are bigger names when they talk out of their rear end. I just saw a clip of this episode, sounded like a typical Joe with ring wing pundit thing.

i think he called out crowder over weed (lol).

owens made joe look like a genius.

Skip My Posts posted:

Hey it’s the guy that makes up stuff with authority to feel important in the joe rogan thread

sorry you didn't understand my post and had to double down man.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jun 1, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


always be closing posted:

Rubin seemed pretty normal.

hot sauce posted:

I haven’t listened to the episode or know who that guy...the context is probably 3 hours of discussion unrelated to those quotes.

lolll

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


lol

https://twitter.com/thejd800/status/1007394881348571136

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


that's fine you're just very very wrong and earned my lol.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


you really need to put down the shovel.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


An Apple A Gay posted:

jordan peterson is coming back next week

i wish joe had more actual good guests and not insane people on. i just listened to the matt taibbi one which was good (but lol had joe talking about his nootropics at the beginning). joe is very dumb.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jun 29, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


The_Rob posted:

I watched the Rogan clip of him calling Peterson out on the incel comments and man Peterson is supposed to be an intellectual and he's getting out talked the entire clip. By loving joe Rogan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlnQ1SFr2HE

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


it's stupid to have never considered the most obvious response to your stance.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Gonzo McFee posted:

I think that's Peterson's greatest trick. He's got such a faux intellectual streak about him that if you try to engage with him on that level or take what he's implying heavily and quote it back to him he'll obfuscate and say you're misinterpreting him. You just level basic criticism at him and he's hosed because he hasn't thought any of this poo poo out, he just doesn't like trans people or the idea a woman will talk back to him.

dude denies global warming lol

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


hot sauce posted:

I’m not really a fan of his at all. You realize it’s possible to make fun of one thing and also not be for the other thing, right?

you didn't why the video was funny.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


hot sauce posted:

I didn’t why the video was funny?

didn't get why, sorry.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


toggle posted:

Can someone explain to me who Jordan Peterson is? Should I be aware of who he is? Should I care? Is he important? Is he part of the 4 stroke gang?

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


what i never got is even if you agreed with shapiro, rubin, and peterson they all have really annoying voices. how could you stand listening to them.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Helical Nightmares posted:

Counterpoint: All of NPR radio.

npr has been taken over by the koches so not a great example.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Morphix posted:

i think it's more of a reference to the fresh air vocal fry voice esthetic of most of npr

yeah it's bad.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


yeah it's wgbh not npr.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


the atlantic had a pretty good article about her dumb diet.

quote:

“A terribly, terribly bad idea.”

Gilbert has done extensive research on how the trillions of microbes in our guts digest food, and the look on his face when I told him about the all-beef diet was unamused. He began rattling off the expected ramifications: “Your body would start to have severe dysregulation, within six months, of the majority of the processes that deal with metabolism; you would have no short-chain fatty acids in your cells; most of the by-products of gastrointestinal polysaccharide fermentation would shut down, so you wouldn’t be able to regulate your hormone levels; you’d enter into cardiac issues due to alterations in cell receptors; your microbiota would just be devastated.”

While much of the internet has been following this story in a somewhat snide way, Gilbert appeared genuinely concerned and saddened: “If she does not die of colon cancer or some other severe cardiometabolic disease, the life—I can’t imagine.”

...

Peterson told me it took several weeks for her to get used to the beef-only approach, and that the relief of her medical symptoms overpowers any sense of missing food. If even a tiny amount of anything else finds its way into her mouth, she will be ill, she says. This happened when she tried to eat an organic olive, and again recently when she was at a restaurant that put pepper on her steak.

“I was like, whatever, it’s just pepper,” she told me. Then she had a reaction that lasted three weeks and included joint pain, acne, and anxiety.

Apart from having to exist in a world where the possibility of pepper exposure looms, the only other social downside she notices is that she hates asking people to accommodate her diet. So she will usually eat before she goes to a dinner party, she told me, “but then I’ll go drink and enjoy the party.”

“Drink, as in, water?”

“I can also, strangely enough, tolerate vodka and bourbon.”

The idea that alcohol, one of the most well-documented toxic substances, is among the few things that Peterson’s body will tolerate may be illuminating. It implies that when it comes to dieting, the inherent properties of the substances ingested can be less important than the eater’s conceptualizations of them—as either tolerable or intolerable, good or bad. What’s actually therapeutic may be the act of elimination itself.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/08/the-peterson-family-meat-cleanse/567613/

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


the all meat or even the keto evangelists are dumb but it seems pretty dumb to say only get like 10 percent of your calories from meat. i don't know how i'd get enough protein to put on muscle if i didn't eat lots of chicken breasts.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Morphix posted:

It's 10% protein not calories.

even dumber.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


how am i to build muscle eating barely any of the macronutrient responsible for building muscle.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Morphix posted:

meh we all have our vices

smoking has been abnormal for decades it's not something most people pick up.

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