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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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System Metternich posted:

e: apparently the truck driver has booked it and is still on the loose, and the Tagesschau app just informed me that there've been at least 50 injured, gently caress :(

Now would be a good time to donate blood even if you're not O- or don't live near Berlin, blood stocks get depleted during holidays and this makes matters worse :(

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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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botany posted:

co driver is dead, suspect in custody

Sehr gut.

Wait there were two? And one was taken alive? Not what I'd have expected.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Sheik Yerbouti posted:

Berlingoon here. Kinda doesn't seem like the typical ISIS modus operandi if the guy just runs away and lets himself be caught by the police.

There's the possibility that he crashed into something causing the other guy to die and got injured himself and that screwed up the plans, then there's also the possibility that he was another suicidal nutcase inspired by earlier attacks but who hadn't thought things through. But those are usually lone wolves. It's also possible that he carjacked the truck and the dead guy in the cabin is an innocent victim, I mean you don't just rent a semi like the Bastille Day attacker did??

e: so the carjacking seems likely? in which case this took more planning than just hiring a lorry

Nenonen fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Dec 19, 2016

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Randarkman posted:

So it's possible it was a hijacking. I wouldn't say the proof is conclusive though.

True dat, thing just happened so this is just speculation. Hopefully the culprit was caught not just alive but also not injured so he can be interrogated soon.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Lunar Suite posted:

Ich trinke nicht. :smith:

Do you know who else didn't drink? That's right, Trump

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Torrannor posted:

The Bundesanwaltschaft just released a statement that the Pakistani guy is not the terrorist.

I hope the guy who stalked him from the Christmas market and called cops to catch him gets awarded a medal. Made of poo poo. So much police time wasted following a red herring while the killer is on loose...

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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System Metternich posted:

Welp, apparently it was a Tunisian and they're looking for him throughout the country now.

Otoh they only “know“ this because they found his asylum papers underneath the driver's seat, which sounds skeevy as hell to me. Why would the attacker even carry his papers with him? This is either the IS demonstrating that they managed to get one of their own into Germany as a refugee or someone trying to deflect the blame by putting in stolen papers as a red herring imo. Probably the former though :smith:

Or maybe just an honest mistake, things didn't go as planned and he panicked. Maybe he carried papers in case police came asking questions while he was looking for a Polish truck to hijack. He didn't expect to get away alive, but then after the crash lost his nerve and escaped, leaving some belongings to the truck. That would seem like a more natural explanation.

Or maybe the truck hit a Tunisian asylum seeker who was selling christmas trees and by some massive fluke his wallet flew through the broken windshield and slipped under the driver's seat...

But yeah, theories are theories, let's hope the person is found soon whoever he really is.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Flayer posted:

I would suppose then that the Polish driver was being held hostage and forced to drive to the location and once he got there and realised the intent tried to fight back and was unfortunately killed. Driving a big truck like that requires a certain level of skill which the assailant may not have had.

Can't think of any other reason the Polish driver would have been alive and in the truck during the attack.

I'm not exactly confident in anything the German police have to say at this point though, considering it apparently took them this long to look under the drivers seat. Another super obvious clue might become apparent at any time eg the asylum papers being fake or something.

The Polish man wasn't alive during the attack. He was found shot in the passenger seat, I don't know if you have ever tried to move a dead 120kg trucker body around in a truck cabin but I can tell you it ain't easy. Someone would surely have noticed if it had happened near the market.

We also don't know when the police found the papers. All we know is that they released the information today. Here's some factors to consider:

- looking through a cramped truck cabin for evidence is a slow job because only one man will fit in from either side, and any fiber or stain could be evidence and after a crash there'd also be lots of debris to sort through - it isn't like searching for lost car keys under your sofa

- once the papers were found the police still had to check if the name and photo are authentic (there's news that he was using "at least two" false identities)

- once the name was determined there's still the possibility that the police didn't want to immediately release it to the public to not alert the terrorist

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Smirr posted:

One hot take I've seen in the comments sections about the papers is that they were deliberately planted there, because it was a false flag attack, orchestrated by... you guessed it, Russia.

It was Putin's retaliation to the NATO false flag attack against Russian ambassador

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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It's high time to send all those illegal asylum seekers residing in Florida back to Cuba!

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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You silly Krauts with your crazy sausages that contain more pork than is absolutely required to make it inedible for vegans, muslims and other undesirable demographic groups! 5% meat 95% flour ought to be enough.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Cingulate posted:

Ok here's a super stupid question.

Can we simply build a dam along the north and east sea coasts to keep off climate change induced flooding of the good part of Germany?

AfD has a better plan ready

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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They're not even trying to hide that they are spying on the chancellor of Germany more than Stasi ever.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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frankenfreak posted:

the precedent is painter -> chancellor though

Just think... Hitler came from Austria, literally East Realm, then became the chancellor of the (western) Germany. Merkel came from literally East Germany, then became the chancellor of the (western) Germany. Hitler had one ball, Merkel has none. There are anecdotes about both of them and dogs. Coincidence???

Anyway, welcome to the Social Democratic club! At the current trend all of Europe will be SD led in a year or two. Except for UK which will go even deeper down the Tory rabbit hole...

Nenonen fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Sep 27, 2021

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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There's different philosophies at work. Some believe that Russia stomping its neighbours like a bull in a chinastore brings further instability and insecurity to the rest of Europe, so intervening in the form of a threat of sanctions and propping up the underdog would reduce the risk of things going bad.

The opposing view is that it's none of our business or something that can be helped with, better isolate instead of getting our nose deep into people's businesses and possibly escalating things by our presence.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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GABA ghoul posted:

It's called The Netherlands

Wasn't that Michael Jackson's pedo ranch's name?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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cant cook creole bream posted:

Germansplaining is a fine word.
So was the international stuff around the forties Germanspreading?

Göring at least was a Hermannspreader.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Goa Tse-tung posted:

we gonna have four days of 30+ here, best summer ever


https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1557272800364216320

dunno how that tweet got there, im trying to remove it

This is good news for Germany's climate goals. First no natural gas because war, next coal plants can't get coal via Rhine because climate change. Nature is healing!

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

This title is loving up my mobile browsing



God damnit mods

Wunderbar!

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Half of the ice hockey world championship final between Canada and Germany has now been played and the score is 1-1. Latvia already won USA in the bronze game. Don't let us down Krauts! :argh:

edit: GERMANY LEADS

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Donnerwetter

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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aphid_licker posted:

Bouncing dat T-34 shell at 550m still can't have been fun

Many would pay for the chance to be shot at by a cannon while they're inside an unpenetrable box, probably. As long as it really is unpenetrable/unspalleable...

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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There are people who pay good money to be able to die on the Everest or on trip to see the Titanic. Just saying that there's a business idea here as well.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Incidentally today I learned that when after the war the East German factories started making cars in Eisenach under the BMW brand like before and the actual BMW protested, the easterners complied, renaming it EMW and...

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Hopper posted:

Is it just me or is using the word "Volk" on a sign or banner a surefire sign someone needs to be locked up for being a Nazi?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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spankmeister posted:

Ossi armee had those goofy helmets lol

The funny thing is that it was designed by Nazis during WW2 to replace the more expensive Stahlhelm, but apparently Hitler as a WW1 veteran hated it because it didn't wasn't similar enough to the old Stahlhelm and also had a bit similar shape with the Soviet helmet. But for NVA it was just perfect because of those things.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Wokismusheit

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Tarquinn posted:

Germany Thread: Do Germans poo poo in the woods??

Is the Pope German?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Eezee posted:

We will always be on the wrong side of history. That's just German nature.

Even during the cold war!

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Antigravitas posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw_BHbCwbUQ

Was hat der Lauterbach mir da ins Gras gemischt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsdmqtuPEZE

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Maybe they should be hiring Arabic speaking cops, or at least interpreters, to make sure that no one says anything naughty?

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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Libluini posted:

He should have brought weed

And worn a fez.

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