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What the gently caress, I got a letter from Rainer Brüderle today. It's partly "Germany owns", partly "the FDP is responsible for that". There's also a postcard asking you to become a "DialogPartner" of the FDP-Bundestagsfraktion. what the hell Does that rear end in a top hat have too much money? It's not even election season.
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Sereri posted:Thanks to the Bundesländer it's always election season somewhere. And even if not, there's a Bundestags election next september. The FDP has it's back against the wall, current polls show them below the 5% threshold. Well, my Land voted last year so that's probably not it. He must be getting really desperate if he starts sending out unsolicited "we're the greatest" poo poo 10 months before the election. Kind of... hilarious. 
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Just a minor nitpick, but pictures of Hitler actually do fall under the umbrella of §86a StGB. Here's just one link, about someone distributing postcards with pictures of Hitler on them, which he was fined for. The relevant part:quote:Nach heute einhelliger Rechtsprechung (BGH a.a.O.; BGHSt 28, 394/396; OLG Schleswig MDR 1978, 333; OLG Celle NJW 1991, 1497; OLG Rostock NStZ 2002, 320), der sich der Senat anschließt, stellt auch das Kopfbild Adolf Hitlers ein verfassungswidriges Kennzeichen im Sinne des § 86a StGB dar. Dabei kommt es nicht darauf an, ob Hitler als Führer der NSDAP, als Reichskanzler oder als Staatsoberhaupt dargestellt wird (BGHSt 28, 394/396). Es ist ferner unerheblich, ob auf der Abbildung zusätzlich ein Hakenkreuz, das Hauptkennzeichen der NSDAP (BGHSt 28, 394/395), oder ein zum „Deutschen Gruß” erhobener Arm zu sehen sind. I also (mis)remembered a case from a couple of years ago here in Berlin where someone was chilling in a park wearing a shirt with a picture of Hitler's face on it, which got the police called on him (who thoroughly mishandled the case when they told the nazis who it was that called them, which lead to the nazis attacking them after the police left without doing anything). But it turns out the shirt also had "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer" on it, and that's already enough to be illegal anyhow. Here's a summary of that.
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Nov 11, 2012 19:22
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The V-Personen clusterfuck is also a nice blast from the past, because when the government tried to outlaw the far-right NPD about ten years back the case was dropped when it came to light that there were V-Personen in all levels of the party, up to and including in the very leadership. That made it impossible to say whether all the unconstitutional stuff they said and did had, in fact, been said and done by people that were on the payroll of the Office for the Protection of the Constitution.  The whole NSU thing is just too depressing for words. I hadn't heard about it affecting the Netherlands too, but it really wouldn't surprise me if that's true.
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Nov 13, 2012 17:57
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That's the absolute best part. The Verfassungsschutz is literally handing money to nazis (in my imagination, they do that with big ol' sacks with Euro signs on them) in the hopes that they will a) leak information which b) isn't made-up bullshit. It's just great.
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Nov 13, 2012 19:53
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How in the gently caress does the FDP get ~9,5% anywhere in the year of our Lord 2013? 10% even. What in the gently caress. What the hell is wrong with Lower Saxony?
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 From Slate. Just amazing. I mean, that talking point is now out there. It will never, ever be corrected.
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Feb 8, 2013 14:03
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Landsknecht posted:24h Kaisers Schönhauser Allee, right? That store is great. A friend of mine who lives near there keeps taunting me about it, though - there's nothing like that anywhere near here.  Well, except a million billion Spätis, so I guess the point is moot. Actually, with the way the Ordnungsamt enforces the Sunday thing, it's all moot. Like when it cracked down on the stores in Hauptbahnhof that sold stuff in non-travel-appropriate sizes on Sundays, you could just go one station east and do all your shopping in the Edeka at Friedrichstraße. Or at Ostbahnhof. Similarly, they cracked down on exactly one Späti here, while the rest of them 50 m down the street stayed open 24/7, and it went back to opening on Sundays about two weeks later. It's all just really dumb.
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Feb 12, 2013 19:57
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midnightclimax posted:I never realized shopping after 6 pm is such an existential need. The existential need is not having the man tell you what you can and can't do. Vote Ron Paul 2013 Also, give Ron Paul German citizenship
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  You just know that if Ratzinger was still pope, he'd be on there too. Remember the neurotic way national pride was discussed during the 2006 World Cup? Could we maybe go back to that?
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When I heard they were going to hold the NSU trial in Munich, my immediate reaction was "oh gently caress", though I could not articulate why. When I read that Tanal complained about the crucifix in the courtroom, I remembered why: because Bavaria should stop hemming and hawing and just gently caress off to Austria forever. I'm as German as they come, I was baptized and confirmed (Protestant), but the idea of having crucifixes in courtrooms and in schools and in basically every public building is still so alien to me that I don't even know where to start. Except to tell Bavaria to gently caress off to Austria, which doesn't even make sense. Really the least they could have done was to take it down for this one trial. But nope, mia san mia! How hard could it be to realize that this is a very important trial reaching beyond Germany, especially after the whole accreditation thing, and to just accept that the rest of the world (and Germany, I might add) works differently?
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May 9, 2013 01:35
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Kurtofan posted:Can I have a translation? Yes, Horst Tappert was in the Waffen-SS. What exactly he did there is still unclear. The question they asked is: "Is Derrick still acceptable on TV?" The answers are, in the order they appear: Yes, not every member of the Waffen-SS was a criminal. Yes, the series is part of German cultural heritage regardless. No, former members of the Waffen-SS don't belong on TV. No, until his role in the war has been cleared up, no further episodes should be broadcast. e: komm du mir nach hause, Perestroika 
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ArchangeI posted:They literally have Stefan Raab moderating the debate. And people wonder why no one is taking politics seriously anymore. I think the politicians are doing a good enough job of ensuring no one takes them seriously by themselves. Dressing up this shitshow of canned answers in particular and these non-elections in general can't hurt. Plus, Raab is actually getting Merkel a little pissed off! e:  Steinbrück is tanking on the Europe question. "I think it's good and right of the SPD that they supported the majority of our decisions" -- Merkel. That was a really good attack there, Peer.
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I think Steinbrück's "telling it like it is, politeness be damned" shtick is starting to morph into "do I look like I give a poo poo?". Also foreshadowing, but still. If the election weren't already mostly decided, he'd be bottling it right now.
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This is my 'favorite' Piraten poster: If this was a deep-cover parody, you'd never know. I mean, at least it's a specific issue, but you'd think they could have put someone on the poster who doesn't look like he's going to use the new digital infrastructure to post biotruths on reddit. Also,  I don't know how much play this got outside of Berlin, but this guy was criticized by Charlotte Knobloch for wearing a keffiyeh inside the parliament of Berlin, and as a reaction he started wearing that Star of David in addition to it. Apparently he's still running with that. I guess that's gotta count as some kind of conviction.
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KaneTW posted:You have some very weird standards as to how a person should look. You're right, I let my dislike of the Piraten color that statement. I walked past that poster earlier today after making that post, and realized he really doesn't fit my description at all. I still think, however, that the kind of petulant tone of the question on the poster doesn't do them any favors.
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KaneTW posted:Why can't there be parties with sane opinions regarding nuclear energy. Well, there is the BüSo. I mean, they are insane about pretty much everything else, but... My polling place this year was basically 3 m² away from being a utility closet. Merkel's Germany #smh
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quote:Bundesland Bayern Wahlkreis 227 - Deggendorf Come on, you guys. Stop trolling.
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frankenfreak posted:While there was a movement to the smaller parties in 2009, the FDP also ran a clever campaign, telling people that a vote for the FDP is the only way to get rid of the unpopular Grand Coalition and keep Merkel. That, plus I think their long (by their standards) stint in the opposition didn't help them either. Instead of being the party that (allegedly) keeps the CDU/SPD from eating small business alive on a day to day basis, all of a sudden they started being very heavy on the social/civil liberties, sort of like a more established Piraten. There was stuff like the Vorratsdatenspeicherung law in 2007 where the FDP voted against it alongside Die Linke and the Greens, or the JuLis pushing for legalization of marijuana, and a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting right now that led to the situation in 2009 where a couple of otherwise normal people I know strongly considered voting for the FDP (but went with the Piraten in the end). Of course when they got back into the government, it turned out that they don't actually give too much of a poo poo about any of that stuff, or are too powerless vis à vis the CDU to do anything about it. That disappointment alone probably wasn't enough to kill them, but others have already mentioned other factors. fake edit: oh my God, there's a guy in a Ron Paul shirt in the audience on Günther Jauch's show. Töte deine Eltern.
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parrhesia posted:Also, Merkel seems reasonably happy with the result:  "Go hog wild? Don't mind if I do!"
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weavernaut posted:Looks like I won't have to nag my partner to flee to Canada this election cycle! It's the SPD that won't go in for a red-red(-green) coalition on the federal level, not die Linke. It's to my mind probably the biggest failing of the federal SPD. There are a lot more failings though, so gently caress 'em. I don't know if any of you guys are watching the district (Wahlkreis) results come in, but one of the most noticeable things is that die Linke is getting loving skinned with respect to first votes. They have so far managed to carry one (1) district, and that is Treptow-Köpenick, which is Gysi's district. I've lost count how many they've lost to the CDU by now, but it's got to be like 15. There's a lot of flipping to the CDU going on in general, but this is kind of unexpected. Oh wait, Marzahn-Hellersdorf and Pankow just came in and didn't flip either. So that's three direct candidates for die Linke now, compared to 16 in 2009.
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Amused to Death posted:Well, France is basically the only country in the past year or so that hasn't had the right win their elections.(Well, and America, but left wing is relative). You can't escape the rising tide of the right wing. On the other hand France has had these chucklefucks pull off huge demonstrations in opposition to same-sex marriage, and this lady get 17.9% in the presidential elections last year, so while the right might not be winning elections just yet, it's not exactly a leftist country either. But I don't think anyone needs to move away from Germany because of this election just yet anyway. Our collective Merkel boner is starting to get a little frightening, but if you've been able to live here these past 8 years, I think you'll be fine. Just wait until it comes out that Merkel has been plagiarizing her pantsuits or something, I don't know.
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ArchangeI posted:A red-red-green coalition would be the most transparent "anyone but Merkel" coalition imaginable and would shatter at the first test, whatever that may be. The greens are always volatile and Die Linke enjoyed their hardcore opposition stance far too much. Blaming the SPD for not wanting to form a coalition with a margin of three votes where they have the option of either surrendering completely to the most radical of partners or look like complete chumps when their government collapses after six months is stupid, sorry. Just to be clear, when I was bitching about the SPD about refusing coalitions with die Linke I wasn't talking about this specific outcome, where it really would be suicide to go for red-red-green, I was talking about their stance in general. Now that all of the results are in, we can play a game. Take a guess which districts had a comparatively strong showing for the FDP (second votes), and then check your guesses against the answers: Düsseldorf I, 9,2% Main-Taunus, 8,6%. Which is, coincidentally I'm sure, the setting of this article Bonn, 8,5% Various districts in Munich and Munich-Land, 8,2%-8,5% Rhein-Sieg-Kreis II, around Bonn, 8,3% Stuttgart I, 8,3% Cologne II, 8,1% EAT THE RICH Let's just sell off all those places to Luxembourg and start over as a country.
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I'm going to need some help understanding a mathematical thing about voting participation. Let's boil it down to a very specific example, although my problem is more general: My voting district, Berlin-Neukölln, has an overall voting participation of 68,5% (140.803 out of 205.629 eligible voters). Yet I can't find a single Wahllokal whose individual participation is anywhere even close to that number. Take a look at this map: http://berlinwahlkarte2013.morgenpost.de/ . If you click on "Viele Wähler" on the bottom, you'll get the 25 Wahllokale with the highest participation, one of which is in Neukölln (center south). It's number is 62,8%. Most places in Neukölln are around 50%. Then how does the overall number even work? If most Wahllokale are hovering around 50% participation and a select few go as high as 62,8%, then surely the overall number should be somewhere between those numbers, right? Or am I missing something?
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Oooh, you two are very likely right. I didn't think of Briefwahl.
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System Metternich posted:This tool is fascinating, thanks for that! Do you know what's up with central Marzahn? Literally all of the ten best NPD districts are clustered there. And That NPD stronghold is Hellersdorf, actually. A friend of mine is from there, and according to her there's quite simply a shitload of Nazis there. Sometimes it's as easy as that. And the MLPD district in Neukölln has me  ing as well. The weirdest part is that the direct candidate of the MLPD got 0 votes there. He's literally the only direct candidate who got no votes in that district. I've been down there more often than I like, and believe me, there aren't actually that many potential MLPD voters there. If I had to guess, I'd say some people decided that it would be hilarious if they all voted MLPD. No idea what they did with their first vote though.
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I'd go so far to say that religion isn't important in politics at all (exception: the Muslim menace, obviously). Some of the parties sort of line up with confessions (the CSU is largely but not exclusively Catholic, the Linke is largely but not exclusively Nothing, the Partei Bibeltreuer Christen is actually exclusively Evangelical), but for the most part people don't vote for party X because they are of religion Y. Although come to think of it, a friend of mine often tells horror stories about her home, which is basically the northernmost stronghold of Catholicism, and the CDU usually gets 60+% of the vote there. There have to be other factors, but the way she tells it, religion is the biggest. Taking Germany as a whole though, that sort of thing isn't common enough to really influence party positions by much. I can only think of a couple of recent cases where the two state churches got involved in politics directly: the question of whether businesses should be allowed to open on Sundays, where the churches side with unions, and the question here in Berlin whether schools should go from mandatory ethics classes alongside optional religion classes to a mandatory choice of ethics OR religion class, i.e. you pick only one. That proposed change was supported by almost every church under the sun, Christian or not, but when it was put to a plebiscite it a) failed to reach its quorum and b) was voted against anyway. So Berlin continues to be a socialist hellhole where students of different backgrounds are forced to talk to each other about ethics. Which is awesome. There was one more thing where religion played a role, but there the state churches didn't get involved: that Swabian family that kept homeschooling their kids, kept getting punished for it since homeschooling is illegal in Germany, and then applied for asylum in the US on the grounds of religious persecution, which was granted. I just now found out that that ruling was overturned earlier this year and they won't be getting asylum after all . Anyway, the established churches didn't get involved in that because a) they don't really have a problem with what is taught in schools and b) even if they did, they'd try voicing that displeasure through the established channels, i.e. lobbying, instead of by breaking the law. Come to think of it, there were a couple of Jehova's Witnesses in my very godless Berlin schools, and they just got a waiver from their parents that exempted them from sex ed, so concessions to religious people already exist to ensure their kids go to school. If you can't work within that framework then yeah, have fun in your dinosaurs-on-the-Ark-themed museums in Bumfuck, Nebraska, I guess.That's about it for religion in politics, off the top of my head. As you've already mentioned, the two state churches also run quite a few charitable services, but since they don't care whether you're a member of their church, let alone Christian, I see that more as an example of Good Churching and less of Germany being a Christian nation (it really isn't).
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The CDU poster killed me IRL and the Partei poster revived me, but what is even the deal with the REP poster? Like, do they want foreigners to blow on the turbines?
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Wow, life imitates art: http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/114-tag-im-nsu-prozess-in-muenchen-streit-um-bekleidung-des-angeklagten-andre-e-/9927790.html Tagesspiegel posted:Militärisch anmutende Cargohosen, Kapuzenpullis, schwarze Lederweste – das Outfit des Angeklagten im NSU-Prozess signalisiert einen Hang zum rockerhaften Machogehabe. Am Mittwoch setzte André E. im Saal 101 des Oberlandesgerichts München noch eins drauf. 
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He doesn't sound Saxon to me at all for what it's worth. Should be able to fleece us pretty good, I remember seeing that guy on German TV a couple of times so there's probably a bunch of grandmas already smitten with him.
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RIP Blacky Fuchsberger Phwoar, what a collection
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Holy poo poo, AdD types are going to be insufferable now. 10% in thuringia, just slightly weaker than the SPD, 12 loving percent in Brandenburg. Come the gently caress on, people
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This is really trivial, local stuff, but I got at good laugh out of it: http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/mall-of-berlin-eroeffnet-berliner-erkunden-neue-mall-am-leipziger-platz/10750730.html quote:Am Abend zuvor war da schon etwas mehr Betrieb. Da wurde mit tausenden geladenen Gästen vorgefeiert, unter anderem mit Klaus Wowereit. I wonder how many people's heads exploded when he said that. That joke has to have a body count.
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Torrannor posted:So how long until Ursula loses her job? And will the CDU/CSU lose any support with the voters as would be appropriate, since the Minister of Defense has been from either the CDU or CSU since 2005? Funny you should mention that - I was binge-reading Franz Josef Wagner's column earlier today, and are you open-minded enough to consider that quote:Liebe Ursula von der Leyen, ?
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I started looking up which countries would get to keep their governments if only Bundesregierungen were deposed, but it turns out I'm too lazy. The guy is certainly not making a very well thought through demand, though.
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So what's the Austrian government done lately that has Hans Asperger in the video all up in arms? Because if he's just veiledly ranting against the German government only (which seems likely given that his youtube user picture is of the Bundestag)... well, I don't want to live in a world where Austrian weirdos become really preoccupied with German politics.
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Randler posted:I would have expected somebody with the name Asperger to be detail fixated enough to notice that the Bundesregierung cannot resign on its own. I was joking. See, the guy's from Austria and seems to have Asperger's, and Hans Asperger was Austrian, therefore funny joke, much merriment. His real name is probably Alois Bergfickerl or something like that
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Riso posted:Clearly, what he needs is a few years of hard labour to get different ideas. No one's going to believe me, but before I even read your post I was going to make a joke (  ) about how we should introduce Stalin-style banishment to Siberia, except we can't use Siberia for obvious reasons, so let's go with the second most inhospitable shithole, namely Austria instead. Now it just reads like a cheap shot. Anyway, let's do that.
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Riso posted:Excuse me? Austria is not inhospitable. The Poles don't like us very much for some reason. I doubt they'd be willing to take our pedophiles and/or politicians off our hands. Honj Steak posted:Yay, rich german Nazis. Hahaha, literally "bah humbug" in real life. Also when I just googled the guy to find out where he's originally from I saw that Junge Freiheit and PI are already putting him on a pedestal. I mean obviously a good part of his spiel is right down their alley, but come on, "Neger", "gently caress Christmas", "My Turkish employees would be living off Stütze if I didn't employ them" (i.e. not even pretending that there are any good ones) surely goes a little far even for them (well Junge Freiheit at least, PI are pretty irredeemable come to think of it).
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GaussianCopula posted:but in the case of Winfried Stöcker thats not the case. He escaped the socialist regime in the DDR and started a new life in the free/capitalist BRD, where he built his company from scratch. Do you have a source you could cite that he's from East Germany? That's what I tried to find out when I googled him, but I couldn't find anything. My thinking was that it'd be extra funny if the guy going "Weihnachten ist Firlefanz" is actually a carpetbagger (  ) from the blackest depths of, say, Swabia.
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