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Devian666 posted:I have added the Airport express to the OP for it's niche purposes. It wouldn't have previously met the minimum bar to go in op but why make all networking difficult. FYI / anecdotal experience, the Airport Express is great for a tiny city apartment situation where you're in a studio/1 bedroom and you do most of your surfing in one spot, preferably in the same room (or at least adjacent to) as the AX. Do NOT expect it to reach your attic from your basement. Its transmit power is lower than that of its big brother, the Airport Extreme Base Station. Whether by design or not, that's the reality. Its range is probably better than its predecessor, the 802.11g model, but not by much. If the power cord is too short for where you want to place the AX, you can just buy a standard figure 8 power cord that's longer.. Monoprice has a 10 ft. cord for only 2 bucks. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 27, 2012 |
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Eh, stay away from these things, you should get one free with a tank of gas. They might help a desktop PCIE card if they have an antenna port but in practice I've found they suck for anything other than in-house reception. In my anecdotal experience most of the people who make these generic antennas skimp on something, either they use a cheap / weak ceramic magnet for the base, make the antenna from something too bendy, or make the pigtail (the wire that runs out of the antenna) from standard wiring and not special low-signal-loss cabling, making the antenna perform worse than it should. Fake Edit: I used to use these and other antennas on older Airport Extremes which did have a dedicated antenna port, but I found that it was best for me to find a good low-loss cable supplier and make my own pigtails and crimp my own MCX cable ends on them and attach them to the antennas while throwing away the vendor supplied pigtail. Every commercial antenna I purchased a while ago, including some of the older Hawking antennas, were poo poo. With Ubiquitis and good directionals available now, why even bother. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Aug 10, 2012 |
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I've set up a few Motorola 6121's (a smaller, more compact but just as good version) and I'd imagine the 6120 is the same. Forget Cisco/Linksys, IMHO they treat all their non-professional equipment like commodity garbage; either it overheats and blows up within 6-12 months or the power supply does.
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Farecoal posted:That reminds me, is Clear/Clearwire considered a lovely ISP? My dad got into a two-year contract with them and doesn't want to pay the termination fees. They are a gigantically lovely ISP. They're owned by Sprint and get treated like a redheaded stepchild because the industry here in the US is abandoning WiMAX. I'm using them right now in Sunset Park; I have 32 neighbors (You can see how many people are competing for the signal thanks to a web page built into the hotspot, right down to their MAC addresses) and my throughput rarely makes it above 1.1 Mbps down, maybe at 3-5 am I might get that. And I had to build a special homebrew parabolic antenna made out of soup cans to put my now outdated hotspot in just to get my RSSI to -70db! Without it it's -80 to 85. And I'm only 3-4 blocks from the nearest tower! They supposedly stopped selling in my neighborhood via the website, but all the grimy little local Clear affiliates, some of whom are little more than a lucite box on top of a shopping cart, don't seem to have any qualms about selling dongles and hotspots right here in the hood though. Their dealers (actual storefronts that sell ONLY Clear equipment) are fantastically friendly right up until they sell you the contract; after that it's CLEAR out, get the gently caress out of my sight! Want to upgrade your hotspot? Here's what the dealer says: Call the 1-800 number to have them tell you you get no discount and have to pay full price for a new one! Want to get your hotspot repaired? Dealer says just call the 1-800 number to handle it. Why the hell do these dealers even exist? Clear dealers are like the exact opposite of Apple Stores, they refuse to do anything other than sell you a plan, even if you get defective equipment the dealer says call the 1-800 number. Their hotspots are custom made in Korea and run some kind of open source networking; they project a WiFi network that barely makes it six feet from the window without dropping at least a bar to my MacBook. Also, try to use more than one device at a time and watch speeds for both devices go into the basement. If their standard 4G hotspot is this bad, I shudder to think of what their home WiMax modems are like. Their only advantage IMHO is that they don't do a credit check on you. They're like a ghetto Verizon in that sense. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Nov 13, 2012 |
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Mutar posted:EDIT: According to Lenovo I have the only version of the driver for wireless adapter. poo poo. Now what? Don't listen to Lenovo, use one of those utilities that tells you what chipset and model number your wireless is.. as far as I can tell it uses a RealTek wireless controller. Once you get the model number, if it's a RealTek just go to http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/ and find the latest for your chipset/OS. It SHOULD be more up-to-date at least than what's on Leonovo's site. Also, I'd put all the Apple laptops/devices that can do 5 GHz on the 5 GHz channel and everything else on the 2.4 GHz channel, the network should feel much peppier on the 5 GHz side. KingKapalone posted:How does this D-Link compare to some of the routers in the OP? It's $60 on Newegg today. I don't know of any other router deals right now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-33127215-L015A Skimmed over some of the reviews, it tends to get very hot, which means a lower lifespan; also not DD-WRT flashable and it's only 2.4 GHz. I agree with Devian666, I'd rather get the 3500v2 if it were a choice between the two, I see it for just $64 on Amazon. 3500 also has a honking fast 480 MHz CPU and 128 MB RAM, perfect for the onboard gigabit ethernet. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Nov 20, 2012 |
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I was looking at the retail packaging for the NT-56u and it says it's got software capable of detecting an iOS device like an iPad or iPhone on the USB port, when it does it sends enough power to the port Evidently this is also available as a software patch on their PCs as well.. Interesting, I doubt I ever would want to charge my iPod on my router but it's nice to know I can if I want to..
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saintonan posted:Can someone explain the differences between the Asus RT-N66U in the OP and the RT-AC66U here? The price difference doesn't bother me, should I get the extra features of the newer model or instead get the older model that has a good history of reliability? What everyone else said, plus smallnetbuilder.com says the AC-66U is still going through growing pains, its firmware is getting updated pretty often at this juncture. It benchmarks just a hair or so below the N66U so I would wait until the firmware matures and get the N66U. Also, unless all your equipment has 3X3 MIMO antennae configs, it's not really worth it. For most home situations, unless you have a palatial estate, the RT-56U does a lot of what the 66 does for  less. It has three (internal chip-based) antennas for the 5 GHz network and two for the 2.4 GHz network, a 500 MHz Ralink-based CPU and dedicated hardware for NAT. The only thing it wont do is DD-WRT but I find as long as you stick to the 1.0.1.8 firmware it's fast enough for the job.
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Tell dad to junk his cordless phone or switch your equipment to the 5 GHz band, which I bet doesn't get affected because he probably has a 2.4 GHz cordless.
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If your laptop was 802.11n capable you could just create a 5 GHz network and be done with it. Is it?
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Right, it's possible to have a device that's 802.11n and that only works on 2.4 GHz, a lot of cheaper routers are like that. But these days, most laptops usually come with dual band NICs. Definitely not all of them (unless they're shipping Macs) but it's more likely to get 5 GHz capable hardware on your client than not.
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The E4200 v2 is based on a Marvell chipset instead of a Broadcom chipset; the Marvell is clocked at 1.2 GHz and the Broadcom in the V1 model was running at 480 MHz. The Apple Airport Extreme uses a similar chip and they're touted as being pretty solid. The V2 has 128 MB of Flash and 128 MB of RAM so it should easily be able to handle the rigors of a simultaneous dual band network with lots of devices hooked up. SmallNetBuilder gave it a 3.5 rating and said it was as good as the V1, although reviews claim it gets pretty hot, once again a hallmark of most Linksys products. Does Linksys really think their routers will only be used in refrigerated data centers or something? Only caveat is that you'll have to live with whatever Linksys shills out for firmware as it is not DD-WRT or Tomato flash able. On top of that, some people really don't like the Cisco Cloud Connect firmware for this router, which is the latest revision offered, because of three things: 1 - it actually asks you during setup whether or not you plan on doing porn or piracy on the router 2 - many advanced features were removed from the firmware that were available on the previous versions 3 - the CCC firmware is capable of allowing Cisco to tap in and track your activity If other goons step up and say they like it and it never gave 'em any problems, it might be a good buy as you can always opt not to install the CCC firmware, Linksys themselves outlined in their knowledge base how to downgrade the firmware to the previous non-judging version if yours shipped with the offending version. Edit: corrected the link Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Jan 2, 2013 |
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Tomato and DD-WRT incompatibility isn't a dealbreaker unless you're one of those guys who has to tweak every single modifiable aspect of their network, or need some feature that the stock firmware doesn't offer; for basic surfing and gaming the standard firmware should be more than enough. Also, I don't believe the OP list of routers was compiled in the spirit of 'Only use these routers everything else sucks' but rather 'try these, they should be cool.' It's a work in progress and there's some routers I think should be in there (the RT-N56U since it's only $110 street price and the previous incarnation of the RT-N66U) but it's a good starting point.
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Ninja Rope posted:I just looked that up and apparently they consider your use of your router a "service" provided by them and require you to click through an agreement stating you won't use the "service" for pornography? That is loving amazing. Sorry if this is old news to everyone else but I didn't know quite how hosed up the CCC poo poo was. It's just one of the issues that are slowly making Cisco-Linksys a bad vendor for consumer-level routers. All the other vendors like Asus, D-Link, TP-Link, etc. are striving for quality in their firmware and constantly improving it, whereas C-L is trying to find ways to 'lock in' their customers with silly poo poo. If you do a search, you will find Cisco has carefully removed all mention of 'Cisco Cloud Connect' at the consumer level on their website. You can still find mentions of it in their Enterprise section but they got the message loud and clear from the consumers. Incredibly, you had to sign up to CCC just to get access to your own router. No account, no access. And if Cisco thought you were being naughty while they monitored you, they had the legal right to yank you off the internet. More info here: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/132142-ciscos-cloud-vision-mandatory-monetized-and-killed-at-their-discretion http://www.zdnet.com/cisco-connect-cloud-chaos-7000000282/
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If it's anyone except Linksys themselves, refurbs = returned poo poo repackaged in generic white box. And even then, I doubt Linksys would even pay anyone to add a heatsink / replace the CPU / replace the board. They'd hook it up to some test machine, if it passes they repackage, if not it gets sold in some huge lot to someone else who will stamp the word refurbished on them. My anecdotal experience with refurbs, even ones sold by original vendors, even the WRT54Gs sold by T-mobile have proven this to me, at least.
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Yeah, for example, the $25 router mentioned in the OP is still a good price, less than $25. However, user reviews indicate this Monoprice model usually dies after about a year. It also isn't compatible with DD-WRT, Tomato, or any other alternative firmware. But for less than an average meal for two at Applebees, you get a dual band wireless router with swappable antennas. It's definitely not good enough for the typical goon who demands control over every single aspect of his connection, or who needs a high-availability mission critical connection, but it's great for someone who wants basic set-it-and-forget-it internet access, and only needs it when they come home from work or over the weekend. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jan 17, 2013 |
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 Linksys SOLD to Belkin, Cisco gets out of consumer market http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/01/24/belkin-helps-cisco-exit-consumer-space-by-acquiring-its-home-networking-division-including-linksys/ TheNextWeb posted:Belkin on Thursday announced plans to acquire Cisco’s Home Networking Business Unit, including its products, technology, employees, and even the well-known Linksys brand. Belkin says it plans to maintain the Linksys brand and will offer support for Linksys products as part of the transaction, financial details for which were not disclosed. Well, that's what happens when you piss off customers by making them sign onerous agreements just to control their own routers. They just didn't know what they were doing.
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TheEye posted:How do people feel about the ASUS RT-N56U? I see it come up a lot but it's not in the OP, so I'm curious. Is it worth the extra $35 over the RT-N16? I don't really need dual band right now, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'd want to have it in a year or two. I think it's great, installed it for more than a dozen clients and none of them complains, ever. Here's smallnetbuilder's review. Its routing performance is just a hair less than a WNDR4000. I think it's a hidden gem and great if you want top of the line wired connections as well- it's one of the few routers I know with Gigabit Ethernet that supports jumbo frames. And on top of that, it has hardware NAT. Its only caveats IMHO are that it can't be flashed to DD-WRT or Tomato and that its port forwarding options are limited.
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TheEye posted:Yep, I actually bought it and set it up since that post. It's great so far. Just out of curiousity, did it come with the latest firmware v.3.0.0.4.334, or 1.0.1.8n?
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canada jezus posted:My parents would like to get a more reliable wifi router than the one built into the modem that they have. Since there are macs in the household and the idea of time machine backups seemed really neat to them, i figured make life easy on myself and get an airport extreme and call it a day. Now the refurb store has the 2009 models for 115€ and the 2011 model for 125€. I've looked over the feature list but i'm a powerful enough networking wizard to know which one of the two is a better deal. The latest Extreme has a faster CPU, better for distributing signal to multiple devices; I'd say the extra 10 eurobazongas is worth it. quote:edit: Also if someone knows about wireless repeaters that are confirmed to play nice with above routers that'd be neat to hear about too. The Airport Express was designed to work as a repeater for the Extreme. Kinda expensive just to do repeating though, why don't you just get the newest Extreme and see if it's range works for you? You might not even need the repeater.
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It's a little old to handle your 55 Mbps bandwidth IMHO, its Broadcom CPU runs at 300 MHz which is bare minimum to handle 802.11n (also IMHO), you'd be better off with a newer router like an AC-66. You also may have to tweak transmit rate/power and some other things in DD/WRT's settings. I recently set up a NT-56U router (Ralink CPU running at 500 MHz) for a FIOS user and if anything it increased speedtest results because the modem, like most Actiontechs (except the very latest ones) was a POS. It was set to handle everything including IP distribution and NAT, and the modem was set to act as just a bridge. Fake Edit: SmallNetBuilder says stay away from the just released RT-N65, stick with the RT-N56U (if you don't give a poo poo about Tomato or DD-WRT or custom firmware period, and don't have or plan on getting 802.11n 900 Mbit equipment) or AC-66U. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jun 7, 2013 |
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Welp, the new Airport Extreme Base Station is out, and supports draft 802.11ac.. looks like it's running a made-for-Apple Broadcom 53019 SOC chip running at 1.1 GHz.. has six antennas! It has a 'Beamforming' array, wow, a new buzzword! Sounds like adaptive shielding.. There's a fan that cools the power supply, but it only seems to blow upward; the only exhausts are at the bottom of the unit. Sigh. So just for the sake of being complete, here are some specs that should go into the OP: Apple Airport Extreme (6th Generation) NOT DD-WRT OR TOMATO COMPATIBLE, 512 MB RAM, 32 MB flash, Broadcom / Cortex dual-core A9 processor runnning @ 1.1 GHz, supports draft 802.11ac, maximum throughput of 1.3 Gbps, simultaneous dual band radio, Gigabit Ethernet LAN/WAN ports, beamforming array
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Just remember that at the moment you have to have matching chips (like the new MacBook Airs have) or have equipment that follows the current 802.11ac draft standard for BEAMFORMING to be enabled. There have been a few unscientific posts on YouTube and other boards saying the new AEBS helps downloading even on older 802.11n equipment, though.
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Lowness 72 posted:What do you guys think of the Almond? Or the new Airport Extreme? Almond is a good router for non-techies to set up, great for oldsters that don't need to torrent multi-gigabyte Obamacare documents. The touch screen even comes with a stylus so you don't need a laptop to configure it. However, it's only got a 384 MHz CPU, and it's not dual band, and it probably wouldn't be good for a large household or somebody who wants bleeding edge performance, but it's pretty inexpensive at $90 from Amazon. New Airport Extreme is top notch but unless you own a brand new MacBook Air or a laptop with a brand new 802.11ac NIC, you won't be able to take full advantage of its higher speeds, you'd be better off picking up an Apple refurbed 5th Generation AEBS for $125 from the Apple Store. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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nielsm posted:How is Asus RT-N56U compared to the OP-recommended RT-N16? They're pretty much the same price, is the N56U just an updated version? I've installed RT-N56Us for over a dozen clients and they're all rock solid and hella fast on 802.11n at the 5 GHz band, except for one whose power supply got fried when the user ran a loving Dyson vacuum cleaner on the same surge strip the N56U was on. Its onboard Gigabit Ethernet ports even support routing of jumbo frames so if you do any wired transfers from machine to machine and you have NICs that can handle jumbo frames, you're set up well. And it has 3X3 MIMO so if your laptop / desktop NIC has compatible hardware, it's like warp speed. Just make sure you update to the latest firmware after you unpack it. Also remember that it uses a proprietary chipset from Ralink, so it's not compatible with DD-WRT / Tomato / OpenWRT or any other alternate firmware, currently. Can't speak for the RT-N16 other than it is DD-WRT compatible, it's single-band (2.4 GHz) and has a nice quick CPU as well and if you don't give a poo poo about or need 5 GHz 802.11n, it's pretty decent. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Jul 28, 2013 |
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Ramadu posted:What is the difference between the apple airport express and extreme and is it worth 100 bucks? Just to dog pile on, the Express is what you use to extend the network of the Extreme, or add wireless speakers and / or a printer, assuming you want to use the USB on the Extreme for something else like a hard drive or flash key. It won't be particularly fast as it's only a USB 2.0 port. The Extreme has four Gigabit Ethernet ports for high speed wired routing.
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No problems, the utilities are available in Windows versions and are updated at about the same time as the Mac ones. The refurb AEBS 5th gen is a good deal since it's literally the same as a new AEBS, as Apple themselves has replaced any defective parts and you get the same warranty as a new one. Also, the AEBS has a 1.2 GHz processor and 128 MB of RAM, it's beefy enough to handle a boatload of clients. It also has 3X3 MIMO if you have compatible wireless hardware. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Dec 31, 2013 |
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Yep, you can use a USB hub to add both a printer and a hard drive to the AEBS. Just don't expect bleeding edge blazing fast file transfers; and Macs running the latest MacOS will be able to communicate the fastest with the AirDrive as AppleShare File Protocol has been optimized on both sides of the issue (better drivers and fixes in the latest firmware update, make sure to check the update level using Airport Utility.) BTW, the most current Airport Extreme Base Station (802.11ac) is up on Apple's refurb store for $169 if anyone cares.
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Welp, sounds like a good time to add this to the OP: Airport Extreme Base Station, 6th Generation Broadcom BCM53019 SoC with dual-core A9 processor @ 1.1 GHz, 512 MB RAM, 128 MB flash, simultaneous dual band radio, Gigabit Ethernet, supports beamforming Supports file / print sharing, HFS+ and FAT32 formatted media on USB 2.0 port **NOT DD-WRT OR TOMATO COMPATIBLE** Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jan 21, 2014 |
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TheQat posted:The new Airports are not listed as compatible with the Windows utility The guy who reviewed the Airport Extreme 6th Generation (802.11ac) for SmallNetBuilder said he used Airport Utility for Windows v.5.6.1 with no difficulties.
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TheEye posted:I have an ASUS RT-N56U. I've never upgraded its firmware, so I decided to a little while ago. I downloaded the file from the ASUS website, unzipped it, and selected it to upload to the router via its firmware update tab. Try resetting it with the reset button (hold in for 30 secs.) and try again?
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Nearly all of the currently routers have this exploit, but Asus has released patches for them on this page: http://news.softpedia.com/news/ASUS-Makes-Available-Firmware-3-0-0-4-374-4422-for-Several-of-Its-Routers-426792.shtml Softpedia posted:ASUS has made available a new firmware package targeted at several of its routers, namely version 3.0.0.4.374.4422 suitable for the RT-N10, -N14, -N15, -N16, -N65, and -N66 devices, as well as for the RT-AC56, -AC66, and -AC68 products.
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Hook up a computer directly to the Motorola instead of the NetGear and see if the same thing happens?
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Except for QoS, usage charts, and the ability to forward more than a certain amount of ports, an AEBS should be good enough for most purposes. Airport Utility is also one of the few pieces of software that Apple still makes for Windows, and its got 100% feature parity with the Mac version last time I looked. I also don't know where else you can get dual radios (2.4 and 5 Ghz simultaneously) along with 3x3 MIMO antennas in a router with a 1 Ghz processor for $85 bucks.
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According to a lot of Googling, disabling WMM effectively disables wireless N, so you're really connecting at G throughput. I've also seen it mentioned that switching to channel 9 helps. Supposedly there is a fix in the official firmware regarding this bug which was published 7/13/2013, maybe see if there's a new shibby build for your router that rolls this fix in?
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Minidust posted:My Airport Extreme generally works great, but it has a habit of losing connection every so often. 100% of the time, I can just fix it by turning it off and on again. While I'm glad the fix is so easy, I'm a bit miffed that this happens in the first place while my lovely WRT54G never had such a problem. Very little to work on here. Does your computer lose the connection with the AEBS or does the AEBS lose connection with the ISP? What kind of computer? What OS? When did you get it? Are you running the latest firmware? Default for a leased IP from the AEBS is 1 day, you shouldn't need to alter it.
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Trip report for a refurbished 5th generation Airport Extreme base station: A client's 3rd generation AEBS was dying, wireless network kept disappearing; decided to get them a new one. No one there was using anything newer than a 1st gen iPad mini or Late 2011 MBP, so I figured I'd save them a few bucks over the latest ($85 vs $179 for the latest) and it was agreed. Ordered one from the refurb site and had it delivered to a local Apple Store that was on my way to work. Five days later, got an email saying it was ready to be picked up. The 5th Gen AEBS came in a generic box that had the same exact dimensions as the original box except there was no printing on them, only a big sticker with my name printed in huge caps and a barcode detailing what was inside. Everything that came with a new one (tiny booklet, power cord, cellophane wrapping around AEBS) came with the refurb. Couldn't see any scratches or signs of usage no matter how many angles I held it at. Took it to the site, replicated the settings of the original, everyone swore it was faster and I didn't even have to update the firmware, it already had the latest according to Airport Utility. Pretty great, would buy again.
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