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funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

rage-saq posted:

I've never seen any laws that indicate it is illegal to make international personal alcohol shipments on either the US or Belgian side. I don't know about NZ but they are a bit more progressive on the alcohol laws than the US so I can't imagine it would be breaking any laws.
International shipping for beer is a LOT of money. Like $60 USD for shipping a 6 pack of beer.

UPS and FedEx only ship alcohol under certain circumstances (and a six-pack internationally would be way more than $60) and i'm pretty certain it's just plain illegal to ship it via USPS. don't know how that applies to things coming in to the US, but customs is gonna be checking it out on both ends.

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Oct 28, 2011

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funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

rage-saq posted:

goon beer trade love

i've now completed a trade back and forth with one goon and in the middle of trades with two others. do we want to add a list of active/verified "good traders" to the OP, or are we familiar enough to assume that everyone who's been around for a minute isn't gonna dick anyone over?

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
would like to get my hands on some Boulevard Saison Brett and Imperial Stout (and maybe a few other midwest beers that don't make it to VA). i went ahead and made a google spreadsheet, which is here- those are all the seasonal or non-native things i'm sitting on, but obviously have access to many other breweries (Ommegang, Allagash, and Terrapin, to name a few not in my cellar).

edit - did this for my own benefit, not just trades, hence a few "no"s. a few of those might be negotiable under the right circumstances.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

CalvinDooglas posted:

Alright, I guess the local trade isn't gonna happen...


man, if i didn't already have a regular trading partner in Portland, i'd be all about it. on your behalf, though, i will tell everyone that you have access to a lot of small, excellent breweries with very limited distribution. look up Rising Tide and Maine Beer Company, guys!

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

rage-saq posted:

I've used those, they are expensive and they fall apart. The Rare Beer Club has some pretty clever molded eggcarton/particle paper material that can hold 3 750mls per layer that are pretty clever, but I don't think they would secure as well as styrofoam shippers, which are totally the way to go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxX1kA-nhZk&feature=player_embedded

yeah, those inserts don't look so great to me- they could collapse really easily if enough weight was put on the box; kicking poo poo down the stairs just proves that they don't move much within the box. also, no loving way i'm gonna trust a "packaging expert" who doesn't use a tape gun.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

CalvinDooglas posted:

Boxes can be pretty resilient. The thickness of the outer box will make the biggest difference as to "crush weight". The egg carton type things won't protect against weight at all, since they effectively make the beer bottles the vertical support.

Also, I think DHL ships alcohol. The BotM came DHL, I remember.

i think rage-saq is talking about something like this, which, from what i've seen, works pretty well. most wine shippers use styrofoam, though. i bubble wrap and double box, but that's because i run a UPS Store and don't have to pay for materials.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Docjowles posted:

Any ideas where else I could find those styrofoam shipping packages in the OP? Online? I went and asked at some local liquor stores and not only do they not sell them, I got scolded for trying to illegally ship hooch :cop:

if anybody gives you a hard time, tell them you're flying and need to check the box. jerks. you can order them from uline, but you'd have to order a lot, so maybe ask around at various pack-and-ship stores (they probably don't sell them, but my store gets them from people who don't want to toss them in the trash) or like a U-Haul spot as they sometimes have different materials than a UPS Store.

okay, just looked and found this. $14 isn't a bad price when you consider how much material you'd need to properly pack that many bottles otherwise.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Docjowles posted:

Awesome, thank you. I ended up getting one of those and a couple of the 6 packs too so I can have something on hand for future trades.

nice! a quick tip: U-Haul boxes are sometimes kinda flimsy, so you might want to throw an extra layer or two of cardboard inside of the bottom of the box so a random corner won't poke through and break the styrofoam.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Corbet posted:

Anybody interested in Jolly Pumpkin La Roja Grand Reserve or Dark Horse Bourbon Barrel Aged Plead the Fifth?

They were both released over the weekend and I have some extras to trade.

yes, especially the former, but i'm not sure i have anything equally spectacular to trade.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

digitalhifi posted:

This looks like a really great way to ship beer. It's similar to the shippers at BevMo and the like but cheaper and can be bought online. They are $10 for 5 shippers and boxes. Each one holds 6 bombers or 12 oz bottles. Anyone use these before? I'm planning on trying them soon. https://www.clarkbrewing.com

never used them, but i work in packing and shipping and i think they look pretty crappy. as rage-saq said, find a styrofoam shipper (or bubble-wrap and double-box your beer).

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Sublimer posted:

The guy printed his own FedEx label and declared the weight as 17 pounds when it was really about 35 pounds. He says sometimes they will send it and sometimes they'll re-weigh it and adjust the price. Do any of you do this? It's a bit dishonest, so I'm not entirely sure I'm gonna do it in the future.

if there's a discrepancy between the billed and actual weight (or size), he should be seeing adjustments on his statement from FedEx. sometimes, especially with ground packages, the discrepancy isn't enough to change the cost, but if he's intentionally doing that, yeah, kind of a dick move.

edit- Drayman's Porter is fantastic, that would be a go-to if i lived in New England

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Perfectly Cromulent posted:


Lessons learned:

[*]Use FedEx. I went with UPS. Brought the package to the shipping center on a Saturday morning. It didn't even start its trip east until the following Monday. Then it took 8 days to reach its destination. I should have requested it to be delivered by Friday of that week at the least and payed whatever extra money it cost. FedEx looks like it has a better default shipping option.
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UPS Ground does not move on Saturday, that's normal, and the reason it took so long to get there was because of severe weather delays between the two of you (there was even a train derailment in Montana; maybe your box got all shook up?), which likely would have had the same effect on a FedEx shipment. upgrading the shipping would not have helped in this case, not to mention increased the price significantly. lovely about the bottles, though, sorry to hear that.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

rage-saq posted:

Ship on a Monday and ship fast enough so that it arrives at its destination by Friday. That way it never sits in some random warehouse for days on end, its always moving towards its destination.
Also, if its going to get really loving cold inbetween your shipping destinations you might want to ship air.

yeah, i was gonna wait for rage-saq to chime in; i know packing and shipping very well, but not much about alcohol storage and cold tolerances.* the only further advice i can provide is to make sure the bottles are moving as little as possible so the carbonation doesn't get all agitated. also, if you're gonna secure the top, which some people swear by, stretch/saran-wrap it really tightly and then go around it a few times with packing tape (not masking, duct, electrical, etc).

*shipping warehouses tend to have minimal climate control at best and trailers are sometimes loaded days in advance of actual movement. you can check the detailed tracking info to see the exact route it took and get a better idea of the temperatures another shipment is likely to experience.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

SUPER HASSLER posted:

I did! I guess I'll see what went wrong when it comes back to me.

were the bottles moving inside the container? if there wasn't any packing material in there, they can bounce around a fair amount.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Midorka posted:

Thanks, after I posted I realized I should probably tape it, then put saran wrap or something else around it then tape it again. Can't wait to ship this out!

really, you should bubble-wrap it.

with the cans, you don't have to worry about vibration/knocking together so much, but they can still get damaged. at the very least get an inch of densely-packed paper on all sides and line the inside of the box with an extra layer (or two) of cardboard.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
nevermind, solved.

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Apr 21, 2012

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Lutha Mahtin posted:

For trade:
Minnesota beer.

In search of:
Cool/weird local beer from where you live.


who is this "Surly" you speak of...?

no, really, i would be interested in delicious stouts (and sours and saisons) from your neck of the woods. here is what i have- all the breweries i have access to are on the second page.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
okay, since my brother failed to grant me my wish and bring back a decent haul from his trip to Florida, i'm looking to get some of the stuff he missed, namely Cigar City, Swamp Head, Peg's (maybe a stretch) and 7venth Sun. big stouts (Zhukov in particular), sours, and saisons are all of interest, and special-release stuff like BA Church on a Hill would also make me happy (really, i'll take anything that's not an IPA or plain old lager). would also like stuff from Michigan that doesn't make it out my way- Dark Horse, Kuhnhenn, JP- you know, what you'd expect someone to be looking for.

for anybody else, i'm always looking for Crooked Stave.

on my end, i have this crap to offer. of note are the highly-rated Hardywood Gingerbread Stout, Blue Mountain Dark Hollow, Imperial Stout Trooper, and Williamsburg Alewerks' Cafe Royale (even rage-saq liked it!) and Bourbon Barrel Porter (just picked up a fresh case of the latter and have a few bottles from last year). if you look at the other tabs, you can see what all i can get, because i'm obviously not cellaring IPAs and poo poo, as well as goons i've traded with. you can email me at smrandolph at gmail.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
i, too, would be interested in a bottle or two of Hunahpu's. i have a fair amount of cellar i'd be willing to trade, including big stouts and sours from the likes of Hardywood Park, Goose Island, Founders, Hill Farmstead, Olde Hickory, NEBCO, Firestone-Walker, Williamsburg Alewerks, and the Bruery.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Boris Galerkin posted:

I live in Belgium and I'm going to the US next month and I'm wondering if anyone would be interested to set up a trade.

yes, i would absolutely love to get some Cantillon, etc, but you're going to be spoiled for choice and traders, so it's more about what you want specifically. since you don't have PMs, you could email me (smrandolph at gmail) and i could provide you with a list of what i have and what i could obtain.

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Apr 25, 2013

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Boris Galerkin posted:

Is shipping beer really just as easy as going to Bevmo and buying the foam box/packaging and then taking it to a UPS store? Do they only sell them for 12 bottles or do they go smaller to say 6 bottles as well?

as long as you don't tell them you're shipping alcohol (it is not illegal to ship it via FedEx/UPS, but it requires a contract, which you do not have, so unfortunately you have to lie), yes.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Contents: "Yeast Samples"

do not say this. first, it sounds fishy, and second, if the box should go missing and you need to file a claim, good luck giving them a value/receipt to get some sort of compensation. i would suggest saying it's some sort of local specialty like hot sauce, sparkling cider, olive oil, or maple syrup- that way you can go online and find a price since you cannot give them the receipt from the beer shop.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

ExtremistCow posted:

My boss was travelling and asked if I wanted anything from Three Floyds. My response was "as much Permanent Funeral as you can get". He literally got me the maximum, which was two cases. Totally fine because this beer is amazing, but I seriously doubt I'll drink this much before faded hops, bro. Anyone interested?

my friend has a few bottles of Bourbon Gingerbread Stout he wants to trade, so i'll see if that's something he might want- assuming you want Bourbon GBS, of course. how much does the PF cost?

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
yeah, figuring out what your beer is really "worth" is a matter of experience. obviously, if someone wants to give you X, Y, and Z crazy beers for a bottle, that's their prerogative, but the trade value is mostly a combination of rarity (bottle count and distribution area) and demand. as crazyfish was pointing out, a Dark Lord variant might "only" cost $50, but someone who drove 600 miles and stood in line for the better part of the day is going to expect something pretty drat special in trade for one, and when people are practically throwing their cellars at him, well, he's got the chance to make a killing.

so, yeah, i break beers down into tiers of availability more than dollar amount- year-round, seasonal, limited, and rare- and try to match those up when making a trade, but i don't worry too terribly much about it beyond that so long as i'm getting some beer i want. if you're really concerned about equal value, you could get an account on beeradvocate and compare the proportion of wants to haves for your beers and those you want.*

that said, i want your beer.


*we don't really care for BA too much around here and it is some ways responsible for the gotta catch 'em all mentality/rarity obsession that drives a lot of traders, but it is a good indicator of market value

(edited because i didn't pay enough attention to your post before responding)

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 22:11 on May 22, 2013

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
i run a UPS Store and i've never heard of "too much tape." if they feel that the box is in bad shape, they can certainly advise you to use another box, but beyond that their only responsibility is to inform you that they will not be liable for damage to a customer-packed item. but yeah, that's an unlikely scenario at an obviously ill-run location.

also, i fix up people's lovely packing all the time (unless they're dicks), but i'm a nice guy, so don't count on that happening.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
any chance of getting hooked up with a growler of Peg's Rare DOS? looks like they're selling them tomorrow, PM me if you want to make something happen.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
the beer side now goes by the name Cycle Brewing- it's on their facebook.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
any Ohio goons hitting up Jackie O's on the 17th for the release or Evelyn and Chunga's Oud Bruin? if so, i would like to talk to you!

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Next week I will be hitting Allagash, Alchemist, and possibly Hill Farmstead. Requests?

if you ended up with HF Vera Mae or Arctic Saison or any Allagash sour then you should hit me up, i've got good stuff to trade!

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
yeah, obviously you don't want to trade year-round shelf beers for something you got two bottles of from a beer release that you waited six hours in line for, but there is way too much of an emphasis on "winning" trades with some people. i've got a semi-regular trading partnership with five or six goons and it's really fantastic- one us sends a message like, "hey, X is coming out, you interested?" you see what else is kicking around, maybe establish a dollar amount, and bam, trade. if you trade with someone long enough, you don't even need to be that formal, you just send a box with a heads-up knowing that you'll get something sweet in return.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
since SA's messaging system is kinda whatever, i'll post this instead:

to the multiple goons i've been discussing trades with, i'm likely going to ship this coming Monday as there is something being released this week that i'd like to include.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
Florida goons, any CCB Life is Like still kicking around? if so, i would like a bottle or two, message me and we'll figure something out.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

swickles posted:

Pretty doubtful that you will find anyone. It was drat near impossible to get here in Florida, it was a very limited release. Good luck though!

had reliable reports of it being on the shelves in Naples and Ft Myers, although i'm sure once word got out they disappeared

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

air- posted:

Great box from funkybottoms. Thanks a ton! Gonna keep this regularly going for sure.

A+++ would trade again!

(had that stout last night, it was exactly what i wanted- roasty, sweet, and easy to drink)

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:

I'm having the worst luck trying send some beer. 2 different FedEx stores and a ups store have decided to cut open my neatly packed box, see beer and deny the package. Any ideas? This is with me already having a label bought and ready to apply.

they are not loving allowed to do that.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
no, i mean they can't arbitrarily open up your package. they can advise you about proper packaging, but if someone walks into my store with a Van Gogh an literally wants to slap a shipping label on the canvas, they are allowed to do so. at a UPS Store, if they suspect you of shipping something illegal/not allowed, they can call UPS and say, "hey, there's something sketchy about this box" and then UPS can look into it, but clerks at the store cannot just whip out a loving box cutter and open poo poo up.

FedEx stores are corporately-owned, so they might be a little different, but i still don't think they'd be allowed to do that for obvious reasons.

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Oct 16, 2013

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
while i don't post about them, i've done many goontrades and have, with the exception of jack skeleton, always had very positive interactions, but i feel like Catfish Noodlin deserves a special shoutout for a thorough and elaborate packing job and for sending me too much loving beer.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Angry Grimace posted:

I just did a trade of a single Citra bottle plus one throw in can and it was $18.75.

FedEx hooks up pretty decent discounts if you sign up for an account. i'm curious, though- do you guys get many adjustments, or are you careful to make sure all of your information is accurate in the first place?

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Cbear posted:

OK cool. Just new to rare beers so trying to figure it out. If anyone has a hankering for some gingerbread let me know.

yeah, GBS trades really well, although you're not going to pull whales like when it first came out. interest is out there and you can get limited stuff from the right people, though.

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funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
if anybody is able to get their hands on a bottle of Hangar 24 Pugachev Royale, holler at your boy. looks like it's being released 12/7.

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