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crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

I'm looking to get some Surly brews, most notably Bender, Cynic, and Coffee Bender. A couple cans of each should do it. Don't have much of a cellar, but I can trade anything I can reasonably get in Chicago (i.e. don't expect Bourbon County or other super rare poo poo I can't reasonably find on the shelf, but Zombie Dust isn't out of the question).

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crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

FT: Dark Lord 2012 (1x)
ISO: Hunaphu (any vintage, preferably 2012)

Not sure if this is a dead even trade, but whatevs. I'm willing to expand to include things I can grab off the shelf in Chicago, especially if it means I can get Cucumber Saison.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

swickles posted:

Love's Child #2 maybe?

Love children #2, I guess.

To get back on topic, still want to land a Hunaphu for dark lord '11 + chicago locals if at all possible. I am probably way off base but it never hurts to try.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Russian River's sours are worth every penny they command. I've never had Beatification, but Consecration is probably my favourite sour made in the USA.

edit: sorry, didn't realize this wasn't the main beer thread.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

With a FedEx account, you never have to describe anything to anyone. Just print the label, slap it on the box, say "here you go, it's got a label already" and walk out.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Catfish Noodlin posted:

This might be a dumb question I missed an obvious answer to even after reading the OP, but how do you gauge the trade value of a beer? I'm not so much concerned about maximum value as I am getting something fun and interesting in return to try, but I've got no framework to make sure I'm not making a dumb trade and have never really tried this kind of thing before.

I'm asking because I've got a Founder's membership to Funky Buddha, who are opening up a new brewery shortly. I'll have access to a whole bunch of special releases, and I know that they are fairly well-regarded and coveted. Is this something I should probably only trade for special releases or rarer things, or what?

Unfortunately I think the only way I can think of is to read trade forums pretty much constantly. At some point you'll get a better handle on it. People generally frown on threads like "what can I get for this beer" but if you word it like "here is a beer I want, what kind of ammo do I need to land it?" they'll bite.

Some general rules of thumb:

- If the beer you have is a distributed shelf beer and is not called out specifically in trades (Pliny, Zombie Dust, etc.) it is probably worth as much in trade value as its dollar value.
- Trading quantity on your end for quality (on their end) is very difficult though it's easy for the one with quality to trade for quantity. Don't expect to be able to trade $200 worth of shelf beer for a vanilla Dark Lord, for example.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Sublimer posted:

I would love to trade for Raspberry Tart and Serendipity... are those hard to come by? I can let go of some pretty good stuff. Let me know if you're interested!

Luckily for you, they're not.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Next week I will be hitting Allagash, Alchemist, and possibly Hill Farmstead. Requests?

Man, I would love a Vera Mae (because goddamn was it good) but I really can't deal with yet another trade this month :smith:

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

FreelanceSocialist posted:

I'll see about grabbing an extra bottle or two, so one will be around when you're ready.

Awesome. Actually, the one thing that would tip a trade to 'sooner rather than later' would be if you got some double sunshine. Definitely one of my top wants right now.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Cervixalot posted:

I actually just got a bottle of double sunshine in a trade alongside some decently fresh heady topper. Chi Bottle share time?

I dunno if we'll be able to scrounge up a full on goon bottle share on short notice, but if you wanted to split that DS I'm sure I could find something nice to open...

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Does anyone live near Cascade and is willing to trade-mule me some bottles I can't buy online? Extremely interested in Tangerine Dream, Elderberry, etc. Have tons of great Chicago beers plus a cellar with some quality items in it, I'm sure we can come to an arrangement.

edit: I'm also interested in a separate trade for Cantillon 50N4E. I don't know if any of you guys have it, but I figured I'd ask. Will dig very deep for this one.

crazyfish fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Aug 31, 2013

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Imasalmon posted:

How do y'all go about determining fair value for trades? Someone offered me Hardywood gingerbread stout, bourbon gingerbread stout, and a can of heady topper for one of my jester king atrial rubicite's, which sounds decent to me, but an acquaintance at the bar told me to hold out for more. Any advice on how to determine appropriate trade value?

Also, I have a bottle of atrial rubicite I'm willing to trade (outside of the one mentioned above), if anyone is particularly interested.

The only way is to read the trade forums. A lot. None of those beers are particularly valuable, but if you want to try them, go nuts. AR is trading pretty hot right now. Not insane hot, but if there's something you want to try more than those beers, you can do better.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Honestly I have had zero bad experiences trading with goons. funkybottoms, Zam, Capt. Awesome, Midorka, and rage saq have all sent quality boxen, and I've met a number of others for IP trades as well which have all gone swimmingly.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Furious Lobster posted:

Just got some Alpine Great and very willing to do 1:1 for Jolly Pumpkin Sobrehumano Grand Reserve.

I will do this, provided I get my hands on some.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Is anyone going to the Otto/Matt release at HotD tomorrow? I'm looking to trade for two bottles of Otto as a gift for my coworker who holds the name in great significance. Let me know what it'll take on my end.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

atothesquiz posted:

I know of someone near me that is looking to sell off a couple of beers he has cellared for awhile. He isn't interested in trading, just looking to sell.

One bottle of each:
BCBS Rare
BCBS Vanilla
BCBS Coffee 2010
BCBS 2009 22oz
Big John 2011

He's selling these five bottles as a bundle and he's asking for $200. This actually doesn't seem too far from what these 5 bottles would trade for in a $4$ trade. What do you guys think?

If this weren't BCBS release month, I would pay $200 for that, though I'd trade the rare and vanilla for other beer.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Me in Reverse posted:

Have you seen the loving traderape going on with this beer?

It is absolutely as good as what it's being traded for. I highly, highly regret not driving up to NG for the release.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Me in Reverse posted:

Current FT on reddit... "Hill Farmstead CD6 + Beatification B5 + '12 BCBS, 3:1".

A couple weeks after the release, I saw someone offer a Blabaer 375 for two. I dunno if I'd do that trade myself, but VSB is really drat good.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

LeafHouse posted:

I took a trip up with a buddy to get this when it came out but neither of us has cracked one yet. Maybe I'll bust it out for christmas a goon bottle share.

Fixed that for you.

In any case, so as not to derail this thread, does anyone have an extra Melange #1 laying around that they'd trade for Chicago beers? Black Tuesday is not good, but Melange #3 proved that Black Tuesday could be a component in a tasty blend.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Bag of Sun Chips posted:

I wouldn't consider those 3 beers rare, especially if I lived so close to Hill Farmstead. He can walk into a dozen local bars and drink most Hill Farmstead beers on tap.

$4$ is dumb anyways. If somebody has a problem with me trading a Sour Reserve, a 750 ml "Gueuze" with a smaller bottle count that was $25 for their Duck Duck Gooze, a 750 ml "Gueuze" with a larger bottle count because they paid $40 for it, I would tell them to go gently caress themselves.

Sour Reserve is also substantially better than DDG, so there's that too.

I like doing $4$ when doing local stuff most of the time as everyone's on equal footing, or kicking in a few locals to make up any cash discrepancy in two beers of equal rarity but differing costs. But rarity is worth something too, which is why when I see trades like FT: Rare ISO: Case of BCBS I don't poo poo on them.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Cbear posted:

I actually picked up two Abraxas in DC and just want to see what I can get for them. If anyone is looking for one let me know, I'm not picky.

Just so you know because you're fairly new to the trading scene, wording a post something along the lines of "what can I get in trade for this beer I just bought?" is poor form. Put together a more specific list of things you want, and do something like "hey could I trade Abraxas for one of these three beers?" You'll get people making GBS threads on you for the latter, but I think they're wrong.

edit: "What does it take to trade for x" is a more acceptable wording as well.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Xeus posted:

I have 2 12-ounce bottled of Bourbon County Stout I'd probably be willing to trade, is anyone actively looking for these. I don't have anything I'm really searching for, but love stouts.

If you love the stouts, just drink the Bourbon County because there's nothing you'll land for it that will be better.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

krustster posted:

What the... I thought this was "brewed once"??? Did they see the light and decide to make it multiple times? I blasted one in August and declared it to be the Best Beer Ever (and I had a 2012 Abyss on that same trip).

Nothing I've seen has suggested that Bomb was a one-off. Pretty sure there's a new batch coming soon but that's based on random internet speculation.

And to the guy wanting to trade Dark Lord for Sour Reserve 4, best of luck to you but I don't know a person on this planet that would give up a SR4 for a non-BA Dark Lord.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

broom posted:

Ehh sorry, my friend I am doing this for is getting cold feet. If he changes his mind (again) I will let you know.


If he has a second and decides to do it in the end, I will do that trade as well.

crazyfish fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Dec 3, 2013

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

1) Don't trade beer you don't have in your hand. Exceptions: Pre-trades (and make it clear that it's a pre-trade) for beer that you will definitely be receiving in the near future (i.e. in-person picking up a predefined allotment, etc.). And your trade partner doesn't ship a drat thing until that beer is in your hand.
2) Drink more locals. You're not in the middle of North Dakota; there are likely plenty of good breweries and beers in your area. You appeared in the beer thread in October, and I can understand that someone might not have found that thread but still have had been drinking good beer for a while, but it seems like you're trying to jump in to the 'whales' game way too drat early in your beer drinking 'career'. Slow down. Trading away beer you just traded for is a good way to burn through your pocketbook without actually getting you more beer.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Cbear posted:

I feel like a little kid now. I appreciate all the info.

I don't mean to sound like I'm yelling 'get off my lawn' or anything like that and I don't want to discourage you from discovering new beer. Really, I didn't get into beer 'seriously' until about two years ago or so. I'm just trying to relate some things I experienced myself distilled down into bullet points so that others don't experience some of the mistakes I and friends made.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Cervixalot posted:

Is it worth trying to trade for a BCBS Rare at this point? I think I could probably snag one for the combo of my Proprietor's + Cthulhu, but I think I recall hearing that Rare is past its prime at this point, and with a new batch coming in 2015, I may just be better waiting it out. Thoughts?

I'd really like to try Rare or Vanilla at some point, but I'll probably just use Crazyfish's vanilla bean recipe to emulate the latter.

Rare might be worth it to the right person. It is the epitome of what BCBS can be, and it was still great when I drank mine in April, but prop + cthulhu is a princely sum to give up. Personally, I wouldn't trade for one again or pay what it cost (I got one at last year's Binny's purchase raffle for $75, and it was worth it then, but I wouldn't pay it again today to drink).

BCBVS is almost definitely not worth it at this point. It's still a great beer, but it is no longer the vanilla bomb it was fresh. Just do the vanilla bean recipe with some regular. That reminds me, I need to use up some vanilla beans...

crazyfish fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Dec 9, 2013

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

danbanana posted:

That's not highway robbery but I wouldn't give Cthulhu for those two, personally.

Neither would I. I might trade it for a combo of port and bourbon Damon. Remember that Cthulhu is something on the order of 300 bottles. It's really on the order of Double Barrel Damon as far as rarity, but HF wins in hype.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

broom posted:

Cool, I actually get to Chicago fairly often but I'm sure we can find something. Would love some Rev Straight Jacket if that is gettable, also might be able to set up IP delivery depending on where you are.

Email me at SAbroom0 AT GMAIL DOT COM , same to you Kudosx

FYI, Straight Jacket gets released again this coming Wednesday.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Me in Reverse posted:

ISO Forgotten Island since at this point I am comfortable describing my bottle as "stolen" by a Goon trustee

drat dude, that's terrible! Though I'm not doing shipping trades anymore, if you could warn people as to who it was that would be helpful so we avoid them in the future...

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

I can't remember which of you Chicago dudes has mass VSBs, but: FT: 2012 Fou Foune, ISO: VSB, 1:1.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Straight Jacket is not at all hard to find. Right now, it's a shelf beer throughout Chicagoland, which is nuts. It's way too good to just sit on shelves.

If you feel like it, you can order it from West Lakeview right now for $20 a bottle (which is not far off from what most stores are charging), but if you feel like trading, I'm sure you can find someone willing to send you a bottle or two...

edit: not myself, I don't do shipping trades anymore, but it's not like you're suffering from a lack of Chicago traders in the thread...

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

LeafHouse posted:

If anybody got lucky on the Mini Snifters at Dark Lord Day this year and wants to trade me a pair I'll make it worth your while! Tradestuffs include DB Huna, King Henry, Baller Stout etc.

Don't blow all your good ammo. http://www.darkmattercoffee.com/collections/gifts/products/dmc-snifter

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

I don't do shipping trades anymore, but I'm going to be in Seattle from May 23rd-27th and I want to set up an in-person trade or two. I generally hate FT: list ISO: list but I don't really have a strong idea of what I want.

FT:
BCBS Proprietor's
BCBS Backyard
BCBS Coffee 2012
Upland Raspberry
Upland Cherry
FFF BA Behemoth
Rev Straight Jacket
Chicago shelf beers
(further cellar list available via email upon request)

ISO:
De Garde (pretty much anything, know practically nothing about these guys)
Ale Apothecary (ditto)
Boneyard growlers
Upright White Truffle Gose
Side Project
DDG
HF saisons (also E. and Norma)
Hommage
Cantillon
Other interesting bottles I'm not thinking of

I'm going to have only a limited amount of space for bottles given that I'll be flying, so I would strongly prefer no extras.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Any Chicagoons need an extra 12 bottle shipper? Got one I won't be using, and it's yours for free or homebrew or whatever you feel like.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Daunte Vicknabb posted:

Does anyone here know Furious Lobster outside the forums? I sent him a box a week ago and he still hasn't gotten back to me about whether everything arrived safely.

Yeah that's me vert.

He trustees for me for Bruery RS, I've met him in person and he's a good dude. I'll send him a message and let him know you're looking for him.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

air- posted:

Sup FIB goons.

ISO: IP trades!

I'm already in the middle of something with LeafHouse so that'll let us save money on shipping, but I'm happy to bring up more beer. Let's talk, will be up there for a few days later this month in the River North area.

ISO JK sours. Also, no reason we couldn't have a goon meetup at Local Option...

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Sublimer posted:

FT: Prairie Bomb (multiples) & Bible Belt ISO: New Glarus fruit beers

If you have any New Glarus fruit beers or any of their sours such as Serendipity or the Berliner, hit me up and I'm sure we can work something out! I also have some Crooked Stave Vielle and Surette up for trade.

Cheers!

FYI, Serendipity is also a fruit beer and is definitely not a sour.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

danbanana posted:

I heard that VSB wasn't awful last year but after that turned into something Cetacea-like, I'd expect this to be crazier. Word I've heard is 4,500 bottles split over 3 days, 2 per person.

This article seems to confirm the words you've heard through the grapevine: http://host.madison.com/entertainme...b59e748f88.html

I would have thought about going up, but I'm going to be off in wilderness that entire weekend.

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crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

On the rare occasions that I trade now (and only in-person), I find it's a lot easier to get deals done on lower-tier bottles using BA. I throw up FT: chocolate rain and get tons of replies. TalkBeer tends to have a more "seasoned" crowd so stuff like that doesn't move nearly as easily there.

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