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Hremsfeld posted:There is, of course, the Green Sun Gun that Jade is using at the top of the page here. So, if the green sun is...stealable? (I'm looking at you, Vriska...) Maybe takeable is a better word? Regardless, even if Lord English hooks his gnarled claws into the green sun and takes it with him, it won't really set anyone back. Jade made that gun from a bedsheet, in case anyone forgot. My main thought on the last page is that the Furthest Ring actually has a ring in it now.
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Don't forget Lord English managed to teach his time-rainbow powers to at least two trolls. It's not just that he's tapping into his mating instincts.
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Mar 10, 2013 01:03
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Caliborn's MO is brute force, apparently in more ways than one. Who knows how many lifespans of universes he's lived out solely for the apparent purpose of courting and/or destroying his sister. I almost wonder if the endgame of Homestuck is to let him kill Calliope, and then he ends his tour of destruction just because he has nothing left to fight for.
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Mar 20, 2013 10:57
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It seems to me that Hussie is pretty deliberately trying to maintain a balance when it comes to Vriska. This whole plan of hers has been about doing terrible things for the greater good. Before that she was trying to do a noble thing for all the wrong reasons. Before that she was doing terrible things in response to a terrible childhood. She hasn't matured; she's just grown up. I kind of hope she wears glasses due to being literally short-sighted. More importantly, I wonder how this arc of hers will end. Having it be a legitimate success or a legitimate failure doesn't fit with her role in the story. I doubt she'll ever conclusively be a hero or a villain, which I guess means that her weapon plan won't work out, but the sacrifices she's forced won't have been in vain? Hard to tell where this is going to go.
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Mar 28, 2013 19:32
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Literally Sharks posted:Sold. Now all I need is text... How about "Next thing you know is everyone's on their feet cutting a rug, making complete fools of themselves."
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Apr 3, 2013 21:12
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Midnight Raider posted:By the way, why is everyone suddenly so sure we're getting a big flash soon, or in the near future? I don't recall hearing anything from Hussie in a while, and goodness knows he's been reeling in his usage of them as of late. Because it's nearly the fourth anniversary, and we're at a climax point of the story. Personally, though, I reckon if he were planning a flash he'd have gone off the grid by now to make it.
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Apr 12, 2013 15:02
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I like that Jade is such a natural good guy that even mind control can't make her an effective villain. She's like Vriska, with the opposite alignment.
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Aug 5, 2013 00:12
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Nephthys posted:Also, Jade? Its hard because you gave him a chance to save him. You know you could just teleport him into the lava, right? I don't think Jade has it in her to be really evil. She talks the talk, and apparently wants to be (when mind-controlled) but just can't bring herself to directly hurt someone. She has to do it indirectly.
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Aug 5, 2013 02:16
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k5josh posted:I doubt the earlier pages will be retconned. The earlier retcons weren't plot-significant, but this could actually matter, so it wouldn't make much sense to archive readers to see the exact same thing twice. Not to mention the section this is retconning was some pretty important character stuff (ie Dave's mental breakdown).
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Aug 7, 2013 23:51
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life_source posted:?!?!?!?! The panel was always like that, but the image might not have had "preemptiveretcon" on the end (that image does exist and is exactly the same). Makes me wonder if he made a separate suffixed panel for some fancy programming thing that we don't know about yet.
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Aug 14, 2013 02:29
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Lizard Wizard posted:Jack IS relevant, though. He stole LE's gun not long ago. Different Jack. There are three of them floating around - First Guardian Jack (who Wampa was talking about), Cyborg Mobster Jack (stole LE's gun and also his minions) and Caliborn's Puppet Jack (from the present session). They should probably arrive around the same time Dirk does.
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Aug 15, 2013 18:11
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lotus circle posted:Nothing from A1 is actually relevant aside from Meenah and Aranea, with the occasional Kurloz doing things in the background. But I do wish we got to see their First Guardian, since they probably had a different one from Doc Scratch if B1 and B2 had Bec and then GCAT. There's still the loose end regarding Mituna and what made him burn out his mind powers, but really that's probably going to be part of Lord English's story more than anything else.
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Aug 15, 2013 22:20
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I really like the Condesce's position as a villain. On the grand scale she's on the same side of the heroes and is forcing them to do all the things they should have been doing anyway, while still explicitly being an enemy. I don't think I've seen that sort of thing anywhere else.
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Aug 16, 2013 15:05
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loquacius posted:Someone pointed out once that Jake is basically the Token Girl character from any given pulp or comic-book story from the 70s to the 90s, but a dude. I think this update pretty much clinches that. ...right down to the unneccessarily skimpy outfit. It's perfect.
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Aug 19, 2013 23:59
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glowing-fish posted:Given how much time and effort the Homestuck fandom has put into Homestuck, there seems to be very little information on what Hussie's philosophical leanings are. From what I remember of his Formspring stuff, he's an atheist with a computer science degree. He just seems to enjoy looking up spiritual fluff.
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Aug 22, 2013 04:01
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I still have a hunch that the ring will end up going to Tavros. It'd be good for his character arc, as he claims Vriska's goal away from her, and his ability is one of the few things I can actually imagine the kids using against the Condesce. I mean, it's obviously not going to actually end up with Calliope, so that's my guess.
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Aug 25, 2013 03:03
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I'm just waiting for the day a page loads a desktop toy to have John running around your screen.
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Aug 29, 2013 17:08
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I'm interested to see where this goes. Aranea has a point about her power level - she's several thousand times older than even the Condesce, she has more complete knowledge of the situation than anyone alive, and she's a god-tier to boot. I mean, she's sure to fail, if only because she said her plan out loud. But I reckon she'll managed to do a lot of damage (to someone or other) before she does.
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Sep 3, 2013 22:09
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Vriska had no problem controlling a load of Eridan ghosts. It's about how impressionable they are - that is, how easy they would be to control without mind control. Blood just gives a bit of natural resistance on top. (Or a lot, in the royals' case)
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Sep 5, 2013 20:01
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Blackheart posted:Uh oh, angels are supposed to usher in "the end" aren't they? On a fairly meta level, this whole Aranea section is putting me in the mind that Homestuck is finally gearing up for its conclusion. Like, still some way off yet. But a character is doing something proactively, so is probably sparking the chain of events that'll end the story.
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Sep 8, 2013 03:14
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Bell_ posted:
While it's unlikely, it... fits surprisingly well. It'd explain why Caliborn's kind were never meant to play the game. And Jake English being Lord English's grandfather is pretty fun.
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Sep 8, 2013 21:24
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So, Aranea has managed to clearly distinguish herself from Vriska. Also, we can all breathe out a sigh of relief.
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Sep 9, 2013 23:26
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lotus circle posted:Though really, nothing is stopping Condy from just mind controlling her again. This really is it - at any point, the Condesce could realise she's lost Jade and reassert control. It'll really put a damper on what would already be pretty strained relationships.
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Sep 14, 2013 02:41
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Bobulus posted:Crazy lack of sleep talking: Aranea gets defeated by Casey and her skeleton army. Because her level of hubris should be rewarded by being taken out by someone a weak as a game npc. It would be some much-needed plot resolution for poor neglected Bonebone.
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Sep 16, 2013 04:04
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Blackheart posted:But she's a rogue of void, and apparently her powers involve stealing the non-existence from things. Well besides the regular void powers of non-detection. Not just stealing - Rogues are a "take from the rich and give to the needy" class.
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Sep 16, 2013 15:07
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loquacius posted:Huh. I'd been assuming before that Brainghost Dirk was some sort of manifestation of Dirk's powers. Guess it was actually the Hopey Thing all along. It's both. As a Heart player Dirk is inclined to have a multitude of selves, and as a Hope player Jake makes his dreams real (apparently). Aranea might not have predicted it because this is a very specific interaction, probably catalysed by Jake and Dirk's relationship.
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Sep 18, 2013 17:16
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loquacius posted:I think this might have been an assumption we were making because of Brain Dirk, though. He can have his real self and dreamself awake and conscious at the same time, but I'm not sure if this translates to "a multitude of selves" unless we take it as a given that Brain Dirk was all him. It was laid out by Calliope specifically, before Brain Dirk ever appeared - though we always had AR to refer to. Nepeta was just bad at following the path the game laid out for her; most of the trolls were.
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Sep 18, 2013 17:24
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Remember Jack and PM can teleport once they're within the confines of the session, too.
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Cat Mattress posted:I don't know if it's meaningful or not, but PM is a pale gray instead of white now. She's grayer than Jade and Dave, and I'm pretty sure she used to be the same pure white before. PM has been grey ever since she became an exile.
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Sep 21, 2013 14:32
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JT Jag posted:"Holmes" is spelled correctly. Huh. Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff has always been strategic with its misspellings. It's the imitators that try to fit a typo into every word. Nothing quite compares.
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Sep 25, 2013 08:12
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Seoinin posted:So, real talk for a second here - Dirk is supposed to be creepy and awful right? Because between this and giving a guy brain damage with molesterbots, he's pretty creepy and awful. Pretty much, yes. Remember this is the same person who, in an alternate timeline, regularly violently duelled his 13-year-old son and immersed him in the world of pornography. Dirk is manipulative and emotionally blind, and while he does realise this he doesn't seem to think he can do anything about it. There's something of a theme in Homestuck about the more stunted characters ending up more powerful and successful, despite the broader themes of coming-of-age. Of course, they are usually villains.
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Sep 28, 2013 17:06
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I doubt this is the end of Aranea's rampage. Rose is heading over there too, after all, so she's got to do something.
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Sep 28, 2013 17:59
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Fister Roboto posted:Hussie could have saved himself a poo poo ton of grief if he had just said "Yeah, there aren't any minorities in this comic, I'm sorry for not being more inclusive but that's the way it is." Trying to please tumblr is a fool's errand. He'd been doing the "ethnically neutral" thing since before Tumblr got big. At least back then it was more like his approach to how you pronounce the names; it's not explicit in the comic at any point so you can fill the blanks with whatever.
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Terezi had been an emotional wreck ever since she got on the asteroid, really. She badly regretted killing Vriska, even though it was a necessary act. Then she met Rose, and felt inferior as a Seer. Then she met Latula, and felt inferior as a Pyrope. She shuts herself away from the friends she had, then Gamzee comes along and offers her a different relationship, but only exacerbates her self-loathing. Then she went to Aranea to try to find something else to change, which only makes her feel even worse. Terezi's problem is she'd convinced herself she had problems and being unable to fix them drove her mad. Gamzee does seem to be kind of the tipping point of it all, though. Karkat seemed to be getting through to her a little during those walkarounds, so maybe he and Dave could have brought her back to her old self if Gamzee hadn't been doing his thing. Given most troll relationships seem meant to make them more stable, there was definitely something wrong between them. Personally if I were to look for an example of a healthy kismesis I'd look more at what Terezi was like with Vriska, even if they weren't actually in that sort of relationship.
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Bell_ posted:As much as I say I follow Kanaya's guidance when it comes to being down with the clown, every character he hosed up was there to kill him. Karkat sicced Equius on him first, Nepeta attempted revenge, the whole Mexican standoff thing Kanaya interrupted and now Terezi. Equius wasn't trying to kill Gamzee, though. He just wanted to talk him down. Equius and Karkat are the only two trolls to have not attempted murder.
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EmperorFritoBandito posted:Sollux? He never had violent moments outside of self-defense or getting his brain hijacked. Sollux did that duel with Eridan with deadly lasers.
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Looks like it is ending soon! Hussie just announced that there will be no more updates until he's finished the comic and will post the rest in one go.quote:Gigapause: Commence.
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I remember suggesting Nepeta and Eridan's names. There were also some inconsequential commands that I could only tell were mine because of the way they were spelled; it was around the time Hussie was realising he didn't need suggestions at all because so many people gave commands that he could just pick the one that matched what he already planned to do.
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IUG posted:I didn't start reading the site until that was long past (Jane just entered the game when I caught up). When did the suggestion box go away? As in, when did the suggestions stop having an impact on the story, in terms of the story. Hussie started toying with the idea in act 2 - the bits where WV was dictating the commands to John - but he removed the command boxes entirely in the run up to the "Jack: Ascend" flash at the end of year 1. He wanted full control of the story to bring it to a good point for that flash, then figured that was how he wanted to work overall.
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Boneless Jogger posted:This is true. Someone (I can't remember the name) in an earlier version of this thread suggested Karkat Vantas as a name. That was also the only suggestion for the trolls where Andrew took the first and last name from the same person (If I recall, after that he took first and last names from different people.) He took Eridan Ampora together, because pretty much everyone was suggesting that name. I think others too, but mostly they were separate.
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