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Bongo Bill posted:Oedipal themes are all over Homestuck, because the surviving Oedipus stories liberally stole from the best parts of each other and from a related cycle of myths and legends, and because Homestuck liberally steals from that milieu and many stories that were inspired by it. Yes, there are so many references in Homestuck, that it is hard to see which ones are a) central to the plot/themes, b) thrown in as jokes or c) made up in the mind of people with too much time on their hands. That Hussie is actually thinking "Let's insert some of Nietzche's theory on the meaning of Oedipus into the comic here" is a bit far-fetched (although still possible). But that the sphinx is meant to at least nod towards Oedipus is pretty probable given the amount of mythological reference that he has put into the comic so far.
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glowing-fish posted:That Hussie is actually thinking "Let's insert some of Nietzche's theory on the meaning of Oedipus into the comic here" is a bit far-fetched (although still possible). v  v
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Aug 21, 2013 05:41
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glowing-fish posted:The thing about that Nietzsche reference is that it is a reference to one of his better known quotes, something that its hard not to know. It isn't a sign that Andrew Hussie is a devotee of Nietzsche's. I'm pretty sure the dude worships horses as a belief system.
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Aug 21, 2013 07:32
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Filthy Haiku posted:I'm pretty sure the dude worships horses as a belief system. Deep down inside, we all do
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glowing-fish posted:The thing about that Nietzsche reference is that it is a reference to one of his better known quotes, something that its hard not to know. It isn't a sign that Andrew Hussie is a devotee of Nietzsche's. I dunno, he seems to know more about Gnosticism than the average chap, but then again, you could learn names and meanings of gnostic and demiurgy deities, demi-deities and pan-deities after an evening over a good encyclopedia or website. It is fair to say he has a fair bit of convolution in his nature though. I'm still interested in seeing that leprechaun bullshit, just because I think it could really test the limits of his loquacity.
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Aug 21, 2013 10:02
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Bongo Bill posted:If it were just a straight-up retelling of Oedipus, then pretty soon we could expect John's dad and Jane's dad to kill each other. Well, the former is already dead, and the latter is currently in jail. Also I think it'll turn out they were the same person all along, he'll escape jail by going into a portal to B1 Earth. Nanna will legally adopt him to have an heir, and then he'll adopt baby John.
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Aug 21, 2013 10:17
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WhiffleballDude posted:Which will end up being his advice, as opposed to focusing and trying super hard like Roxy's been doing. Clearly falling rear end-backwards into god tier is the way to go.
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Aug 21, 2013 13:06
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Oxxidation posted:I am genuinely pissed off that this makes sense. I am genuinely pissed off that this wasn't written by Koos.
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Aug 21, 2013 15:32
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David Copperfield posted:I am genuinely pissed off that this wasn't written by Koos. Koos speaks through us all. In our hearts.
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Aug 21, 2013 15:48
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Since Koos keeps getting banned, I can't exactly find out how long they've been posting these insane/quasi-insightful posts about Homestuck. When did they start posting/start getting banned?
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Aug 21, 2013 18:37
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This has nothing to do with the update, but I just reread this page and I really sincerely hope we get more dad dialog someday.  Also some more Serious Business.
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Koos Group started posting about Homestuck here. He was banned for being bad at fyad, insisting minecraft was a game about autism, and threating supermechagodzilla. He was let back in a few weeks ago and is now an IK of fyad as of yesterday. Nate RFB posted:The past year or so it has felt like Hussie has distanced himself from the other "teams" that used to be involved. For the art team it was after Cascade, and for the music team it was around when solo album month got started. I don't know if this was planned or just kind of how things developed, but it just feel like most other people involved outside of Hussie have moved on. They pumped out a crazy amount of music for 3 years so it's kind of understandable that at some point it would slow down. I hope that there was no internal discord, at least. The music team has really made less music in recent months because there really isn't much left for them to do. There's no real need to keep writing homestuck music when there really isn't going to be any more chances to use it in the comic. There's enough of a backlog for hussie to make hundreds of flashes with the music that is already released, or in the planning stages. Volume 10's in the works, but that won't be released until the end of act 6 or later. There's always a large amout of fan music still being made, even from goons! (I believe LOFAM 3, the next unoffical fanmusic compliation, is being worked on as well, but i don't know a lot about that.)
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Aug 21, 2013 18:59
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glowing-fish posted:Given how much time and effort the Homestuck fandom has put into Homestuck, there seems to be very little information on what Hussie's philosophical leanings are. From what I remember of his Formspring stuff, he's an atheist with a computer science degree. He just seems to enjoy looking up spiritual fluff.
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Aug 22, 2013 04:01
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I'm pretty sure this is the one of the best updates we've had in a while. I could read Roxy and John dialogue all day.
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Aug 22, 2013 04:54
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Update! And wow, uh, looks like people speculating on John and Roxy hitting it off might be right?
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Aug 22, 2013 04:54
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JOHN: blah blah blah blah blah blah ROXY: ME:  Seriously, this is a great update. Roxy crushing on John is the new Best Thing.
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Aug 22, 2013 04:56
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Roxy posted:mental note: mack on At the risk of being unoriginal, Roxy is the best character.
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Aug 22, 2013 04:57
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WhiffleballDude posted:At the risk of being unoriginal, Roxy is the best character. Not only is she an able architect, she's the return of the mack.
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Aug 22, 2013 05:02
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So You Married Your Best Friend's Momdoppleganger by John Egbert.
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Aug 22, 2013 05:03
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I am legit enraged that this has been blah'd out. John narrating his bullshit would probably be fairly amusing 
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Aug 22, 2013 05:07
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quote:JOHN: blah blah blah TURNED BLURRY blah blah blah blah CLOWNS ON TOP OF THE WHITE HOUSE blah blah blah blah VAMPIRE HISSED AT ME blah blah blah blah LITERALLY INSIDE CON AIR blah blah blah GLITCHY BULLSHIT blah blah blah MET MYSELF blah blah blah blah FINALLY FOUND YOU HIDING IN THIS LITTLE GREEN PYRAMID! WHEW! Holy poo poo. This update is great, but that line is going to be very important later. We haven't seen everything he describes here, have we? Like - was he retroactively there for the showdown between Dirk's bro and the presidents?
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Bongo Bill posted:Holy poo poo. Yes, he was. We saw this during his original "flash across all of continuity" escapade when he stuck his hand in the dealywotsit. And the VAMPIRE HISSED AT ME was when he saw the Dolarosa carrying Baby Sufferer.
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Bongo Bill posted:Holy poo poo. There's only one way to find out. To the archives!
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Bongo Bill posted:Holy poo poo. Starting here is the "CLOWNS ON TOP OF THE WHITE HOUSE" and "VAMPIRE HISSED AT ME", but not necessarily in that order.
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Aug 22, 2013 05:10
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Ah, I forgot all the things he flashed through. Nevermind, then! This is just the most condensed recap yet, then.
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Aug 22, 2013 05:11
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Man. You could say that John is... Long-winded. 
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Aug 22, 2013 05:24
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I want Dave to recap his adventures to Dirk, it would be like 2 lines of glory
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Aug 22, 2013 05:24
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Glory of Arioch posted:Man. He is a bit of a gasbag.
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Aug 22, 2013 05:25
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SynthOrange posted:He is a bit of a gasbag. He's a real blowhard.
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Cabbit posted:He's a real blowhard. He's pretty full of hot air, wouldn't you say?
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LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HOMESTUCK
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Aug 22, 2013 05:33
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Man Hussie got really tired of writing those long recaps huh.
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Prison Warden posted:Obviously John will end up hooking up with Roxy. I want this to happen mostly because Dave's reaction would be priceless. Oct 25, 2012 11:16 AM
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lotus circle posted:Man Hussie got really tired of writing those long recaps huh. I'm impressed that he managed to sum up all of Homestuck in just two pages.
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John used the term "unstuck in canon" while going on his rant. I guess he's starting to grasp that's what it is at this point.
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I need to see Rose and Dave reacting to possible John/Roxy. That is the most important part about this development.
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Dolash posted:Update! I said this to my friend as a joke just before going to the page with Roxy's John-scan. I didn't expect to be proven right, let alone so quickly.
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I'm really not that interested in shipping. Can we go back to the glitches and intrigue?
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While I care nothing at all for shipping either, there's some part of me deep down that is OK with this particular case. As long as it doesn't drag on for too long. oh god I've jinxed it 
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