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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

"An author that can't get enough of ghosts."

Hmmm

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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Going to guess that it's 11 years in the future. That makes it viable that Dirk and Roxy knew their guardians before they were killed, and also means that the two were contemporary celebrities for Jane and Jake to know.

We also don't have to wonder how the two survived after their meteors arrived on Earth decades or centuries after the Earth was taken over. Roxy's Mom and Dirk's Bro probably saw the writing on the wall and made preparations to keep Roxy and Dirk safe and hidden.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Red Miles is basically the meteors for Roxy and Dirk. Something to motivate them to get in the game.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Dolash posted:

Homestuck is ultimately a jading experience. It's colourful and inviting and filled with kids and fun and strong characterization, but it's also capricious.
You might say terminally so :haw:

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Lord of Laughton posted:

Please WV have a speaking part. Please WV have a speaking part. Please WV have a speaking part.

Seriously, if WV somehow gets his own lines in the dialoglog I will be so happy.
He has already had lines, they just show up as commands.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

tinaun posted:

Switching king and queen. What does it MEEEEEEAAAN?
Well, it does make you wonder about the Black King's fate.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

It's a big meteor, so maybe the kids and trolls never find them.

Also, if uu is Lord English, then he is already here.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Interesting that both Kankri and Karkat never made use of their elemental powers. The Sufferer did which, combined with his Seer powers, allowed him to remember the old session.

So, it probably ties in with ancestry, something that would admittedly not appear to be useful to most kids playing the game.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Bobulus posted:

Wait a minute. Late October... has it really been a year since Cascade?
Exactly a year ago today Hussie brought Newgrounds to its knees.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Elysiume posted:

There's always next 4/13. :toot:
Which will be 4/2013

If he ends it on the 26th of that month, it'll mean Homestuck ran for four years and thirteen days :tinfoil:

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

It's possible that Gamzee never hit god tier, and is faking it for reasons unknown. This flash has shown that the bard outfit Gamzee is wearing IS accurate (Eridan was complaining about god tier Cronus and his codpiece), but why would Gamzee need his god tier outfit assembled unless he's faking god tier.

Why fake god tier? I can only imagine that it's to trick someone into thinking that they'll kill him for real (justly), only to trigger his actual ascent into god tier.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

While I don't hate this act (Gamzee :allears:),I never found the authorlog info dump to be all that appealing. So, I'm glad that's over and we can see the Caliborn/Gamzee teamup.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

The troll shirts are probably safest since they're just astrology symbols.

...of course you then run the risk of meeting an astrology nut.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Grrl Anachronism posted:

I want to know why GCat is there too. During my re-read I realized a very particular looking cat was seen very often at the side of Her Imperial Condescension. On the other hand, it's been stated that the Condesce had been trying to get Dirk and Roxy into the game, and it might also apply to Jane and Jake- GCat could be her little spy, subtly sabotaging everything. :ohdear:
She has the powers of the other blood types through some method that escapes me. This includes the brown-blood ability to take control of animals, much like how Tavros took over Bec.

So, GCat isn't against them, but it could be at any point.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Plom Bar posted:

I'm not saying Jake's faultless here, but every part of his characterization up until this point predicts this to a T. Jane told him she had no feelings for him. He believes literally everything he's told. Even now, he still believes it. If Jane had been honest when confronted, she could have avoided this. Not saying that she didn't have good reason to not be honest (actually, she didn't, but you know, teenagers), but it is what it is.
Unless you're Erisol, then everything you say is part of a hilarious joke.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Cabbit posted:

Quick, someone make a photoshop of Coyote stealing Jake English's bad memories.

After that one panel, I didn't quite feel like doing the whole thing :smith:

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

I want to note that Caliborn dropped Calliope's laptop at the start of his journey, and he was logged in as undyingUmbrage when Roxy pestered him.

So it's possible that this isn't Caliborn and someone else is on his planet. poo poo, it might even be Gamzee for weird clown unreasons.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Wasn't it stated by Caliborn that everyone but Dirk has him blocked? I guess he could get around it like this trolls, but he didn't seem interested in them anyways.

Also, another piece of evidence that Jake might, in fact, have brain issues.

EDIT: Also, wasn't Derse being devastated by the red miles?

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Renaissance Robot posted:

Yes it is true that people who have brain problems can sense their own kind, and are quite forthright about this. (alternatively accusations of physical mental defects are a fairly common go-to when it comes to describing people who in one way or another don't seem that bright)
What? You're looking at it literally, as if Caliborn knows poo poo. I am looking at what Hussie frequently does: having his characters and narration repeat certain things as foreshadowing. There is a bit of a pattern of people referring to Jake as if something is wrong with his head (and he did take a nasty fall on his head, helmet or not). It could mean absolutely nothing, or it's potential explanation for his behavior.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Ammat The Ankh posted:

Looks like that "Lady Massé" theory is gaining ground.

Also poor Callie, she has such bad self-image issues she won't even show her real face to her best friend. :(
I think it's less "skeleton person" and more "My face is literally that of my bully of a brother." I'd have self-image issues too if my face was Caliborn.

Also, Hussie said that cherubs aren't supposed to just kill off their other half, so expect this alt Calliope to have some problems of her own.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Given that Calliope has empty eyes when dead, I assume Caliborn is going to die at some point.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Technique posted:

Obviously Lord English actually IS that alternate Calliope, and the reason her cheeks are red is because she took her brother's blood color as a trophy and wore it or something. Like he took her blood color for his text.
No, she's hiding her cheek color.

Much like how a certain Time player disguised his chess pieces.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

I just noticed that Roxy's icon becomes angry in the final panel of this update :3:

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

frozentreasure posted:

Caliborn behaving towards Jake a little like Vriska did to John…

What are the odds that the new year will ring in with Jake getting killed by the meteor (spherical object) and going godtier? I feel like I'm forgetting a few handfuls of important details in the process, though.
Jake's Head: Drop

Crossing my fingers.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

She has a plan that probably goes against English, but isn't in the best interest of the kids. They're just, well, pawns in whatever scheme she has cooking.

I wonder why the wait until 4/13. Her plan must require someone from the old session and/or the trolls.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

I notice that in the end frame there is stardust behind her.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Nanna also grew up in the household of a humorist, whereas Dad was a businessman.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

A funny PS callback would be Dirk's trickster mode being no different than his normal self, and the narration commenting on how lovely his imagination is.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

There are currently four Jacks.

Troll's Jack - Spades Slick, who is wherever Hussie was when LE killed him,
B1 Jack - Bec Noir, who is fleeing PM/ chasing the meteor.
B2 Jack - Jack English, who just got, well, jacked by Caliborn.
Uu Jack - Jack Noir, who killed Calliope's dream self. It remains to be seen if he'll have a larger role, but I like to think Lord English knocked over Spades Slick's casino in the intermission to get the candy dogs that Caliborn used to bribe this Jack into murdering Calliope.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Fat_Cow posted:

So what's the point of Jack/Condence helping them go god tier when they can basically wipe the floor with them?
Caliborn has stated that he wants a proper challenge. He seems to be overestimating his Lord title.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Farfetched horror theory: the glow fades to show the kids in their god tier outfits.

They each draw back their godhoods to reveal their alternating billiard ball eyes.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

But does LE also get some power from the green sun? Seems counterproductive.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Cabbit posted:

I love the return of the Miracle Modus.
The alternating colors cast it in a whole new light though :tinfoil:

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Blackheart posted:

Sadly the remaining trolls can't go God Tier since that would mean Karkat gets to fly, and Paradox Space can't have that.
Alternatively, it would be hilarious for him to hit god tier and discover that Blood is the only aspect that cannot fly.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Ariong posted:

Actually, Gamzee must have gotten off of make out meteor at some point in order to travel back in time and gently caress with the sprites.
We have no idea when he did the sprite stuff since TIME TRAVEL and all that. He could have grabbed Aradia's music box during the three year trip, messed with the kids, and then came back with nobody noticing. Then he rode the meteor with Jade to Earth where he prepared for Caliborn and Calliope to arrive.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Ariong posted:

How would he get from the meteor to the planets and back, though? He can't fly.
It's possible that he actually IS god tier. Even if he isn't, there's a bunch of silly means for him to travel to each planet. It's not like there was a shortage of methods of flight available to everyone.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Yonic Symbolism posted:

Where does she get her knowledge of how classes and elements work, and how much does she know? She sure likes knowing things but she didn't seem to know a prince of heart could pull this off.
She has existed for eons as a ghost, with tons of other ghosts. I'm sure she learned plenty about classes and aspects.

Her flaw here is that, in her hubris, she either forgot that Dirk could do that or just assumed he was the kind of meat head that wouldn't consider a course of action that didn't involve a sword. It's also possible that ripping out someone's soul is a line she didn't anticipate Dirk to cross.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Act 6 is responsible for a lot of Homestuck's issues. Hussie explained that, at some point, he got the idea of a guardian session and started laying down the framework for that. This is why Act 5 was so much longer than every other act, as it had to explain more about how the game worked and establish the possibility for resetting sburb and all that jazz (on top of catering to the popularity of the trolls). Homestuck had to stretch and contort itself to accommodate this idea Hussie had, and you can argue it suffers for that.

The "three separate works" thing is an okay explanation that Hussie was all too eager to latch onto, but stuff like Return of the Jedi don't suddenly introduce a bunch of new characters that don't even interact with the main cast until the epilogue. I can't say if I truly dislike it, as there are many parts of Act 6 I like, but I see it as an area of legitimate criticism to throw another bunch of characters on the grill when we've already been invested in another gaggle of them for years now.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Last I checked he has a death grip on the Peter Pan references with Tavros/Vriska/Rufio and has run into the sunset saying that Tavros will become Captain Hook for reasons I don't care about. Although Vriska was the one who has the hook hand on one of the drawings of herself. Like I said, it's convoluted and similar to saying that Caliborn won't turn out to be Lord English due to all of the Wizard of Oz references and since he looks similar to the fake "Wizard" in the movie and therefore Hussie is the True Villain because he is, after all, the man behind the curtain (the end of act curtains IT ALL CONNECTS I SWEAR).

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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Bobulus posted:

Speaking of waiting on things, I just noticed the other day that the it's been like nine months since the most recent Homestuck/Problem Sleuth books came out. I'm really curious if the later acts will actually make it to print at this rate.

I know the dude is busy, but reading the author commentary is a great way to review the story. Here's hoping the Act 4 books shows up sometime.
I think his full attention is on the game right now, as it looks like he vastly underestimated the time it would take and does not want to gently caress up a million dollar project. Once that is finished he might do churn out another book just to rekindle interest and then get to back to work on ending this thing.

But basically we probably won't get any status updates on Homestuck until the game is done. The gigapause is probably going to be a year long at this rate.

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