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FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Your site map should be current however. If you're using some sort of plugin to Wordpress or your existing CMS you should be fine however if you created a site map manually for some reason you'll need to update it after each post. You do not need to notify Google though.

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FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Adsense pays on display ads as well as clicks. Depends on how the advertiser wants to run their campaign.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I think Amazon could do very well actually. Amazon referral cookies stick for 24 hours and your target demo does a ton of Amazon shopping I'm guessing. Even if they don't buy anything on first click you'll probably do well on later purchases alone.

Congrats on your traffic, I think Adsense is still the best paying for ad networks. Running your own ad slots and maybe doing sponsored posts are the next logical step. You might even be able to get into the pickier ad networks like Federated media with your traffic and demo.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Moniker posted:

Hey guys there was an incredible plugin for Google Adsense that I used to use and cannot, for the life of me, remember. It would allow me to save the ads as widgets and I could place them anywhere on the blog. Maybe it was just part of the heatmap theme? If so, what kind of plugins are you guys using for Adsense?

Heatmap theme does indeed have this built-in. For non-Heatmap themes I've used Easy Adsense for a while. Puts ad in most popular locations and I think it supports custom locations if you modify the template.

http://wordpress.org/plugins/easy-adsense-lite/

Make sure you disable the option to give 5% of impressions to the author.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Moniker posted:

Well the question is that the top ten sites on Google are just Youtube links and photos and stuff. In regards to back links, I suggest reading warrior forum or black hat world. Take it with a grain of salt but you'll slowly pick up on what you need to do in order to build some back links.

That's a pretty ripe niche IMO. I know Google owns YouTube but in my experience they would rather have a variety of sites and more text and content rich sites to have on the front page. Probably because it's easier to sell Adsense against a mostly text site rather than a YouTube link.

In other news I flipped a $60 domain I bought from GoDaddy's domain expiration auction in October into a $800 sale on Flippa last month. Put on a wordpress blog with mostly pictures, no back link work and it ended up getting around 100-200 uniques/day.

Buying expiring domains can be great because they're generally bought from the registrar before they drop so they preserve their age. The one I bought was regged in 2011 which I think helped a lot.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

laxbro posted:

So my primary blog is off to a nice start but since its a recipe blog I can only really do one post a week since it usually is an all day event to make one post.

I can have up to 5 addon domains with my lithium plan so I bought a few more domains to experiment with.

I recently bought an expired domain with a healthy amount of backlinks and want to know if ripping content off reddit is a viable method for building initial blog content. For example, will google penalize me for having duplicate content from reddit? I plan to ask the authors for permission and offer a permalink to their sites but was wondering if there were any reasons not to do this.

Doing a straight up repost of word-for-word content will get you penalized pretty quickly. Also, if you think about it, you will never rank higher than reddit for whatever keywords you're looking for so even if they didn't penalize you then the original reddit post would always come above yours in search rankings so what's the point.

Now if you were to expand on the original post, add an intro and conclusion, don't copy the entire thing just select quotes or passages and maybe dress up the article with some pictures and include a source credit I think you would be fine.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

First logo for sure, much cleaner and easier to read.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

The vast vast majority of porn sites out there are owned by a handful of companies, many of them being the content producers themselves. It's one of the hardest niches to penetrate (heh)


Brazzers owns nearly every streaming site out there in fact.

http://nymag.com/news/features/70985/index1.html

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 02:46 on May 28, 2014

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Mailchimp is fine of you have under 2k subscribers. Anything over then there's a monthly fee and it can get pricey.

I have a list with about 3k subs that I only mail to about 5 times a year. I use a wordpress plugin to manage the list and Dyn email to do the sending.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

As much as I hate godaddy their coupons for $1 or $2 domains are perfect for trying out new niches.

Also, the guy who bought my domain a few months ago let it expire so I'm going to snatch it up again and resell it :getin:

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

That's pretty good. I never have much luck with leaderboard ads, all my clicks come from 300*300 or 336*300 ads, mostly text.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Google is fine with gifs as long as you have them tagged properly and have some accompanying text on your post. You'll also probably get some healthy traffic from google images as well since I don't think they animate on the search page.

Adsense pays much more than any other network I've seen, on the order of pennies on the dollar.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Mods can't do anything, it's a site wide reddit thing.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Same here, I like using nRelate for increasing page views on-site for related articles but I don't think they're worth the trouble for monetizing.

Anyone have any experience with Google Webmaster tools? I have a site that I lost the domain and hosting to but have re-created it from a backup on a new domain and host. I tried to submit a change of URL with Google but they require that they can still verify the old site but it's down. Both URLs are verified in my webmaster tools but without the old site functioning it won't process the change. It's a PR4 domain so I'd rather not throw away all that work built up over the last 4 years.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

teeris posted:

Just read through this thread and made a black friday deals site. Looking to hopefully make some money/learn about wordpress blogging and online marketing in general. Thinking of content to put up for a deals site in the first half of October so I've just been browsing the web seeing whats out there right now. If anyone has any tips fire away. It's https://findblackfridaydeals.com

You need to build a newsletter badly. That should be a huge focus of the site. There are a million deal sites out there, a few Black Friday sites that are run very well because Black Friday is a very lucrative niche. You have a ton of visitors who are in a LITERAL FRENZY to buy something, give them a reason to choose your site.

Have a newsletter set up so that if a visitor comes to the site, looks around and decides that there's nothing they want to buy now they will sign up for the newsletter the instant an ad or a deal that they were looking for comes. You want to tell them when it's time to buy something instead of them seeking you out again.

It's going to be a very touch site to rank for. Look at BFAds.net, that's another goon who runs that site and it's very well run. The layout is clean, it has a ton of info and the first thing you see is the newsletter box. I also run a Black Friday site but I focus on a specific store so my niche is for people who are only looking for a specific store ad. The site does pretty well in this niche and I'm looking to expand to more sites but the most important thing for driving repeat traffic is a newsletter.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I'm not sure that's entirely true. I have a Black Friday blog that only gets sales in November/December and then stays dormant the rest of the year and I've had Amazon on there for 4 years with no issue. They might also cut you some slack if they see you do some minimum volume a year. If you aren't even getting any clicks in the last 90 days then maybe I'd be worried.

Speaking of which does anyone else here have a blog tailored to Black Friday/Christmas stuff? Any tips for this year?

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

If anyone is using Skimlinks they bumped their Amazon affiliate payout to 8.5% for the next couple of months. That's higher than the entry rate of ~4% from Amazon directly.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I didn't do as well as last year but it's because I started a bit late and couldn't get ranked high enough for a keyword I wanted. Still did good for about a days worth of real work.

I'll post some numbers after the weekend.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

invision posted:

This is always one of the best parts of this thread, seriously. I can't remember if we've talked about it, but do you use social media at all for your BF site(s)?

I don't do any social media at all, no. I'm happy flying somewhat under the radar of the company my site is based around.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

invision posted:

Where you at hombre

Work and school, I'll get something together tonight hopefully.

Here's adsense though!



Like I said, not as great as last year but can't complain!

I'll go through traffic and skimlinks in a longer post later.

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Dec 11, 2014

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Alright, for reference here's last year's numbers: $3800 adsense, $780 skimlinks
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3447030&userid=97204&perpage=40&pagenumber=2#post422552408

For those that don't know or forgot, I have a Black Friday blog that I run that is related to a regional electronics retailer. In fact, I used to work for this retailer many years ago. They had a horrible website, zero marketing and only advertised their black friday deals through the newspaper. I saw an opportunity to take their incompetence and create a website that presented the Black Friday ads in a digital form and break down the listing, prices, and discount from them an their competitors.

I've been running the site in some form or another since 2006 but have really just started pushing it heavily since 2010. I've dropped off most my other blogs since getting a big boy job so this is my main money earner for the year.

All the stats I'm posting are from November 19th to December 3rd which is the bulk of the traffic. This year saw a big drop, about half from last year revenue wise but near the same as 2012.

Traffic for the week before and after thanksgiving:

(Green is page views, Blue is Uniques and Orange is returning)

One thing to notice is that Cyber Monday traffic was huge this year and non existant last year. This is something that can be exploited better next year I think.

Adsense Revenue:


Skimlinks Revenue:


Didn't bother running any CPA offers since single-email submits have dried up.

Reasons for the drop:
  • I think last year might have been a bit of an anomaly. For some reason, Google was actually ranking my site ahead of the company I was writing about. This was bringing in huge traffic that I probably shouldn't have gotten. This year I was around #5-6 for my main keywords, behind the main company, their Facebook and a couple big BF sites.
  • Late start. I didn't start updating the site from it's hibernation unit late October. Because of this most of my rankings were for 2013 keywords and since Google autocompletes "keyword 2014" as the top hit, I lost out. I need to look at what keywords Google is autocompleting in August and start planning the site.
  • New site template that cut a bit more of the "spammy" stuff from the old template out. In an effort to make the site more mobile friendly and render faster, I had to ditch the 4 year old Wordpress template and go with something a bit more modern. I also had to move some of the 3 above the fold ads I had on the old site to below the fold to make this work better on mobile and load times. This lightening of the "in your face" ads I had before definitely made the site feel more polished but dropped revenue a bit.
  • CTR was lower due in part to interest-based ads. I actually turned off interest-based ads halfway through and switched to context only ads and saw my CTR jump. Interest based ads use previous browsing history and cookies to create relevant ads while context based ads simply scan the site content and delivery an ad. Interest-based ads were giving all kinds of unrelated stuff.

Things I liked this year:
  • New template did make things better. Mobile revenue doubled and I only needed the DigitalOcean $20 VPS and a caching plugin to handle the load. Navigation was improved and I think that will help me next year as the site is much more mobile friendly.
  • Skimlinks still rocks. Didn't think I'd make anything slinging $200 Chinese HDTVs from eBay but I ended up selling 9 of them on Cyber Monday and made $57. Not Bad.
  • Bing/Yahoo/Aol traffic is still important. I think about 20-25% of search engine traffic was non-Google but they had a much higher CTR on ads (lol olds)
  • It was still only around 12-16 hours total of writing and coding for the entire site for the year. Add another 2 hours of browsing slickdeals and fat wallet for new deals to promote and it's not a bad gig.

I'll be happy to answer any questions!

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Dec 11, 2014

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Install another analytics software besides Google, I use statcounter. That will give you raw urls of what your referrers are, usually you can pick up what Google is sending you from that.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Big Bob Pataki posted:

After months of grinding I've finally hit the big time




We Made It


In all seriousness though thanks you guys. I lurk this topic constantly to try and improve.

Keep at it. My Black Friday blog went no where the first year or two.

Google likes aged sites so the longer it's around, as long as content is added, it will rank a little higher an higher.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

You don't need to jettison the domain, I think Google webmasters tool will let you kill backlink juice from bad domains if you know where they were posted.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

God I miss the days when I could setup a blog with some greyhat auto blogging software and seed content for a month and just rank #1 instantly

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

laxbro posted:

Maybe I don't know what PR is then. I'm referring to my site being listed 4th or 5th when searching for my keyword which I can see in webmaster tools. A quick wikipedia search tell me that I might be referring to SERP rank and PR is something different?

PageRank is the name of the algorithm that Google uses to gauge how relevant and important a page is. Sites like Microsoft and Wikipedia have a PR of 9 or 10. A page with a higher PR number would, in theory, rank higher in search engines. The problem with page rank is that assigning an actual number to how Google ranks pages gives grey and black hat seo marketers number to target to make go up or down. Getting rid of a number to denote authority yet still valuing those sites highly help Google fight spam.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

snagger posted:

In 5 years I've never gotten anything from Amazon links. I've noticed that my CPC goes up if traffic does. If it's a really high traffic month, my RPM will double. If your site is small that could be a factor. I also started disabling some ad types and forcing everyone on to behaviorally targeted ads, and that goosed my click rate a bit.

This is true, the higher your traffic the better advertisers you will attract.

I've had decent results with Amazon, their 24 hour cookie helps a lot around Christmas.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006


Awesome, I really like the cover too.

Edit: how well has this been selling that there's already 82 used copies :stare:

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Anyone have any experience contacting companies for review products? I need to get a handful of electronics for review, if not then it's time to abuse some store return policies.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Its pretty cheap commodity computer hardware. The problem is the blog is focused on a very specific line of products from single company and I'm going to need some of them to review to get the blog padded out with good content. Because of that I don't have anything really to show the company that I'm not just someone wanting free poo poo.

I'll just pick something up at best buy, it's less than $200 and I can probably use it as a giveaway to drum up some FB likes and follows anyways.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Camo Guitar posted:

Anyone know of a preferably free pop up wordpress plugin that you can configure to say 'Hi you like this stuff, subscribe by putting your email details here etc etc' with the forms in the pop up?

I'm using WP Popups which links up Facebook, Twitter and Google+ via shortcode but I can't figure how to add subscribe forms, just like the ones on the sidebar. Cheers.

P.s Finally reached enough adsense revenue to get a second payout at the end of the month. A big thanks to the poster who suggested ads in the middle. I'm up to $266 now after years of ranting, I'm ballin! :cheers:

I use ITRO popup, it's probably one of the better of the free options. If you're looking for a simple mailing list popup it will do just fine.

https://wordpress.org/plugins/itro-popup/

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Black Friday is here and Christmas is rapidly approaching, anyone got any plans?

I got two new BF blogs I just dreamt up but I have to wait until next year to flesh them out as I'm running out of time.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Here's the annual stats from this year's Black Friday blog. Here is last year's post to compare

For those that don't know or forgot, I have a Black Friday blog that I run that is related to a regional electronics retailer. In fact, I used to work for this retailer many years ago. They had a horrible website, zero marketing and only advertised their black friday deals through the newspaper. I saw an opportunity to take their incompetence and create a website that presented the Black Friday ads in a digital form and break down the listing, prices, and discount from them an their competitors.

I've been running the site in some form or another since 2006 but have really just started pushing it heavily since 2010. I've dropped off most my other blogs since getting a big boy job so this is my main money earner for the year.

All the stats I'm posting are from November 19th to December 1st which is the bulk of the traffic. This year saw a slight decrease and some weird traffic patterns. While my overall traffic was actually higher than last year, a big majority of that was mobile traffic which does horrible for clicks and revenue.

Traffic from Nov. 19th (about a week before Black Friday until the day after Cyber Monday)

(Green is page views, Blue is Uniques and Orange is returning)

I'll explain the weird traffic patterns in a minute

Adsense Revenue:


Skimlinks rev was around $100 and Amazon directly another $100

Notes:
  • My site dropped from top 5 on Google to around 7-8 on rankings. This was a big drop in traffic. However Bing/Yahoo my site consistently ranked #1 or #2 for key search terms. Bing/Yahoo was my largest search engine by a big margin this year. Next year I need to work on my Google Game
  • Cyber Monday was a bigger traffic and revenue day than Black Friday, which was shocking to me.
  • The big traffic jump on Saturday was from Reddit. I posted my blog in the /r/buildapcsales subreddit when some of the ads came out and it was top of the sub for the day. Reddit clicks earn nothing for revenue however, everyone runs ad block.
  • The retailer that I base my blog around continues it's slide into irrelevancy so that also explains the drop in search traffic. I need to diversify
  • I spent a bit of time improving the performance of my site a month prior and as a result I only needed the $20 VPS instead of the $100 VPS for the month.
  • Next year I focus a lot more on trolling slick deals and reposting hot deals from the season.


I'll be happy to answer any questions!

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Camo Guitar posted:

Curious question - has anyone here taken/recycled some of their blog posts and sucessfully transitioned them to a epub book that they sell through Amazon or such?

Obviously this would be for general interest blogging more than targetting a keyword - (something similar to Jeremy Clarksons books: a bunch of his previous newspaper and magazine articles spanning a range of topics). Curious to see if anyone has attempted this and how they went?

Just thinking out loud as I have a lot of previous posts that could be reworked and given a second chance.

I used to follow the a Windows Home Sever blog and they would package all their massive setup guides into ebooks. I think John Saracusa from Ars Technical was doing the same thing for his OSX reviews. No idea how any of these ventures went though.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

KetTarma posted:

One thing I'll say that others can provide their insight on:

I found that any barrier to leaving a comment is likely to prevent most people from commenting. If they can just enter in a name and post, they'll do it. If you ask someone to log in with Facebook, make an account, or anything like that, you may never get any comments.

I'll disagree here because most people won't need to log into Facebook, it's always just logged it. Leaving a comment is as easy and just typing and hitting post. WordPress comments system is a nightmare for spam anyways.

Rocks posted:

Approaching this from a monetization standpoint, what's the consensus on Adsense with adblockers these days? I'm thinking the way to go will be getting a newsletter up and running and getting that sponsored. Again, this is all very far down the road on my lovely blog, but I think it's good to have a plan regardless.

The type of people who run AdBlock werent going to click on your ad anyways, don't worry about it. Always explore more monetization options though, most big money making blogs work on purchase referrals links and sponsored posts.

The bigger threat to ad monetization is the shift to mobile which has already happened. Mobile ads have lower ctr and impression revenue.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

If you're signed up for Google Webmaster tools you can submit a URL change request and they'll process it within a few hours.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

KetTarma posted:

How do you guys capitalize on a post going viral?

I've had 50k hits this month on one article that I wrote a year ago. It has Adsense and Amazon affiliate links so I'm making money off of it... but I'm getting very, very few clicks to other articles or other links.

Here's the article in question:

http://www.sciencebadger.com/do-himalayan-salt-lamps-work/

I have a few other articles that have had a few thousand lifetime hits; however, most of the 50+ articles I have written are sitting at a hundred or so total lifetime hits. I'm using multiple forms of "You should also look at this" on my site ... I don't know what else to do!

I would go through the article and find any keywords that might be relevant to other articles you've written and link to those.

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FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I ran a website where I bashed a company's product and then the company bought out my blog for thousands to dollars to remove the negative search rankings. Then the FTC shut the company down so I just relaunched it anyways so I say go for it!

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