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FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Am I the only one avoiding watching the episode until the second part is released? I'm bad at cliffhangers. :ohdear:

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FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Gutcruncher posted:

Back when the show was mostly interviews and stuff with Arinos Challenge as a small segment, it was called Game Center [CX]. After one season they realized that the challenges were the best part and made it the main focus of the show, rebranding it as Game Center CX.

In the first CX episode, Arino says that some poor staff member had to go to all of his uniforms and painstakingly remove the [ ]s.

And for several seasons, the opening credits still read 'Game Center 「CX」', only to have the Japanese bracket things fly off in an animation. I don't know what season they finally ditched them entirely.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Gutcruncher posted:

Tajiri really makes some great faces.




Is it just me, or has he not aged well? I mean, here he kind of looks like a Japanese Wil Wheaton, but now...



EDIT: and it's not just the glasses:

FredMSloniker fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Sep 8, 2012

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

zari-gani posted:

That's Tsunekazu Ishihara, CEO of the Pokemon Company.
ETA: Beaten by seconds...!

ETA2: Here's the most recent picture of Tajiri I could find, from 2011.



Well, someone should tell this Pokemon wiki, then. I did wonder if I'd gotten the wrong photo, but... ah well!

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Something I've noticed in a number of the most recent episodes is nasty interlacing. Unfortunately, it looks like the video has been resized at some point, which means the interlacing can't be removed. Is this a problem up the pipe from the translating team?

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

TapamN posted:

Be thankful that Arino will never challenge the arcade Battletoads game.



I'm amused that the closeups on their faces were clearly photoshopped out of the full-body shots. Draw one than more picture? That would require effort. :v:

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Obeast posted:

It's too bad the JP version didn't have multiplayer, because it would've been amazing if they did that for the end

Given that it took him 13 hours just to clear the game, I imagine they weren't terribly interested in sticking around for some multiplayer. :v:

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Cemetry Gator posted:

Hey man, commas are important. It's the difference between "Let's eat grandma," and "let's, eat grandma!"

:goonsay: I think you meant "let's eat, grandma".

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Random Stranger posted:



In the unlicensed portions of episode six Arino has a book signing, gets his trademark squid, and meets a comic creator.

Some folks find it painful to watch Arino fail at a game over and over and over again. Me? I find it painful to watch Arino put money into a game that isn't working over and over and over again. Call an attendant! Gripe about the start button being broken! Don't feed eight coins into it in hopes that'll magically solve the problem! :doh:

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Just for reference, DVDs can do overlays. I have a copy of 'Ghostbusters' on DVD that has a director's commentary mode with MST3K-style heads of the people commenting. I don't know the technical details, though, except that the subtitles are image overlays instead of text. (In AVISynth, you'd overlay them with VobSub instead of TextSub.)

Not that I expect this to diminish my enjoyment of the DVDs when I get them! (My shipment was slightly delayed because they tried to pull the money out of my account a day before it was actually there.)

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
An issue I've noticed with the subtitles, aside from the 'a little italics italicizes the whole line' issue, is that on widescreen episodes, the subtitles are stretched horizontally. It's an easy mistake to make, I think: the video's encoded at 720x480 and then resized either to 640x480 or to 853x480 depending on the desired aspect ratio. So the people making the subtitles probably didn't realize they needed to make the font skinnier or something for the widescreen episodes. Compare these two screenshots:





There's also a problem with the pixelated font used for some subtitles; it's not properly sized to avoid clunky pixel sizes. For example:



Note the weird proportions of the letters. I don't know if this is because a poorly-formatted graphic overlay is being used or because text subtitling didn't use the right point size; if the latter, folks doing hardsubbing probably want to point-resize the video up to 4x or something, add the subtitles, then bilinear-resize it back down. And presumably people are hardsubbing for their own use and not to hand out to a bunch of people instead of having them buy the DVDs, riiiiight? :v:

I encourage everyone who wants this to buy it, and it is worth buying—but if our demand gets a volume 2 put out, hopefully these issues will be addressed!

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
As I work on my own hardsubbing project, I note two more pieces of info about the DVD:
  • The subtitles are graphic overlays, so there's no way to fix proportions or the italics issue. It's annoying that they didn't permit the GCCXSA team to set up overlays. EDIT: If you prefer the wider subtitles, you could pad the video on the sides, apply the subtitles, then cut off the padding. If my math is right, adding 120 pixels on each side (for a 960x480 image) would do the trick. Similarly, if you prefer the narrower subtitles, crop the video to 540x480, apply the subtitles, then overlay the result in the center of the original frame. Fair warning: this will affect the placement of any non-centered subtitles.
  • There's the interlacing issue that comes of taking a movie standard ~24 FPS and converting it to NTSC ~30 FPS. It's fixable, but it's an extra step if that sort of thing bothers you. Since DVDs do support ~24 FPS, this is mainly annoying because the space consumed by the interlaced frames could have been used to improve the quality of the image.
Again, these issues don't make me regret buying the DVD, but they're things I hope will be fixed for a second volume!

FredMSloniker fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Oct 5, 2012

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Given the little issues with the subtitles on the DVD, I'm considering making new, text-style subtitles for my personal copy. What fonts do you use for the GCCXSA releases? I'd like to be able to seamlessly integrate the non-challenge scenes, so I want to be able to match it up.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
I just finished watching the Mighty Bomb Jack episode on the DVDs, and I find it interesting that they either didn't know or didn't dare say in front of a crowd of hundreds that Arino didn't get the best ending, which requires collecting very specific powerups in obscure locations of specific levels. This Youtube video points out what I mean (warning: Massive spoilers if you haven't seen the end of the live Mighty Bomb Jack challenge!)

Mind you, I'm glad things went the way they did. He had enough of a hard time clearing the game without having to fulfill those requirements, and to call him out on it only at the end would be cruel.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
I'm watching the Wing of Madoola episode right now, and... stage 12. Just... stage 12. I've felt that pain. Not with that game, but with another game from my youth. You slip off a ledge, but it's not a big ledge, you can jump up from the one below--only you're still pushing to try to avoid falling off the ledge, so you slip off the next one down. So you push the other way and slip off the one after that. And down and down you go, erasing all your hard work in a spasm of reflexes lagging behind the action.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
I know Shiren the Wanderer has gotten some bad press as far as an episode goes, and the first bit of the episode (where I was saying 'they're seriously making him play a Roguelike?') was cringe-inducing. But two things, maybe three, saved the episode for me. One is that Shiren isn't a hardcore Roguelike; sure it's hard, but it is possible to carry things through after death, so it's possible for Arino to get a bit farther each time, as is his talent. The other is Emoto. The moment when Arino is expecting Emoto to scream at him, only to be given nothing but kindness, coupled with the beautiful music... well, it makes me want to cry happily, just a little.

(The third thing is: has the footage been expanded at all from its original form for the DVD? I never saw the original.)

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

zari-gani posted:

I have those files, and indeed it came censored like that. The Star of David is still plastered all over the floors in Ninja Gaiden though.

Where did it appear pre-censoring? Was it just listed as one of the powerups, or...?

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

zari-gani posted:

ETA: vvv The game's opening screen. It's blurred out.

Ah! I didn't notice because the subtitles cover it. Interesting.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Random Stranger posted:

(And to head off the comments; yes, we know what it's called in the comic and show. That's actually an error in the original game.)

Well, as someone unfamiliar with the comic or the show: what did the game screw up?

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

orochi posted:

They could probably get someone to mod them a video out for the virtual boy.

They seem averse to modding in general. I mean, they've gone how many seasons recording composite video off ancient Famicoms? I'm sure at least three people in this thread would hook them up with some gadget that plays original cartridges and outputs crisp digital video, and one of them would do it for free. But it's probably part of the show's legal wrangling that they don't even get close to that sort of thing.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Corridor posted:

Is this not how you are supposed to say cubicle?

Maybe the issue was that he was putting the accent on the wrong syllable? I'd pronounce the word "CUbicle", but it sounds like his friend said "cuBIcle".

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Something I noticed watching the episode is that they used the color blue for the 'loss' and red for the 'win' in Arino's stats. This is a Japanese convention I've seen before, in Pokemon (showing stats being lowered or raised, respectively, by a pokemon's nature), and in both cases I was momentarily confused. Just a little moment of :japan:.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

FireCar posted:

(I don't mean to sound creepy, but I associate people with their avatars.)

*raises finger, opens mouth*

*pauses*

*lowers finger, closes mouth, walks away*

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

zari-gani posted:

Jazaaboo: "Hello from America! http://thespeedgamers.com/oild-rally-kings-snow-mountain"
Arino: "Oh! America! Careful not to put your controller in your hamburger and eat it!"

Okay, this is pretty awesome:



And is this your art, zari-gani? Comments he made on the page suggest yes.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
In case anyone else is going 'wait, how do you play this?': after you click 'insert coin', use left arrow to advance and right arrow to retreat.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Watching the New Year's 'Special', I'm curious: why does the sound quality go to hell in the last couple minutes? Anyone know?

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
They mention in the Ninja Spirit episode that there have been previous instances where Arino's commented that he can go home before lunch. Does anyone know which episodes he's said something to that effect? I know Bonanza Bros. had him say that, and I think he said he could go home early in Quest of Ki...

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Is anyone else having recurring video glitches in the Retro Game Challenge episode, or is it just me?

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Hit or miss Clitoris posted:

I kinda want to see him play Superman 64 now that I think about it. That game would be soul crushing to try to play through and beat.

Well, if any game has 'unique gameplay'...

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

zari-gani posted:

That was hands down the best DVD challenge ever.

Refresh my memory: which challenge was that?

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Random Stranger posted:

So I was looking around for some videos they put on the mobile site and I found this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-ttyDNJ-qU

I'm not really sure what to make of it...

I figured someone would want it, so...



I had to crop out his name because otherwise it was eeeever so slightly over the height limit, and the 'pon koron' overlapped another character so I took that out too.

And while I'm at it, the various AD screens:


(Who's mister 'forever alone' in the lower left?)


(This is Inoue, right? Talking about him 'leveling up' to director?)


(Ah, treating Watanabe as classy as ever.)

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

TechnoSyndrome posted:

The DVDs do get cluttered when there's multiple subtitles on screen correlating to multiple text boxes. It is a limitation of DVD subtitles

I expressed confusion on this point myself, so I'll just point out that it is possible to do overlays in DVD subtitles. They're just images overlaid on the video. The palette is rather limited--I think you can have only three colors plus transparency per image, though I could be wrong on that point--but if you wanted to black out an area of the screen and put text on it, it'd be doable. I think zari-gani got told she couldn't do that sort of thing because someone at Discotek couldn't be arsed; that may also explain the whole 'one letter of italics turns the whole thing italic' and 'font is fatter on widescreen eps than 4:3 eps' issues. (To explain the latter: NTSC DVDs store images at 720x480 and either squash them to 640x480 (4:3) or stretch them to 853x480 (16.9). So if you don't make the font wider on the former and narrower on the latter to compensate, the difference is readily noticeable.)

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Something the episode reminded me of is the show's tendency to announce that Arino's beaten the final boss (with appropriate fanfare) and is now going to see the ending, only wait there's a true final boss. Sometimes they do it more than once. Does anyone know which episode (or episodes) holds the record for most 'no, really, we swear this is the final boss' moments? I know they've gotten a bit silly with the TRUE FINAL REAL ULTIMATE LAST BOSS stuff...

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
I'm beginning to suspect that the staff is trolling Arino. First they cut him off right as he was about to do his favorite part of Ocarina of Time, then skipped over it while he was gone. Then they make him grovel through the transcripts of Mega Man IV to find the correct boss order. Now they make him play a bit of Tower of Babel right after Mega Man IV, then force him to wait a month before continuing, not only screwing up his memory of the game but denying him enough time to finish it. Stop taking away his fun, you guys! :argh:

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
I found it amusing/confusing that in the Shiren the Wanderer challenge bits, there's a bit of a disconnect between what they say and what they actually show on screen:



Either they used the wrong image, or they're saying something about how old Arino really is... :v:

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

kirbysuperstar posted:

Also Shere Khan was a boss for some reason.

The Jungle Book version, or his urbane Talespin re-imagining?

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
At this point, I'm increasingly in favor of the OP locking the thread until there's an actual new release.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Katana Gomai posted:

Why did you specify "for Japan"?

Because when Americans make it, it's called porn? :v:

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

joek0 posted:

Thpoilerth!

It would have been helpful to say that your spoiler was related to the results of the Magical Quest episode. :sweatdrop:

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FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

gunstarheroes posted:

And, actually the only time I've been shocked...
1. Everything I Learned From Strategy Guides

I dunno as if I'd have voted that the worst segment, but it had some seriously wasted potential. Rather than just take some random line from some random strategy guide, it would have been more interesting, I think, if they'd chosen something that could be more sensibly be said to apply to life as well. Like, some RPG guide says you should be at least level 23 to fight a boss, you could talk about how if something's too difficult to accomplish now, you should go and get more experience, prepare yourself for the task. I mean, when at least one Arino's comment at the end is 'that doesn't relate at all to the strategy guide!', I think something's gone wrong.

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